Mike Hogan writes:
“Evicted pensioner Violet Coyne (top) spoke to Niall Boylan on Classic Hits 4FM today. She spoke live from The High Court. She was in a dressing gown, while her husband wore slippers and a borrowed jumper.”
Earlier: Meanwhile, At The Four Courts
(Mark Stedman/Photocall Ireland)
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Ah I wish John Giles would stay out of this
Blablabla… People renting expect rights to stay forever in a house now? Also, I would urge people to dig out for the all story, like the fact that they knew this was coming and refused to move. A non-event.
Agreed. They had about 18 months to prepare for this.
If they had left when they were told they wouldn’t be in this mess.
This is the singularly most stupid thing I have read on the interweb today.
How is it? They defied an order of the court which has resulting them being in court today
*resulted in them
don’t mind the troll Markus! Spartacus is just being Spartacus. The saddo has been having a go at everyone today . It would not matter what you say in a comment. He would reply with some bizarre hyperbole. Guy is a loser. just ignore him.
Ah now, I know I’m a bad person, but a loser? You have hurt me deeply with that remark.
Are you not just contradicting yourself there?
That was meant for Spartacus (below).
This fecking site sometimes.
No.
It’s a perfectly reasonable statement. Your response is the stupidest thing I’ve read today.
+1
Jock, I don’t think I’m going out on a limb when I say that you wouldn’t know reasonable if it kicked you in the arse.
What’s the “reasonable” length of time someone should be allowed stay in a house after a court-issued eviction notice? Serious question.
Is that question directed at me? I think we should always follow court directions. Anything else would result in anarchy and the collapse of the current system.
Are you not just contradicting yourself there?
No.
Thank god I’m NOT Spartacus.
You appear to see a contradiction between my position on respect for court decisions and that of the stupidity of a statement made by Kill The Poor. I can’t really help you with that, really.
*Pedantic Pat. Jesus, talk about an own goal.
She should have been sent home for turning up in court like that.
Erm, are you being smart? She doesn’t have a home
I am being smart. I can’t help it unlike yourself.
Haha! You’re right. Your primary school uniform makes you so much smarter than myself
Funny how you and Spartacus sound exactly alike. Probably because you are the same person.
Someone hit the stop button! Postmanpat has caught someone cheating.
Do you need a note from your doctor ?
MEGA LOL’D at that one
Thanks. I figured that most people would miss the joke.
It’s like the origin story for Abbot and Costello, only, you know, not funny.
She was on her way to Tesco.
If they can perhaps they could get a deposit for a place up the road in Mulhuddart or Clonsilla till they get back on their feet. Horrible situation to be in . Rents around Castleknock are not within price range of a lot of people…
Actually scrap that saw they had no money for alternative accommodation http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/dublin-couple-evicted-from-home-before-court-case-1.1909461
http://www.sundayworld.com/top-stories/daily-world/eviction-row-pair-blame-planning-laws
weird situation here. they were granted planning in 2012 on property they owned, yet have been on fingal’s housing list since 2010? and claiming rent supplement? ownership of property makes you ineligible to be on a housing list.
An undeveloped building plot now in negative equity, no?
not the point, spartacus. if you own, or have an interest in property you’re not deemed to have a housing need.
An empty field with no structure or services satisfies the requirement? Really?
Its an asset , they could sell the field / development plot and use that to house themselves, hence no need for state help.
You understand the meaning of negative equity, and the implications for the seller, yes?
really. if worse came to worst they could stick a temporary dwelling on it. i wonder if they still own it?
Meh.
This is actually ridiculous, it has been going on for 4 years & I am they would find another house somewhere if they looked. They decided not to look for something else because they thought the council would take care of them. I just had a quick look on daft.ie, & there are plenty of accomodations for under €700 outside of Dublin & probably 2 years ago there was a house more for this money.
Additionally the stories don’t really add up – in the Sunday World they said that they bought the land to build a family home but on the radio she says they were building to sell.
While it is a bit ridiculous that they were kicked out without the clothes, but I would like to hear from the Sheriff that they didnt allow them to change. My guess is they probably thought if they didnt change they would not be kicked out/ or that the judge would take pity on them.
the judge is also bound by the law, so not much that he can do if it was a lawful eviction – ie. notices have been served.. etc.
Pyjamas are usually down the quays at the Criminal Courts.
Those saying they shouldn’t get evicted and that those not repaying mortgages shouldn’t be evicted either need to take things to their logical conclusion. If you can’t be evicted from anywhere why would you ever pay?
i don’t think anyone is saying they shouldn’t have been evicted. it all seems legal to me inanyways.
Some people are. There are real cases where people are being made homeless through no fault of their own and at relatively short notice but these people have had ages to find somewhere. Just because they don’t fancy moving doesn’t mean they are victims. They pushed their luck and now they’re looking for a cheap photo op so that they can get on the Marian Finnucane show.
+1
@D
I think the difficulty here is that these people lived in a house that they called home for 15 years. There doesn’t appear to be any reason to believe that they defaulted on their rent, indeed if I understand the rent supplement system correctly it would have needed regular contact between their landlord and social welfare system to keep the payments going.
The lack of empathy here is remarkable. If the legal system demanded that I leave my home (which I own) by compulsary purchase order for example, I’d fight tooth and nail until the last possible second and fupp the begrudgers. Why should we hold this couple to a different standard because they are “only” renting?
It wouldn’t happen in Germany.