‘Use Your Anger’

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“While our political elites remain silent in face of slaughter, the growing boycott movement, from Kinvara to the Exchequer Bar, shows the way forward in helping end Israeli government impunity.”

Activist and rugby player Trevor Hogan, who visited Gaza last year, addresses protesters outside the Israeli Embassy, Pembroke Road, Ballsbridge, Dublin on Saturday.

(Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland)

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95 thoughts on “‘Use Your Anger’

    1. Odis

      I take it ABM, your support for the Israeli “Culture of Death”, has something to do with them preferring to kill children after they have been born?

      1. ABM

        His only track record in opposing disproportionate force is when there are Jews involved.

        It’s morally wrong to be apathetic of wrong-doing in the world. What’s even more morally wrong is to utilise the deaths of innocents to further personal views.

        GAA player cum geo-political negotiator. Gimme a break.

  1. Sam

    Heard him, good speaker, concise, to the point, cuts through the pro-Israel fascism like a hot knife through butter.

    1. All the good ones fly south for winter

      Great analogy, Stevie Kenarban, it’s like, an overused, cliche, everyone hates.

  2. Paps

    This selective outrage is a joke , where were these angry masses for the butchery in nigeria? the 1000’s killed in iraq recently? Israel responds to being attacked by the islamic terrorists and the world goes insane! Hamas are using these people as human shields , Hamas’s terror tunnels were built by child labour , where 100’s died , anyone who stands up to Hamas are executed . This is not an occupation , the land is disputed , taking a step back from the situation and looking at it from an unbiased view shows what hypocrisy there is. Peace will never be an option , and it’s not because of Israel.

      1. Paps

        Take a look at the Arab Muslim views and tell me they are not fascist?
        “Our doctrine entails exterminating Jews!”
        It was far less of a Rant than the video posted above. It also held more truth.

        1. ollie

          Papas pops up to defend Israeli war crimes. If there’s one thing I do admire about Israel it’s their ability to recruit tens of thousands of propagandists to work social media.

          1. Bejayziz

            Forgot to take your meds today Ollie? Don’t forget to replace your mammies roll of aluminium foil after your done with it

      2. YourNan

        look up fascism in the dictionary Tina, I think you are confused or just selectively ignorant.

    1. Jess

      You’re either an idiot or havent been paying attention because your arguments are brought up in every thread and demolished.

      ‘where were these angry masses for the butchery in nigeria? the 1000′s killed in iraq recently?’

      Are nigerian and iraqi death squads being funded by western governments? no, israel is.

      ‘hamas are using these people as human shields’

      No they don’t. Plenty of people have shown it doesn’t unlike Israel which has been shown to use human shields

      http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993

      ‘terror tunnels’

      The use of rhetoric like this bull just shows how far you’ve swallowed the propaganda. Palestinians calorific intake is being limited by the IDF, palestinians cannot farm their land or fish their waters. Their ports and airport have been destroyed. The only way to get food and medical supplies in is through those tunnels. But because palestinians have built them then idiots call them ‘terror tunnels’. Keep consuming the freedom fries Paps

      1. peter

        Firstly, when you say western governments who do you mean?
        We are in Ireland here, not the US or GB.
        And so what if Israel are funded by the US, its their money just as Iran fund Hezbeloah and Hamas.

        Secondly, the links you send have zero validity in my eyes. Most of it is opinion with little hard facts.

        Thirdly,Have you ever considered that if Hamas stopped the rockets they may break the blockade?
        Oh sorry it’s their land so they are excused.(sarcasm).

        The blinkered views are what really annoy me..gggrrrr

        1. ollie

          Paps and Peter, both working for the Israeli sponsored and funded propaganda machine. Can i sign up? Does it pay well?

          1. peter

            Ollie,
            I have no connection with any govermnet of state agency.
            I just disagree with your opinions(if you even expressed them).

            This accusing someone of being a troll or hasbara funded is tedious and against the spirit of chatrooms.

          1. Medium Sized C

            You are using a news story from Isreal, about how they criminally convicted two solders for using a human shield, as evidence that the state condones the use of children as human shields.

            That is wrong.
            The news paper article disproves the assertion you are making.
            Either that or you are judging the actions of an entire state against the actions of two soldiers.

          2. WhoAmI

            That is true, jess could have just cited the Goldstone report instead.
            But why rely on the opinion of a respected jurist eh?

      2. Paps

        Ah…. so just because they aren’t being funded by western governments they don’t count right?
        They are lesser people and don’t qualify for any boycotts , public outrage , demonstrations ?

        1. Jess

          Please tell me how I can boycott ISIS because Id be well up for if. Are they exporting oranges or perhaps a new iphone app? Do they have an embassy I can protest outside?

          Lets play a simple game called ISIS or Israel.

          Q1: Which one is being given billions in aid and weaponry by the west?
          Q2: Which one is currently being bombed into shit by the west?
          Q3: Which one claims to be a modern democracy?
          Q4: which one claims to be a medieval caliphate?
          Q5: which one claims god is giving them the land?

          1. WhoAmI

            I agree with you but a story trending today asserts that IS leaders were trained by MOSSAD.
            This game is not as easy as it looks!

    2. Clampers Outside!

      @Paps calls out ‘selective outrage’ by comparing the situations of a completely different type and then quoting stuff from the Israeli propaganda media all the while claiming against the one absolute truth in this war, that it is an occupation.

      Hahaha… g’wan ya blind fool :)

      1. peter

        Its a war.
        There has never been a Palestine state to occupy.
        you should brush up on your history and stop reading the ISPCA website.

    3. munkifisht

      What I love about idiot’s like you is you have this blinkered view that there is some kind of rating scheme for butchery. That we must somehow examine every conflict, weigh up it’s merits and then protest accordingly. Of course normal people are outraged by all conflicts, but they are conflicts, not slaughters. It is actually so f**kin disgusting it rightly outrages normal people.

      Israels recent crimes are just another dump on the pile of crimes they have been guilty of for the past 60 years in their treatment of Palestine. The tragedy and outrage here is Israel is a modern almost western state perpetuating a massacre of women and children. This after decades of apartheid.

      But if you do want to get down to brass tax, they have deliberately crippled the infrastructure of Gaza ensuring that in the coming months the true death toll of this conflict will be in the 10s of thousands not thousands. Hamas are a shower of evil bastards too, but using human shields they’ve managed to kill 2 Israeli civilians and one Malaysian tourist. The iron dome works. Israel is the dominant power in the region due to economic and military bolstering by the US. The equivalent here is someone using a bazooka to swat a fly and, at the same time targeting the fly’s family, children, and wife to try and exterminate them completely.

      Disputed territory? Wow, you really are an ignorant (insert appropriate expletive). Yea, Israel disputes it while the rest of the world in the form of the International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly and the United Nations Security Council regards Israel as the “Occupying Power”.

      Also, the reason this is in the news is because the other conflicts you’ve mentioned, this one has global consequences. This conflict could lead to major destabilisation of the middle East. Further to that it serves to radicalise young Muslims. The fall out here is not just the 2000 Palestinian dead.

      What TH said is right, 95% of Israelis believe they are justified in this conflict, that the bombing of schools and hospitals is an appropriate response. Peace will never be an option if Israel don’t realise that what they are perpetrating are crimes against humanity and they can’t hold up a “we’re justified and you’re just anti-Semitic” card any more. They hold all the cards and if there is to be peace they are the one’s who are going to have to broker it, and it will mean an end to treating Palestinians as second class citizens in their own land.

    4. cluster

      You make some fair points but ‘This is not an occupation , the land is disputed ‘ is false.

      By any reasonable description, it is an occupation, including in the minds of many Israelis.

    1. peter

      Unlikely, this was an anti Israel, pro Palestine protest.
      I condone the murder of civilians in any conflict but the deep seeded hatred for Israel is scary.
      Makes me worried if any of these sinners get elected in next year. Or clare dalys mates.

          1. peter

            @Whoareya for below coment
            My opinion is that he ia a stooge.
            Not clear enough for you.
            I wasnt starting an argument just giving my opinion.
            also I nevet said Trev was controlled by anti israeli elements.

          2. WhoAreYa

            peter – you didn’t say ‘In my opinion TH may be a stooge” or “…could be a stooge”, you said “what a stooge” which was a declaration of fact in relation to TH, in the eyes of any reasonable person.

            Interestingly when called upon to assert whether that was defamatory bullshit as opposed to “fair comment” which would be based on personal knowledge of the man or his employment situation, you then chose to re-write history, but are clearly a few braincells short of a picnic as the entire worldwide web can see what you wrote above.

            stooge
            stuːdʒ/Submit
            noun
            1.
            derogatory
            a subordinate used by another to do unpleasant routine work.
            “party stooges put there to do a job on behalf of central office”

          1. WhoAreYa

            Why – are you a troll also?

            “In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments”

            peter’s original comment in relation to Trevor Hogan expressing his opinion on Gaza was ‘What a stooge’. Is that ‘fair comment’ peter? Can you explain what you know or otherwise can say of Mr. Hogan that allows you to assert in public fora that he is in the pay or otherwise controlled by anti-Israeli elements?

            As for you Mr C when I want your opinion I’ll ask for it.
            Mind your own fupping business.

          2. Medium Sized C

            No.
            I’m pretty much always gonna give my opinion when I feel like giving it.
            You’re gonna have to live with it.

            It seems you just want to live in a world where everyone agrees with you.
            You’re not gonna get it.

          3. WhoAmI

            See above – you may really have some kind of issue so I am not going to pick on you.

            I am all for dissent in fact, where it’s informed, fair-minded or even well-reasoned gibberish.

            Neither peter’s comment on Hogan was fair comment ( as he can not substantiate ) nor are your tedious contributions in general frequently worth more than garbage here. That’s just my ‘opinion’.

            But hey maybe you can show the world here how Hogan can be fairly labelled ‘what a stooge’ for his good faith rhetoric?

    2. cluster

      Hosannah, part of the tragedy of Israel in recent times is that many Israelis genuinely seem to think that if only they could demonstrate some sort of moral superiority over or even parity with Hamas, that all would be well.

      Israel is a sister state of ours in many ways and to see it aim for no better than Hamas, and given their power and position to commit much, much more atrocities than Hamas is lamentable.

  3. YourNan

    this pro-palestine movement is like a magnet for the mentally retarded, no wonder this never gets solved.

      1. peter

        give it a rest ollie.
        Who is paying you to make all these accusations?
        I dont know anything about anyone else here but I is a free agent

      2. All the good ones fly south for winter

        Totally, it’s the only explanation ollie, your astute observations put cold water on the cousins shouldn’t marry theory.

  4. johnthebaptist

    You know you’ve pissed off the right people when the comment section is almost fully made up of clearly paid for stooges.

    Keep it up Broadsheet!

    1. peter

      The ususal Hasbara comments from the ISPCA or whatever they are called.
      Can’t a man have an opinion without been considered an agent of zionism.
      Such a broked record.

        1. Smashmouth

          Can’t a man have an opinion that differs to yours without being labelled a shill or a stooge?

          1. Odis

            The vast majority of people, that I disagree with, on this site aren’t shills.
            There are some propagandists who are currently coming on this site to defend the ethnic cleansing of the criminal Israeli state. A lot of these people are shills.

            So what’s your question Smashy? Couldn’t you resist passing one of my comments without coming out with the first thick outburst, you could shite from your laptop?

            I’d have my doubts about you as a bona-fide shill though, because you seem a lot more stupid and impulsive than most..

          2. Smashmouth

            Again, your hyperbolic retort to a simple question portrays you as someone who is unable to participate in logical debate without flying off the handle

            but sure, i’m a bona-fide shill who just had a “thick outburst”

            i’m also “a lot more stupid”

            ha ha!

            you do entertain me, i’ll give you that

      1. ahjayzis

        When one’s opinion mirrors almost verbatim the published, well-aired talking points of the Israeli press office, it’s a fair enough assumption IMO.

        If I come on here and talked about ‘stability’ as though it were nirvana and the perfect state we all aspire to and for our children, you’d probably think I worked for Fine Gael, right?

        1. cluster

          We do seem to have a bit of trouble in Ireland genuinely tolerating those with different opinions and even engaging with them. It seems that many of us coalesce around a consensus and unleash a barrage of ad hom at anyone who dares to contradict.

          What exactly that consensus seems to change over time, but those general habits do not.

          Anyone who has argued in favour of property tax etc. will have experienced being labelled a YFG shill. Indeed, I have had retorts of ‘FG shill’ and ‘hippy’ on the same day on different threads.

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