14 thoughts on “Are Government Ministers Really Exempt From The Household Charge?”
badly worded, doesn’t mean their own house. It means care homes etc that are legally owned by the Minister of the parent Department.
Now Paudie don’t go explaining it to people. You know they’ll want to go bat-shit crazy over this and you’re explanations will hinder the general hysteria that’s about to kick off.
Anyone know if this has been clarified?
And badly worded. As is the wording of Sean Sherlock’s SOPA shenanigans.
Are they not being paid enough to do a proper job of their responsibilities or just not bothered?
Or yet again, imbeciles steering the ship of state?
Self serving illiterate overpaid imbeciles who really aren’t bothered scuppering the ship of state just about covers it.
Did you intend “aren’t bothered scuppering the ship of stete” which means “can’t be arsed doing it”, or “aren’t bothered about scuppering the ship of state” which means “have done it and don’t care”?
Phrasing things correctly is hard, isn’t it? Good job we’re all humble about accusing people of illiteracy.
refers to state property as owned by the minister when we would understand it as owned by the department….
if any lawyer is knocking around here while billing clients 500 an hour maybe they can clarify…
Get a grip.
Read the legislation.
Brian Cowen never read the treaties we’re signed up to…. just sayin’
“Residential property owned by a Minister of the Government” is exempt.
What is badly worded about that (unless you jump to some conclusion that those words mean something other than their meaning)?
I think they mean Embassy gaffs, Ambassador digs, the Áras, Dublin Castle apartments, grace and favour lodgings etc
Well, if it doesn’t SAY that, then that’s not what it means.
Buddy, linguists have built careers on discussing that.
Exemption wording in the act is as follows’ note the word vested ie under the control of his Dept
A building vested in a Minister of the Government, a housing authority (within the meaning of the Act of 1992) or the Health Service Executive;
badly worded, doesn’t mean their own house. It means care homes etc that are legally owned by the Minister of the parent Department.
Now Paudie don’t go explaining it to people. You know they’ll want to go bat-shit crazy over this and you’re explanations will hinder the general hysteria that’s about to kick off.
Anyone know if this has been clarified?
And badly worded. As is the wording of Sean Sherlock’s SOPA shenanigans.
Are they not being paid enough to do a proper job of their responsibilities or just not bothered?
Or yet again, imbeciles steering the ship of state?
Self serving illiterate overpaid imbeciles who really aren’t bothered scuppering the ship of state just about covers it.
Did you intend “aren’t bothered scuppering the ship of stete” which means “can’t be arsed doing it”, or “aren’t bothered about scuppering the ship of state” which means “have done it and don’t care”?
Phrasing things correctly is hard, isn’t it? Good job we’re all humble about accusing people of illiteracy.
“Stete” ne stet.
in fairness a quick google seems to sort out this
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2011/en/act/pub/0010/sec0016.html
refers to state property as owned by the minister when we would understand it as owned by the department….
if any lawyer is knocking around here while billing clients 500 an hour maybe they can clarify…
Get a grip.
Read the legislation.
Brian Cowen never read the treaties we’re signed up to…. just sayin’
“Residential property owned by a Minister of the Government” is exempt.
What is badly worded about that (unless you jump to some conclusion that those words mean something other than their meaning)?
I think they mean Embassy gaffs, Ambassador digs, the Áras, Dublin Castle apartments, grace and favour lodgings etc
Well, if it doesn’t SAY that, then that’s not what it means.
Buddy, linguists have built careers on discussing that.
Exemption wording in the act is as follows’ note the word vested ie under the control of his Dept
A building vested in a Minister of the Government, a housing authority (within the meaning of the Act of 1992) or the Health Service Executive;