92 thoughts on “Women’s Rugby: The Petition

    • Have you ever been to an international women’s rugby game? They are astounding world-class athletes, so your patronising response is pretty pathetic.

      • The fact that “World-class” seems to be the point this petition is making. These women aren’t asking for more money, just a bit of respect and organisational recognition. If they’re good enough to put on the green jersey then that’s the least they deserve.

      • I have been to a couple of their games and they really aren’t world class athletes. I know one of the girls on the team and she made her international debut about one year after taking up rugby. She is talented but I think it just proves that standard isn’t that high. Being ranked 7th in the world in women’s rugby is meaningless. It’s like saying County Clare are ranked 7th in the world for hurling.

        • Yeah, it’s a puzzling disgrace why that they aren’t world class given the vast amount of money and resources poured into training them and encouraging them from a young age and all the support they receive from rugby-lovers everywhere cheering them on all the time and nah, you know what, never mind.

        • Theres no way Clare are ranked 7th in the world in Hurling. No way. Maybe 11th. at best.

        • The number of players is irrelevant, if the IRFU consider women’s rugby to be worth an official international team, then they need to stand behind that team fully. They already give the women’s team with lots of funding, and now need to back this up with organisational support.

          Amateur sports have never been about receiving undeserved recognition, just about the pride in representing your club, county or country. There’s plenty of sports that Irish people have gotten behind despite the scarcity of players or competition because they know that the effort of those playing deserves respect.

  1. I don’t think it’s a nice thing to see ladies bashing each other. If I wanted to see that I’d just go to town at the weekend and watch the scroats tearing each other up.

    • The ladies team flew to paris last friday for their game on the Sat. Were booked on a train ( to the south of france ) to Pau where the game was which they missed because of pairsian traffic, they then had to get an alternate and later overnight train to the south of france ( which for most is uncomforatable and basic – and for athletes is absolutely terrible ) resutling in a basic 4 hours ( at best ) sleep for most the night before a game. These ladies are amateur and are very good at what they do, give up their own time and operate on a miniscule fraction of the budget that even an AIL mens team would operate under. They represent Ireland for gods sake. fly them to the south of france. Fly. not a 18 train trip. Fly. that is all.

      • @punt printer.
        I think you mean ‘alternative’ instead of ‘alternate’ (every second one). Sorry, pet peeve.

  2. I thought this was a petition to ban this barbarity, now thats something I would sign.

  3. This isn’t just about Womens Rugby though – damn near *every* sport that isn’t one of the Big Five gets this kind of treatment from one aspect of Irish sports administration or the media. The Irish Olympic Clay Pigeon shooters have won the World Championships in the team event and won silver in the individual; the media doesn’t want to know (but at least they have their NGB’s support and some limited support from the Sports Council). The Irish Olympic Rifle and Pistol shooters are over in Finland right now competing for the last quota places to the London Games; their NGB isn’t even officially recognised by the Sports Council despite having worked with them for years, and the shooters themselves get not one penny from the Sports Council. Every other so-called minority sport is in the same place (and I say “so-called” because outside of Ireland, these are major sports with huge backing and following – target shooting is one of the three or four largest sports in the world once you leave our shores behind, and sports like archery, judo, canoeing and so on, aren’t far behind — whereas our “big” sports like GAA barely even exist outside of our shores).

    Perhaps its time that we fixed that…

    • Why should the media write about sports that hardly anybody is interested in? If you bring the crowds then you get the money and attention, it’s as simple as that.

      • Well if you had ever been to a Women’s game before then you would know that they do in fact draw crowds. The last Irish home match in Ashbourne Co. Meath attracted at least 2000 supporters with each person paying €10 to get in. When Ireland played France last weekend there were 11000 supports there. If the IRFU moved the Women’s home games to a more central venue in Dublin they would surely attract larger numbers and with that increase revenue for the IRFU

        • Some people on here seem t think that they sound like a load of silly feckin eejits who like running around in muck wearing men’s clothes. I respect them. But they are earning too much money. I’m not paying the ten euros.

      • untrue. Horse Racing gets 7% of mainstream media sports coverage, in some newspapers it gets upto 33%. However fewer than 1% of the population attends horse racing events.

        Media reports in sport as it does in news, to the agenda they are given. Did you read about the Arsenal fans rioting in Milan yesterday? No. Why? because the agenda is set otherwise.

        • So where are the men ranked in the world?? 8th so why shouldnt the womens team get a little bit more respect. I’ve seen these girls train 5-6 times a week as well as their club trainings and club games etc. As well as hold down a full time job… They arent asking for a lot just a little bit of support.

    • Traget shooting as an organised, competitive sport is definitely not one of the three or four largest sports in the world – not by spectators, not by money and not by participants.

      Provide a reference for that ridiculous statistic.

      • By number of participants (as opposed to folk who sit on couches watching and drinking a beer or who stand and yell in stadiums), target shooting is one of the top sports in the world. Soccer may have more fans, Formula one may have more TV viewers, but in terms of how many people actually partake in the shooting sports, Sport participation studies done by various groups in the US (sports equipment sellers, governing bodies and so on) all put the participation rate at around 35 million people per year there (that’s actively taking part, not spectating). Other places have similar figures – it’s the national sport in Switzerland, it’s in the top three in Germany and Italy. In the UK it’s over a million people – more than hockey or cricket.

        Just because we don’t do it here so much doesn’t mean that’s the norm…

        • The point stands. How many more participants does it have than football, cricket, volleyball, fishing, swimming etc.?

    • Yes, well when there’s a petition about something else, let’s talk about that then.

      Right now, we’re talking about the Ireland women’s rugby squad.

  4. Sorry Ladies. I can hardly give ye any more attention or status than I do the men’s game.
    You mind find a better home for your skills in football.

  5. Regardless of your opinion on Women’s Rugby the issue at the core of this is inequality. You may not believe or have time for women’s rugby but if you understood what these girls give to represent their country I believe you would have a completely different attitude. These girls are athletes who hold down full-time jobs/study and training on a daily basis. As such why then should they be treated in a less favourable fashion when compared to their male counterparts? It is time the IRFU woke up and gave these girls the respect they have worked so hard for yet obviously do not receive.

    • They get the attention and financial backing they deserve. Do they get treated better or worse than the AIL player who plays to similar crowds, trains every day and holds down a full time job?

      • Actually they do get treated worse than AIL players. AIL players get paid every time they play for their respective club while the players on the Irish Women’s do not. I’m not saying they should be paid but they should receive some respect and financial backing towards developing the team as a whole. Despite the lack of funding in recent years the Women’s team has done incredibly well so one has to wonder what they could achieve should they actually be afforded the opportunity!!

        • AIL players get paid??????Eh some do. Very few. On average 3/4 per team per match. In a lot of clubs nobody gets paid at all.

          • They get paid.. whether its a match fee, win bonus fees, sign on fees, free accomodation or jobs they are getting paid. why do you think there is sooo much movement in clubs it aint for nothing else but money. i know of u20 club players getting paid. I have a number of friends playing AIL and getting paid.

    • +1

      Agree it’s not about a level of interest in any particular sport – it’s about equality, opportunity, the honour of representing your country and the respect that deserves. Thank you to all the ladies who give up their time to represent us in rugby and in all sports – and thanks to all the men too. I love supporting Ireland in all sports and hope that equality arrives in all arenas. The sooner the better IMHO

      • If you’ve got a problem with women who don’t shave, then just don’t pay the ten euros, itsyour lossthough, some of the girls are VERY strong looking.

    • Treatment of sports stars is not based on some notion of ‘equality’. The men are treated based on public interest and TV money. Footballers are paid more than rugby players, not because their commitment is greater, but because the competition is stiffer and following is greater.

      • That is true equality. Giving somebody special treatment just because they are female is….sexist.

        • We are not asking that they get special treatment on the basis that they are female, we are just asking that they be treated with a bit of respect. If is incredibly unfair that ANY International team has to travel 27 hours and play a match on just 3 hours sleeps regardless of their sex!!

      • Ok, I can see how I might be perceived as over-sensitive but they are women, playing a professional sport., and deserve the attendant respect. In any case it’s a misnomer.
        Boy’s Rugby? Don’t hear it that often unless it’s schools.

    • Given our male sporting teams are often referred to the ‘boys’ in green etc I think you’re being a little sensitive.

  6. Petitions are a waste of time. If they really want to make a point, they should strike, similar to the Cork Hurlers a few years ago.

  7. How ridiculous can they get? They are not “world class” athletes… and to treat it equally to the mens game would be Political Correctness gone mad

  8. I think some of ye would want to shut the puck up.

    Equality Respect World Rankings MY HOLE

    the most successful Irish Athlete (to date) on the scene today has yet to receive any National Sports Person award. The Paddies will vote for a horse first before Katie Taylor.

    I didn’t note any of the indignation above noting Katie or her chosen sport.
    Stick to spelling mistakes.

  9. If a sport is popular the media will cover it. Media coverage doesnt, and shouldnt, come down to the perceived “effort” of its participants. This may be slightly unfair but thats the way the capitalist system works, baby.

    Perhaps they could always go the route of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcSEE7TuGU if they want more media interest!

  10. If you’ve got a problem with women who don’t shave, then just don’t pay the ten euros, its your loss though, some of the girls are VERY strong looking, regardless of how expensive it is to view them.

  11. Sign the petition if you have an interest in Women’s Rugby in Ireland. If you don’t, don’t.

  12. While we’re not speaking of it, womens tennis players getting same prize money as the mens, are you having a laugh?

    • Sarah,
      Of course women can be stevedores, especially as nowadays the job is more technical than manual.

      You allege that our women rugby players don’t shave.
      Why do you say this? Got any pics to prove it ;)

  13. As an 11 / 12 year old boy, I used to love climbing the tree at the end of the garden which looked out on to the hockey pitch of Taylor’s Hill school…. :)

    I’ve never had a problem with women’s sport!

    And don’t give me any shite about being a perv… I’ve never sat through a soccer match in the presence of a woman without her commenting on the looks, physique and overall sexiness of a number of a few players by the games end.

  14. @ T I play for an AIL club. I don’t get paid a bean. In fact I even look after me own physio, gym, supplements, car/fuel etc….same for all the lads on our team bar one. He’s an exceptional player, coaches young fellas and is employed by the club. There are very, very few AIL players getting payment these days. If there are these players are getting paid for other activities or extra responsibility within the club. They pay tax, PRSI etc…

  15. Some of you have totally missed the point. Its about asking the IRFU to give some respect to the players chosen by them to represent Ireland on an international level.

    Whether you’re a fan of women’s rugby or not, surely most can agree that anyone who pulls on the green jersey deserves at least a basic level of organization and support.