It Never Gets Old

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Some of the ‘ladies’ hogging the limelight taking part in yesterday’s Flora Mini-Marathon in Dublin, the largest charity fundraising day of the year.

Undeniably funny?

Or lacking many of the key elements that constitute ‘funny’?

YOU decide.

(Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland)

112 thoughts on “It Never Gets Old

    1. Am I Still on This Island

      The drag queens don’t get medals or goodie bags! Despite paying entry fee, raising money and completing the race

      1. Sidewinder

        Also IIRC the goodie bags are like a cocktail of sexism and stereotypes. My sister did it before and got a laundry detergent sample and a small packet of panty liners.

        Fupping laundry detergent like.

  1. Don Pidgeoni

    I know its fundraising but why do men feel the need to take part in an event that is aimed at encouraging women to be fit and healthy? Its weird.

    1. Sgt. Bilko

      Because they think encouraging women to be fit and healthy is a good idea, and want to demonstrate solidarity in that regard, as well as being fit and healthy themselves and perhaps doing a bit of fundraising for worthy causes along the way?

        1. Sgt. Bilko

          And plenty of people do. Others want to do a bit more.

          Really, what is the problem?

          1. Sgt. Bilko

            Ah, so you’re the one having the problem. Try tolerance, it’s the hot new thing with the kids these days.

          2. Rob_G

            I find it weird that society still divides sporting events along the lines of gender(?!)

          3. Atlas

            If they didn’t gender segregate, women wouldn’t be able to compete in most sports. See the Williams sisters getting beaten easily by a drunk, 203rd-ranked Karsten Braasch for an example of that.

            What was the point of this whole thing anyway? Was it raising awareness for something or just encouraging women to be active? If the latter, I’d find it oddly paternalistic, regardless of whether those evil, misogynistic men were imposing themselves on a women’s event while appropriating a female identity or not.

          4. Medium Sized C

            Its a charity fun run aimed at women.
            The point is that women run and raise money for charity through the mechanism of sponsorship.

    2. Melton_Carbury

      I believe the answer is a combination of the second and third word in your question…see if you can figure it out from there.

  2. Kevin

    My wife did the mini marathon a few times and these “hilarious characters” always seemed to get more applause than the actual women running in the womens mini marathon. Very annoying.

        1. Don Pidgeoni

          My wife isn’ allowed out. She stays in the kitchen where she belongs.

          But seriously, fair dues. I would hazard a guess that 10k is further than most BS commentators could run and yet there they are, bitching away as usual

        2. Rob_G

          I think that calling a 10k (nothing wrong with a 10k, mind) a ‘women’s mini-marathon’ does a disservice to marathon-runners, and is patronising to women.

          1. Atlas

            I was under the impression that a 10k was a mini-marathon? I thought it went:

            – 5k
            – Mini-Marathon (10k)
            – Half-Marathon (20k)
            – Marathon (40k)

            ?

          2. Am I Still on This Island

            Atlas 15K is generally considered a Mini Marathon a 10K is a 10K

          3. Atlas

            Ah, right, well not anymore! 10k’s seem to be the standard mini-marathons now.

            Medium Sized C/Pidgeon – at this rate, a 5k will be a mini-marathon soon enough so we shouldn’t need to name it.

      1. NoBalls

        To validate the performance of the act. How many 10Ks did you run yesterday dressed up as a woman with oversized hilarious tits and raising money for charity? It’s easy to sit and moan isn’t it.

        1. PK

          “raising money for charidee” – the refrain of C-list douchebags on red carpets the world over

          Charitable Giving is a function of the giver – not the narcissistic twat who can’t run/walk 10k without pestering others to recognize their modest achievement.

          1. Nigel

            I mean, the last things charities need is publicity, spectacle and widespread community activism in the form of fun sporting events or celebrity spokespeople. Charity needs secrecy and concealment so that the givers can luxuriate in the hidden glow of how completely fupping awesome they are.

    1. rotide

      Surely your annoyance should be aimed at the people not applauding the correct targets rather than the people making money for charity?

    2. Just sayin'

      So your wife was upset she didn’t get enough applause when she ran the mini-marathon? You have more problems than you think.

  3. rotide

    Jaysus, you really are less tolerant than a bunch of auld nuns.

    If you knew the people involved I’m sure it would be hysterical, but you dont, so its not.

    Don’t see how this affects anyone in any way. Great excuse for an auld moan though eh?

    1. Medium Sized C

      I’m right with you here.

      You’d have to be a right whinging gobshite to get up the snotty moaning going on in this thread.

  4. Mister Mister

    What’s funny is that people walk, some run, a 10K race, and then claim to have done some sort of marathon afterwards.

    1. Chucky R. Law

      A 6 mile sponsored walk is seemingly a major achievement for some people. But it raises money for all those charities, so it can’t be anything but a good thing. Oh, wait…

    2. PK

      When I lived near Donnybrook I used to see a good few stopping off half way for drinks/fags/junk food. You’ll see it in town after the event.

      Wasn’t funny really.

      1. Sidewinder

        Saw a woman with an Irish Cancer society t-shirt lighting up on Westmoreland Street last year. I mean for god’s sake.

        Though tbf I wouldn’t blame the whole event for this.

  5. Bingo

    I think it’s lame and dated and if they want to support donate to a friend that’s running and stand along the route and clap. Please no more next year not funny.

  6. Ron

    broadsheet commentators dont find anything funny.. They just get outraged… at everything…

    1. Jay

      Are you outrage at the fact that broadsheet commentators dont find anything funny & just get outraged?

    1. NoBalls

      Yes and Indian headdress, then afterwards wrap them in mink shawls and serve green pints of Guinness with Happy St Pattys Day on the glass, and hopefully they are all wearing Union Jack underpants and all

  7. Stapler

    Good god, get over yourselves. How can you have a problem with someone dressing up in women’s clothing in order to raise funds for charity? Completely missing the point of them doing it. You think they are doing it to get in the paper or to mock the people doing it. Morons.

    1. PK

      “in order to raise funds” – if you want to give money for charity do something difficult – like run an actual marathon.

      This is as bad as the charity holidays – “I’m hiking in South America to raise funds for XYZ” – “but I don’t want to subsidise your holiday”

      1. Stapler

        Something difficult? What do you want them to do? 40k over hot coals, razor blades and shark tanks. They got up off their arses and went out and completed an event for charity, there’s only one winner there.

        1. Mani

          Yes. The various hostelries they went to afterwards to replenish all those lost calories.

        2. PK

          How do you know “they did it for charity”?

          why does it have to be for charity ? It’s a 10k race -or at least it started out as that.

          1. Stapler

            Well judging from the people I seen in town wearing as many charity tshirts that I did, I’d be having a wild stab at them doing it for charity. Why does anything have to be for charity? Think you need a restart on your upbringing and education.

          2. PK

            “Well judging from the people I seen in town ” – I think you’re the one who needs to go back to primary school.

            Break out of the group think.

            There are road races up and down the country for people who what to exercise without the orgy of self-congratulation.

          3. Nigel

            For God’s sake, who do they think they are, deserving congratulations for raising money for charity? Why can’t these people understand how wrong and awful running a 10k for charity makes them?

          4. rotide

            PK, I’m assuming you are from outside Dublin because you’re acting like the womens mini marathon is this fantastical strange entity beamed in from outer space.

            It happens every year, has a HUGE attendance and a very very large proportion of the runners get sponsored for charity. It’s also great craic altogether (I’ve never run it in drag but have attended when friends/collegues were running).

            Most people in Dublin know all this and accept it (it plays havoc with traffic every year, as does the marathon) and not many people moan about it to the extent that you are.

      2. Rob_G

        If people only raised money doing very difficult challenges, there would be a lot less money raised for charity overall.

        I doubt that any of the donations subsidised any of the participants today, I’m sure that they paid their own bus fare, so not sure what you’re getting at with your second point.

        1. PK

          “If people only raised money doing very difficult challenges, there would be a lot less money raised for charity overall.”
          I’d give a lot more to someone doing something difficult than this piece of piss.

          What next – will you sponsor me getting my legs waxed?

          1. Sidewinder

            I’d venture that tells us all that you’re the stingy arsehole in this. Not the people running. Some people go for a run/walk and shedloads of money is raised for charity. I see nothing wrong with either of these things.

            Just carefully explain to us what exactly your problem is? Or how about you meet all the runners, decide which ones you don’t like, have them run somewhere else all quiet and humble like in a fun free zone and then you give all the money they would have donated instead.

            Miserable shite that you are.

          2. Stapler

            Agree with Sidewinder. You struck me as the person who sponsors a kid .20c for his sponsored walked and thinks he’s great. Jacka$$

  8. Sgt. Bilko

    Broadsheet should organise a JoylessDouchebagathon for charity next year, a 10k sneering whinge through Blackpitts, perhaps. Celebrity judges to include Joe Macken, Exchequer Street Boy, Niall Harbison and Twink.

  9. Clampers Outside!

    *clambers in dilapidated phone box to put outrage running suit on… pumps fake boobs frantically, does hair and makeup up with hoe and trowel, inserts gnome appropriately*

    “Ready now…. Tada!”

    *Steps out looking like Rosanna Davison….. flicks hair in slow-mo*

  10. NoBalls

    You’d be hard pressed to find a phonebox these days – let alone a lad who knows how to use a trowel _ I’ll tell you what this country is going to the gods

  11. deliverancecountry

    I would like to see a woman run a marathon with a beerbelly and comb-over.

  12. hello you!

    good on the guys… ‘women only’ charity races are a thing of the past; we need to move with the times on this one.
    I genuinely feel sorry for people who genuinely find this ‘carry on’; annoying, weird, offensive, etc.
    They are raising money for worthwhile causes while injecting a degree of fun into the whole affair (there’s a reason they (sometimes) get more applause/cheers than the actual women actually running/walking in the actual mini marathon)…

  13. R

    why do they not take their ‘hilarious tits’ and dresses and heels and run in the men’s marathon? answer – they wouldn’t be able to patronise.

    1. rotide

      The men’s marathon eh?

      Exactly which “men’s” marathon would that be?

      Interesting that whenever the subject of golf clubs comes up there is a VERY different line towed

    2. SOMK

      Well yes, but your framing one manifestation of sexism (women are just tits and hair) with another (be a real man and run a proper marathon).

      The actual truth is

      a) No of course it’s not that funny, it’s probably funny for a childish or someone of a childish wit.

      b) It probably is a bit sexist

      c) It’s not that big a deal, because this is also a manifestation of a wider acceptance of the fluidity of sexual identity, it’s not ideal, but if you were to try running in a women’s marathon like this in the 60’s you’d end up in court, in the 80’s you wouldn’t want your boss to know, today well, ha! ha! very funny, but not really, but an acceptable funny. There’s no such thing as a perfect controlled explosion, it’s an explosion, the old systems fall down, signals get sent out and people read them differently. This is a sign of progress, it is also a sign that there’s some way to go, not because this is wrong in and of itself, but because it’s seen as being a big deal, it shouldn’t, these symbols are meaningless, they should be so meaningless that in the future it’s be so pointless a thing to do as it wouldn’t even be worth doing.

      It’s not offensive for women to dress up as men, because men are socially dominant (ie. more represented both politically and in the workforce at executive levels and in pay etc.), when it is no longer offensive for men to dress up as women then that’ll be the great ‘war’ over.

      Take this hypothetical situation, your walk through Dublin 4 down the street screaming “f*** you” at people and you do the same in Crumlin, what’s the likely outcome? In Dublin 4 you’ll probably be ignored, maybe have the police called on you, in Crumlin you’d get your head kicked in. Why? Because people in D4 because of their higher status don’t see someone walking down the street as taking anything from them they feel they need to to defend, in Crumlin on the other hand because you have a lower status you have to defend what you have because it’s all you have.

      Now if you had a greater degree of economic equality in Ireland people in Crumlin would react to the loon walking around Crumlin screaming “f*** you” that same way people in D4 would, but they don’t. So too if you had real gender equality men dressing up as women in a women’s marathon wouldn’t be a big deal.

      Incidentally re: the whole #yesallwomen vs. #notallmen thing (oh boy), one of the problems (one mind, just one, for the record #yellallwomen >>> #notallmen) is the difference between the audience and the speakers, it’s women talking to women in a language women understand better (in general) than men (not that that is a bad thing in and of itself of course).

      Speaking in very broad terms here but, imagine you have a cut finger, if you go to mammy she’ll say “aw poor thing” (empathy) if you go to daddy he’ll say “how did you do that to yourself?” (rationality*), tell a woman you’ve a problem you get sympathy, tell a man you have a problem he’ll give you solutions, in general, both are important and equally valid. Unfortunately #yesallwomen follows this pattern, it wants empathy, it wants people to listen, but men being less empathic and more logical in thinking, offer first solutions thinking they’re being helpful (“well what were you doing when he did X”) and when that’s rejected get all high horsey and #notallmen (because the vast majority of men abhor sexual violence against women and as such get offended to be associated with it). The solution would be a narrative where solutions are stated boldly, so instead of expressing vague sentiments about “changing the culture” you give examples, eg. “When I (a woman, I’m not a woman, I’m just pretending to be one here) was in a job and I was the only woman there, I was getting a lot of stick for being a woman, people didn’t believe that I could do the job on the as a women, but there was this one guy, who stood up and told the others to cut it out, drop the sexist jokes and just respect me as a fellow co worker, after he did that, I settled in so much better, it wasn’t perfect but the fact that one man had the guts and stood up for me like that, when most men wouldn’t, really made a difference for me, in fact it was the best job I ever had.” Of course twitter, 140 characters, the nature of mass online discourse etc. makes such things rather difficult, it’s far from impossible.

      *rationality if often held up a the marker of sanity (the opposite of rationality is empathy not irrationality, but that’s how it’s broadly perceived) can be just as mad as empathy and feeling, wars for example, high in rationality, low in empathy.

        1. Sidewinder

          It’s quite good I thought. Worth a read.

          I’d venture that #yesallwomen wasn’t looking for empathy though. When I tweeted I was looking to inform people. I didn’t want someone to say “oh boodums”, I wanted them to think “Fupp, that’s awful. I think this is a serious problem that i should help with. This should inform my opinions and perceptions of women and their actions”.

          Men tell “understanding women” jokes all the time while completely dismissing women when we patiently and repeatedly explain our actions to men.

        2. rotide

          I did read it, but i lost sympathy with the “it’s offensive for men to dress up as women” argument given the context of the thread.

          Bring #yesallwomen into it is an uneeded escalation, again given the context of the thread.

  14. Murtles

    I took part in the womens mini-marathon yesterday despite in my manly manliness (I left it too late to dress up but did sport a very dubious wig that made me look like a aging hippy rather than being feminine). Took part as a charity group who were missing a person. Paid my entry fee, paid my own way to Dublin and back and thorougly enjoyed the fun of it all and didn’t whinge about not getting a medal. What amazed me was not that it was less than a half marathon, not that 3/4 of the participants walked it and not that there was a scattering of men in drag, but the amount of different charities that will benefit from yesterday. Of all the participants I seen, about 1% were not wearing some sort of charity t-shirt. And although if there was a Mens Only race of this size there probably would be uproar, if it done the same job fundraising for good causes, then f**k the begrudgers.

    1. Mister Mister

      It was less than a quarter of a marathon, never mind less than a half on one.

      1. Mister Mister

        And another person who fails to understand what a begrudger is, it must be hovering around 99.9% of the population at this stage.

      2. Sidewinder

        Oh boo fupping hoo. Who gives a poo? This genuinely seems to be a problem from people who feel like their achievements of running a marathon or half marathon are belittled. I’ve never seen someone have a reaction beyond “oh that’s nice, aren’t you nice” to someone who does the mini compared with the “jesus christ, fair play, christ I could never do that, wow!” Reaction usually seen in response to people who run full marathons.

        Also for the record I think most people who run marathons are completely daft. It’s properly dangerous.

    2. PK

      Why do can’t you just give the money to charity and run somewhere else (because lets face it; it’s impossible to run the 10k even if you want to due to the masses of slow pokes)

      1. Sidewinder

        I don’t know. Let’s ask each of the thousands of runners. Or you could try thinking outside the box that is your mind.

  15. Caroline

    There’s a lot to choose from here in terms of over-sensitive offence-takers, but if I had to pick one then it’s the sobbing and wailing of the people who get all upset about the abuse of the word marathon that do it for me, Joe.

  16. Buzz

    I haven’t read the comments but what harm is it, a few fellas donning frocks and runners, if they raise money for charity. Irish men enjoying themselves without pints, I’m all for it. Live and let live.

  17. Carmel Lucas

    Oh for god sake people “Chill The Hell Out” there is nothing wrong with guys wanting to run for charity & better yet dressing up. I think fair bloody play to each & everyone of them for doing it. A LOT of men wouldn’t even have the balls to do it in the first place. It’s all for a good cause @ the end of the day & a fun day out.

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