Before This Can Happen

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Money must be raised.

So.

Tomorrow night.

From the Campaign for Choice:

A whole host of fantastic Irish comedians [including Broadsheet ‘Ricksmith John Moynes] will be raising the roof in the Sugar Club [Leeson Street, Dublin] Saturday 15th September. €10 at the door, with ALL proceeds going to producing flyers, posters and banners for the March for Choice.

 

Awesome Comedy Fundraiser (Facebook)

 

 

45 thoughts on “Before This Can Happen

  1. James Murran

    Pity the poor unborn doen’t get a “choice”. Abortion-on-demand (which this group are campaigning for) leads to a nasty mix of racism and eugenics – like in America where being an unborn black kid particularly dangerous. Of course Green Party supporters think this is wonderful since every unborn kid saves a countless number of trees… (not to mention lower crime rates)

    1. Kieran

      Oh no! We’ve been rumbled! All those logical arguments we’ve been making for years… It was just a ruse! We admit it! Abortion really turns us on. Abortion and trees! Mmmmmm.

      Grow up.

      1. James Murran

        Professional cranks such as yourselves (and your fellow gay lobby activists) need to learn that this is a predominantly Catholic country (84% last time I checked) with values where the right to life is sacrosanct. Going against the grain of nature only leads to misery and unhappiness. These so-called ethicists who are pulling the strings of dissent amongst a fashionable “liberal” element in society are far abstracted away from the reality of unexpected pregnancy. No doubt Ivana Bacik et al. will be there to blow the trumpet and stand up for the rights of a subsection of females (i.e. those women who are fortunate enoughtto have been born in a country where abortion is illegal).

          1. James Murran

            @Lee:

            Cardinals don’t run the state (well observed). They do however give guidance to Catholics on matters of faith and morals. Abortion is obviously one such issue. I don’t necessarily agree that professional vote-getters are best placed to be legislating on the complex issue of abortion. They need external advice. Thankfully those within the FG government are predominantly Catholic. Frances Fitzgerald, Minister for Children is Catholic. This expert group will report in October and that will be one sure way of separating those in power who believe in Final Judgement and those who don’t.

        1. Lee

          I think the external advice should come from those in the medical profession and not from a group of old men who have taken a vow that means that this issue will never directly affect them.

          I wouldn’t ask them how to run our schools either, and I don’t know why we ever did.

        2. Naggle

          (i.e. those women who are fortunate enoughtto have been born in a country where abortion is illegal).

          What kind of sense does that make??!!

          You do realise that abortion is not compulsory in said countries right? And as a rule countries where it is legal tend to have better childcare and welfare standards.

    2. Mani

      I love the ‘abortion on demand’ phrase that pro-lifers are so fond of using. It’s a great language choice, evoking a facility of use equitable to netflix or dominos. Everyone is entitled to have a choice. Why the fcuk James, a man, feels like he has the right to opinion in this issue is beyond me. If there was a referendum on forced sterilisation on men over 40 in order to restrict population growth would he be happy with women having equal or more say in that matter?

      1. Fergd

        “Why the fcuk James, a man, feels like he has the right to opinion in this issue is beyond me.”
        Nice.
        James may be talking out his backside, but you’re not far behind.
        Everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you like it or not.
        Every time this topic comes up it quickly becomes apparent that zealots on both sides are as bad as each other.

        1. James Murran

          Thank you. I’m fully aware that this site is so liberal that it makes The Guardian look like the bulletin of the Prayer Book Society. It’s the poor men whose girlfriends go off on a “weekend to London” I feel sorry for. They’re then expected to help pick up the pieces when post-abortion counselling kicks in.

        2. Blobster

          +1 Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion on anything, abortion included, regardless of how crazy or not they may seem. The idea that men are not entitled to an opion because they don’t bear children is utterly ridiculous and juvenile.

          1. well

            Exactly, if a man ever gets pregnant he should also be allowed the choice to continue carrying or terminating the pregnancy.

    3. Bangalore

      You are a crazy person who makes pro life look crazy. You don’t realise it, but you’re making pro – life look better

  2. nomnom

    James Murran kicks off the evening with his own quirky (insane) performance of “kill kids – keep trees”.

    1. James Murran

      That’s essentially what these “ethicists”, who sit in their ivory towers, reason over all day. Totally separated from humanity so they are.

  3. James Murran

    Pity the poor unborn don’t get a “choice”. Abortion-on-demand (which is what this group are campaigning for) leads to a nasty mix of racism, environmentalism and eugenics – like in America where being an unborn black kid particularly dangerous. Of course Green Party supporters think this is wonderful since every unborn kid saves a countless number of trees… (not to mention lower crime rates)

    1. munkifisht

      The worst thing is James, they grind up the foetus’s to use as fertiliser for the new trees. I have heard that sinister members of the Green Party are planning to go out and commit rape to try and increase the number of abortions and to try and regrow the national forests. I’m with you my friend… this bunch of loons don’t see the truth like you and I do.

      Bloody women (and I use that term loosely, as you well know, the vast majority of women in this hedonistic country are just harlots) are just going to be going out and havign the filthy filthy sex so they can pop down to their Tescos to have a cut price abortion any time they like, even when the kid’s 9 years old and starting into third class. We need to get the pope back in here to sort this place out.

      1. lou

        It had better be legitimate rape though, or else women’s murdering bodies will reject the poor unborn babby. WHERE WILL THE TREES BE THEN?

  4. Lee

    @James Murran – Why is it a bad thing that the group are campaigning for abortion on demand?

    Think about how hard it is to legislate on this matter, to me it makes sense to have a ‘yay or nay’ type referendum.

    If we had a ‘yay in the case of…’ (e.g. rape, suicidal thoughts, baby will not be compatible with life) type referendum, then the Pro-Life campaigners would claim three things: That Irish women would claim to have been raped to have an abortion on Irish soil, that Irish women would lie about having suicidal thoughts, and that Irish women would “decide for themselves” and abort babies with mild disabilities and so on. I don’t think Irish women would do any of these things, but from reading the literature and website of some Irish Pro-life organisations it is clear that this is the kind of thing they would be filling the press and billboards for leading up to any sort of referendum.
    I think that shows how much faith they have in Irish women.Your comment “Abortion-on-demand (which this group are campaigning for) leads to a nasty mix of racism and eugenics” shows that you also have a lot of faith in Irish women. Cheers, I feel blessed by your kind thoughts.

    Also, as organisations such as Youth Defence are funded in a large part by Americans, they have an “American” take on things, in that if abortion was legal in Ireland we’d have late-term abortions up to an alarmingly high number of weeks. Show me an Irish pro-choice site/group that is looking for that please. In the UK (who we are much closer to in culture and laws), you can get an abortion up to 24 weeks in certain circumstances – but that also doesn’t mean that Irish legislation would have to match that.

    Also, the FB link on the poster leads you to a page called “Unlike Youth Defence, I trust women to decide their lives for themselves” and if you have a read around they don’t mention abortion on demand anywhere! Good research brah.

    Pro-choice groups want women to have a choice when it comes to their bodies when they are in a crisis pregnancy situation. Pro-life people want to force women to go ahead with that pregnancy no matter what the outcome might be for the mother, family or child.

    1. Elvira

      Wouldn’t it be nice if there were some way every mentally competent adult could have complete autonomy over their own body, without interference from people who think they know better!
      And come on, the pro-lifers don’t have faith in us Irish women, sure we should be at home with the ten kids anyway, I’m amazed we’re let out to work in this country. Lucky us.
      Don’t worry, they don’t believe in evolution & survival of the fittest either, which will take care of their type in the long run. It just won’t come quick enough for mna na hEireann.

    1. Matthew

      Why should a website that primarily posts pictures of people using iPads as cameras for the lulz have to be impartial? Shitstorms are good for the page hits ;)

    2. Lan

      Why? Nearly all papers and media have opinion pieces. Why can’t Broadsheet support and promote whatever they want?

  5. no accountant but

    Coming from a country where abortion is legal, I do still not know anyone who has had one or who thinks it would be an easy thing to do. Women have a lot more sense than the pro-life brigade gives them credit for.
    Anyway, do not have time for the gig but will drop by and give the tenner towards the posters. Would love the pro-choice people to get some notice.

  6. Operatick

    Looks like James Murran nipped off for a power nap so he could be all bright eyed and bushy tailed for the Late Late.

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