104 thoughts on “Hello You (Extreme Edition)

  1. Sinabhfuil

    A licence to have sex? With the TV licence now €160 and the dog licence €20, how many more things are they going to charge us for?

    1. ex pat

      Classic one is you have many RTE programmes on the website limited to ‘Island of Ireland only’ yet if you only have a computer you don’t need a TV license.

  2. John Gallen

    A person was on a TV programme, on the tele like, on RTE. They be hardcore. The end.

    That’s not a story, it’s barely a headline. Link to programme, a snippet even. Or maybe, the ALWAYS gratefully received, transcripts you guys do. Then readers would have something to go on…. just sayin’ BS.

    1. James Murran's Porn Stash

      She was introduced as someone with a medical background. No mention of her nutcase background as far as I can remember.

      1. Blobster

        While I totally disagree with her on the cervical cancer vaccine she is/was a nurse (according to the report on the link) so has a medical background.

        If we’re to go on what many commentators on BS say and keep religion out of the public sphere then that should be enough…..there was no need for a mention of her involvement in any religion? No?

        I don’t know what she had to say on the debate….if she was a nut (as you say) perhaps it came across.

        1. droid

          It is relevant that she is a long standing christian campaigner wrt to reproductive rights, and this should have been mentioned. She was introduced as a ‘nurse’.

        2. Siobh

          The point is the viewpoint she was spouting has nothing to do with her medical background, it’s to do with her religious beliefs. So in this context she should not have been introduced as someone with medical qualifications and her religion is very relevant indeed.

          1. Blobster

            I agree that her religious viewpoint is relevant and forms her point of view.

            It’s just we’re often told it doesn’t/shouldn’t be an issue. Which is it? Either what she says is right or wrong or somewhere in between.

        3. James Murran's Porn Stash

          I didn’t say anything about religion, but it would have been helpful to point out that she was involved in a campaign against a cancer vaccine on the grounds that it gives 11-year-old girls a licence to have sex. That, in my opinion, makes her a grade-A fruitcake. Nothing at all to do with religion.

          1. Blobster

            Sorry. You didn’t, I picked it up from the news report.

            Not sure everyone’s views on everything (the vaccine debate is quite different from the abortion one) needs to be trotted out each time they appear in a public debate.

          2. James Murran's Porn Stash

            Fair point. My original comment was designed to be flippant, but with a kinda serious undertone. When she was introduced as a medical person, I thought she was going to give a reasoned viewpoint based on medical expertise. Turns out I was wrong. No harm done at the end of the day.

        4. ferg

          she thinks cervical cancer is a “virus”.
          think that says all you need to know about her medical expertise…….

          1. Blobster

            I really don’t want to be defending her position on the vaccine because I think it’s wrong but she didn’t say (as she is reported in the article) that cervical cancer is a virus…..where did you hear/read her say that?

        5. Kath

          Religion being kept out of the public sphere means religious belief does not dictate nor direct public policy.

          It doesn’t mean religion is never mentioned – in this case you have a person whose religious beliefs are very much influencing what medical care they think should be available (or not) to the public. So in discussing what she said, the basis for her beliefs (her religion) is relevant.

          1. Barton Keyes

            Thank you, I knew there was a fallacy of some sort at play here.

            Conflating taking control away from the man behind the curtain with not being allowed to mention him, all the while being controlled by him.

        6. cluster

          I’ll get hammered for this but a nurse is not trained to a degree to give an opinion on the medical necessity of abortion.

          In the same way that working as an architect or a steel fixer on-site doesn’t give you the expertise to assess the structrual design of a building.

  3. Dublinentendre

    Frontline ‘audience’ is generally 5 guests and the rest are RTE interns told to keep their mouth shut. Questions & Answers it ain’t.

    1. cross-eyed cow

      Last night’s audience also contained Marie Steen of the weirdo IONA institute, who got lots of opportunities to speak, and also this person http://i.imgur.com/NSTJQ.png
      who seemed to think termination of pregnancy and abortion were totally different.

      1. brianmc

        Well every pregnancy terminates, as in, it ends. The termination/ending of the pregnancy does not necessarily entail the termination/aborting of the foetus, The pregnancy can also terminate in a live birth.

      2. Arbs

        Maria Steen (nee Davin), has quite some history in the pro-life campaign: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1389818.stm. A barrister (and architect) by profession although she didn’t practice for very long in either profession. She is, howver, quite an active and vocal member of the Iona Institute which according to David Quinn on twitter is not an Opus Dei organisation. As one accurate tweeter put it, it’s more a question of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

  4. A James Murran House Party

    She looks like Arsene Wenger’s older sister that always slaps him around the head when he goes home.

  5. Inno

    Hardcore alright!
    this is like saying that getting a hepatitis A shot gives you a license to not wash your hands after using the toilet!

    1. James Murran's Porn Stash

      I don’t understand why he was smirking the whole time. It’s like he gets the horn when he goes off on one of his nutjob spiels. Horrible runt of a man.

      1. Tickle

        I like to describe him as “odious”

        Never a more apt word for that individual. Should stick a picture of his smirking face under it in all dictionaries.

          1. Arbs

            Now, now, it is not Senator Ronan Mullen’s sexuality which I satirise but rather the fact that he presents certain courses of life as morally virtuous and others as not. This is a dangerous course to embark upon and he is setting himself up for a fall, particularly when there is the stench of smug hypocrisy about it all, in that he preaches about things of which he has little practical or emotional experience. Of course being single and over forty is not in any way unconventional but Mullen certainly advocates ways of life that count as conventional and unconventional, the former deserving of an elevated legal protection. This is taken to the extent whereby he advocates that those who believe they follow a conventional path can make a conscientious objection against those who follow a different path. A freedom to offend, if you like. It is this sort of hypocrisy and moralising I am trying (and will continue) to highlight despite the spin you place on it.

  6. cross-eyed cow

    Ronan Mullen was complaining that the audience was biased against his anti-choice views. Bizarrely, he said that the pro-choice supporters were clapping, and this was showing how biased the audience were, and as he was saying this, some people started to clap.

    1. Ben

      At that point the audience clapped because Pat said “that includes 1000′s of Irish women [going to UK for abortions].

      Mic didn’t catch it fully.

      There was one person clapping for Senator Mullen at one point.

  7. Arbs

    Although Senator Ronan Mullen, currently the leading candidate for the world’s oldest altar boy, is not much of a ladies man, following as he does a grand total of two on his twitter account, this is one of those women that he can totally get on board with.

      1. Arbs

        I’m entitled to call out smug hypocrisy when I see it, but in any event, I was not making an allusion to his sexuality or lack thereof. The term ladies man was specifically reserved for these statistics: http://geoffsshorts.blogspot.ie/2012/11/ronan-mullen-twitter-analysis.html You are reading that which is not there. For someone with such categorial views on abortion, which he is entitled to hold as a man, it is still quite telling that his views are essentially grounded in a very rigid a patriarchal social system. It is the latter which I have been sending up.

      2. cluster

        Agreed, the fact that every comment on this guy seems to refer to his sex life (straight or gay) is annoying and misses the point.

        1. Arbs

          it is not Senator Ronan Mullen’s sexuality which I satirise but rather the fact that he presents certain courses of life as morally virtuous and others as not. This is a dangerous course to embark upon and he is setting himself up for a fall, particularly when there is the stench of smug hypocrisy about it all, in that he preaches about things of which he has little practical or emotional experience. Of course being single and over forty is not in any way unconventional but Mullen certainly advocates ways of life that count as conventional and unconventional, the former deserving of an elevated legal protection. This is taken to the extent whereby he advocates that those who believe they follow a conventional path can make a conscientious objection against those who follow a different path. A freedom to offend, if you like. It is this sort of hypocrisy and moralising I am trying (and will continue) to highlight.

    1. vinfox

      “Donegal in some ways, is a place apart”
      A comment as closeted and narrow minded as you will find. Ironic, as narrow minds is a contributing factor to what is stifling progress in this area.

      1. Jaden

        Not Necessarily. Donegal was the only county to reject the recent children’s referendum. Thinking can be a bit skewed in that corner of the country, more so than most places.

        1. vinfox

          But by bracketing everyone that voted yes with everyone that voted no and then almost stating as fact that every man and woman who shares the same soil beneath their feet within the borders of Donegal have exactly the same mindset is incredibly simplistic thinking. It just doesn’t commute with me how people can use geography as a way of labelling people. It’s completely nonsensical.

  8. ryansson

    Half the population carry the HPV virus, which can lead to cancer. Vaccinating people for it will not turn teenage girls into lustful cockmonsters.

  9. gallantman

    That moment in every episode of the Inbetweeners where Will can’t take it any more and launches a sulkly, spiteful rant= Ronan Mullen all the time….

  10. Zackersetu

    Does it make me a reeeeeeaaallly bad person to say:…..

    I can’t wait till she (and her ilk) pops her (their) clogs.

    Lets be honest, when that particular portion of the population die out the country will be much better off!! (By that portion I of course mean them what believe the Catholprick Church – or the Presbsneerians… seriously I just want to continue with those puns now…wait …focus)…

    Its just clear that a certain generation, and, I accept, a portion of the new also (albeit thankfully small and contained) who support various religions regardless of those institutions repeatedly displaying their unsustainable stupidity, moral ambiguity and utter lack of the values they purport to teach. Once these people are “gone” then at least we can have a reasoned argument, as currently when one is met with an answer as overbroad, simplistic and utterly ‘head in the sand’-like … “God wills it or wants it that way”, is just a waste of time. Clearly these people are not making any sense, they shall not listen to any sense and are just Bat S**t Crazoids. Arguing with them in a reasoned or other fashion is just frustrating!

    Lets just not engage! Nod…bit our tongue … let them spew their vitriol, let us take a deep breath, and lead in our next comment with something like

    “Anyway, now that that is out of the way” or “hahahah…good one….. Spirit in the Sky …. anyway …etc”

    That being said tho….. “is there anything to be said for having another mass??”

    1. Tommy

      I agree. I can’t blame them to an extent. They grew up in the dark ages in a backward bog of a country. They have no place in the 21st century.

      1. mee

        Look at the photos of any of the pro-life events, though. Scary to see the amount of young people in attendance at those.

    1. DMc

      That’s only the tip of the iceberg. You should see her views on Gay marriage that a Donegal news paper printed. Still can’t decide if it’s a bigger shame on her for sending the letter or them for printing it! Download the piece in the link above

  11. Bangalore

    Just for the religious argument here is an article someone wrote about exactly how much the Bible actually cares about abortion

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-lowery-phd/abortion-what-the-bible-says-and-doesnt-say_b_1856049.html

    In addition the religious pro-life cannot use their own religion to be pro-life. The god they worship is the same god that killed all those little kids in Egypt.

    He even gave St Briget the ability to perform abortions, and not to save anyones life, just because she woman in question wanted one.

    Would any religious pro lifer like to say where they get their idea that abortion is bad with reference to gods or jesus’ words?

  12. l

    That lunatic has been on that show a few times blithering her christian nonsense and everytime she comes across as nothing more than a raving lunatic, why do they still let her on?

    I could be wrong of course, maybe I’m just confusing her with all the other blithering lunatics.

      1. David Bourke

        So, according to her logic, a heterosexual couple who cannot have children due to infertility or incompatablity should not have the same rights as others because God made them that way. Or am I mis-reading?

  13. SunshinePlease

    My 2 pennies: this women is an abomination, people like her are as responsible for the years of abuse, corruption and all other things wrong with the Church. They believe that every word the church says is to by lived and buried by. Thankfully, the power that she and her ilk were used to having is slowly being eradicated with the ordinary people. The sooner politicians can do the same the better. She should not be allowed communicate with the public at large in any way, shape or form. There is so much more I could say about her and her type but the rant might not stop.

  14. Fill3rup

    Senator Ronan Mullen’s interest in Womens health seems highly suspect to me,considering he doesnt seem to care about women in any other way..

  15. The Bennex

    When you say ‘a little bit hardcore’ do you mean ‘a tinfoil hat wearer that looks like the farmer from Babe’ ?

  16. Mike Baldwin

    ‘Running around having sex’ is a nightmare, trust me. Intimacy is impaired and you end up even more knackered than normal, stationary, sex.

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