33 thoughts on “The Trees Of Lennox Street: The Movie

  1. Yea, Ok

    Was it not made clear in the last thread that they are causing structural damage to basements on the road? Granted, it’s a real shame to lose the trees but surely it’s warranted?

    1. IDB

      Seems a little bit drastic to me.
      Granted, I don’t know anything about structural engineering, but have they explored all available options or just jumped straight to “Cut them all down. Next?”

  2. Ride This Pony

    I don’t get what the big deal is, I used to live near Lennox street, it’s just a few trees that will get cut down and replaced.

    I don’t believe someone bought a house on Lennox street because of the trees, FFS.

    I bet DCC wont engage with residents in the future if this is the shit they have to deal with.

    RideMe

  3. Mrs Stapleton

    I bet the Lennox Street residents would be keen for Dublin City Council to do something when the roots start to creep through their basement walls and into the sewers.

    1. dpd

      if that was the case – then the council would have to cut down every single tree in the city. there are no issues with roots

      1. Mick Flavin

        You’ve obviously never had the pleasure of going arse over tit because of roots breaking through tarmac…

        1. mm

          The trees have been there for decades and there has been no structural damage, there are no issues with roots.

  4. KeithFahey’s Moustache

    Victory for keeping the trees, than in a year’s time Broadsheet will be supporting the residents against the cruel and evil council who will not help them as the trees are damaging our houses Joe.

      1. Eliot Rosewater

        What’s the alternative, though, if the roots do pose a threat to the structure of the houses on the street?

          1. Androidious

            Dublin city council dont give two shits about structural Damage they , just want everywhere to be as low maintanace as possible so they can do even less to improve the city as theyre already doing , some shower they are !!

          2. Ride This Pony

            How can you be so sure DPD, has every basement been checked?

            Are you a resident on Lennox Street?

            RideMe

  5. M

    If the trees are causing structural damage, could they not take them down and replace them every forty years?

    One of my favourite parts of Dublin, really would be a needless shame to see them go

  6. leafy

    All it takes is one person on the street to complain about trees for the Council to (eventually) come and cut them down. It may have just been one crank who was sick of sweeping up leaves and told the council his basement was getting damaged.

  7. Odockatee

    Looks like the council is barking up the wrong residents, the cracks in their motives are clear to be seen, money is at the root of this evil. Why dont they leaf them alone. They should get the special branch to investigate.

    And I’m spent

  8. Jockstrap

    No! No!

    I want to cycle down that street every few months or so on my Dutch bicycle and enjoy the trees.

    I don’t to hear any logical argument as to why they need to be felled.

    Na na na na, can’t hear, can’t hear. Ding. Ding.

  9. Bobtastic

    The trees will get cut down, their roots can get as wide as their branches, underground.
    Just make sure they have a replacement plan. DCC said they would replace them on our street, then didn’t for 2 years and when they did did it on the cheap and made a balls of it.

  10. THEWORLDISNOTAGAINSTYOU

    Dear Lennox St residents,

    Firstly, I do not work for DCC or have any connection to the body. As a landscape architect, I would like to give my professional reaction to the issue.

    Dublin City Council spends millions every year designing, planting and maintaining green areas around our city. They are committed to improving the number of trees and green spaces and work hard to keep us on apar with other cities around the world. Over 5,000 new trees are planted by DCC every year, and we currently have more green space per sq km than any other EU capital. I can assure you, they would not use funds to fell a single tree, were it not essential.

    These trees on Lennox St were planted at a time when landscape architecture and city planning were much much weaker than they are today. They were planted in the wrong position, at the wrong depth and WILL eventually cause serious damage to the street and adjacent structures.

    It may seem radical now, but were these trees left to grow for another 20 years, the beautiful Georgian homes which stand beside them would begin to suffer greatly. They are a great loss, but for a much greater good. This is forward planning, a preventative measure for an inevitable effect.

    These trees should be replaced, there is no arguement here, but they must be replaced in a senstive and carefully designed manner. The redesign of the street may not happen immediately. We are all aware of the financial restraints of this council at the moment, but that does not mean that the felling should also be delayed. Even if we must live as long as five years with no trees on this street, this may seem miserable, but it is a speck of time when you consider the long life this street will hopefully have into the future.

    This city is on loan to us. Those unique buildings which stand along Lennox street will long outlive a tree. Sacrifices are sometimes needed to preserve that which is more valuable. If we must stand and watch these trees be removed, we must think less selfishly and remember that this unfortunate measure will ensure the street can be enjoyed safely by our decendants.

    I strongly admire the huge passion the people responsible for this campaign have, but I would sincerely urge you to shift your focus from ‘saving the trees’ to ‘Redesigning your Street’. This can be an exciting and innovative time for the community to work together to come up with a solution, a new design, something to leave an impression and to add to the history of this wonderful historic area of our city.

    See this as a challenge and an opportunity to create something new, not as a reason to fight.

    1. dpd

      I am interested to learn, as you are a landscape graduate, why you say the trees cannot be saved ? We have many supporters including a well respected Landscape Architecture Practice who support wholly the retention and management of the existing trees. The trees are not diseased and should not be removed.

      Your point about viewing this as ‘an exciting opportunity to create something new’ reminds me of the stance architects, planners and the Council took in the 60’s and 70’s as they watched the levelling of Fitzwilliam Street and the destruction of large swathes of our once beautiful and historic city. All in the pursuit of something new – what did we get ? Have we learned nothing from our past mistakes?

      The trees planted on Lennox Street are Norwegian Maples (Acer Platanoides) chosen aptly for their ability to survive – as in other cities such as New York – strong pollution, restricted tree pits and poor soil condition. They are a good tree choice for inner city locations.

      You say they ‘WILL’ cause serious damage to adjacent structures. What have you to support this ? Are you a graduate of structural engineering too ? Do you really think the residents of Lennox Street would campaign to save trees that will destroy their homes – many residents who have lived here all their lives.

      You also wrongly assume they will be replaced. We would love to know, if the Council manages to remove these trees, that they would be replaced. However you must note carefully there is no such plan from the council should they be removed and this historic Georgian streetscape will be blighted and ruined for everyone.

      We see this challenge as an opportunity to rescue and properly maintain these trees for future generations – let us all work together with what we have and create something even better! The residents of Lennox street and supporters of our campaign do not want to ‘fight’ – we are more than happy to work with the council to produce an outcome amenable to all.

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