The article could have been written by the average Broadsheet commentator. Yes, recognize yourselves, saddoes.
will-billy
so true
Grimes
I wonder does hashtag see the irony in their comment
Dhaughton99
Is Niamh Horan the writer of the piece?
Willie Banjo
Does she appear in the piece? No? Well, then she didn’t write it.
dhaughton99
Touchy.
Authors name not on it. Why would she be in it?
tomthebom
In fairness, most of her articles are actually about herself, whatever else they masquerade as.
ABM's Bloodied Underwear
Oddly enough, they declined to put their name to this fantastic piece of journalism.
Hand Solo
I think Tom Burke was the name attributed to this article.
Tom Stewart
People may dismiss this as a trifle, but it is not. Starbucks are massive coconuts on numerous counts, all of which fly directly in the face of what Barrett supposedly stands for.
And it’s not as if he didn’t have a choice: about 50% of Dublin is coffeeshops these days.
Mr. T.
So you fell for it then.
Tom Stewart
What do you mean?
Peadar
That’s all true, but it’s still not news.
The Indo also chose to report on how Boyd Barrett claimed his full travel expenses last year to fix his car. They neglected to investigate the other Dublin TDs’ expenses at all.
I dislike RBB, as he comes across as an odious toad most of the time, but this is a hatchet job, and a poor one at that.
will-billy
maybe it’s a che latte?
Jack Charlton
Hold on. THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD
Wayne Carr
Do as I say, not as I do.
will-billy
rather neither, thanks wayne
Mr. T.
Wow the Indo really is full of cheap hacks scraping the barrel.
And in the next breath, they’ll be letting on to speak out for the average Joe.
I wish people would stop buying this piece of crud.
Dan
Link to independent article is broken.
Conski
This is the same Starbucks thats located in the former Anglo Irish Bank on the Green – STOP THE PRESS ! Who’s Vicki Vale!?!?
Gokkers
They forgot to mention that he’s also put on weight, how diddley dare he.
Why not contrast in the post this piece of voter information with the glowing article about that famed humanitarian and general all-round perfect local TD Michael Lowry from a few weeks ago?
sickofallthisbs
You are presupposing that Broadsheet attempts to be independent by providing balance in its news coverage or by investigating what is submitted to them.
Sham Bob
What he’s suggesting would reinforce the point of this article, not provide your so-called balance. The Lowry article would prove that the Independent is an attack dog when it comes to left wing TD’s but soft-soaps anyone in the FG gene-pool, even those with findings made against them in a tribunal on corruption. Clearly it’s the ironically named Independent which has a problem with balance, and Broadsheet is dead right to highlight it.
When I’m grabbing a coffee I go to either the nearest one or the one without the Queue or the one where I’m due a freebie. How I vote has ūck all t’do wi’it
And AFAIK. Starbucks in Ireland is one of many franchise brands owned by the same local family, Butler(?) Milanos Mao TGI Fridays etc.
I’d be very surprised if they’re not stumping up locally. Mind you, I’m always open to correction.
Kath
+ one big shot of espresso
will-billy
make mine a double!
sickofallthisbs
EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE/ACTION YOU DO IS POLITICAL. THINK ABOUT WHO YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU SQUEEZE A SPOT.
Wayne Carr
No sickof, if you aren’t aware of something, then you can’t be proven guilty of it. Thus, you don’t have to take personal responsibility for doing it.
It’d be like me pointing a gun at a child, presuming it wasn’t loaded, pulling the trigger, and then being covered in brain splat. I can’t be charged with any crime, because I’m an ignorant moron. That’s the law, both in this country, and in the universe.
An unhealthy vendor of bitterness and froth, raising the heart-rates of morons so its owner can live in tax-avoding splendour. Starbucks and the Indo are made for each other.
davwal
Mebbe he be recycling cups?
Chris
Part of me thinks this is nonsense, but I have to say I even avoid Starbucks myself, I have deliberately not gone in hundreds of times. Not saying you should be but if you are the type with a niggling social conscience Starbucks is one of those little things you can so easily opt out of. You can get a cup of coffee anywhere else. He does a lot of political trading on the back of his Socialist morals where as I don’t do any on mine. If I can avoid it why can’t he?
ABM's Bloodied Underwear
Maybe he’s going to do a Ming “The contents of this container is shite” speech and dare those in Daíl Eireann to drink it.
rory
+1 I feel the same.
Jess
Surely this is one of the worst things an irish politician has ever done. I expect a corruption tribunal to assembled forthwith
jeremy kyle
Let them drink tae.
aretheymyfeet
Well all I know is Gerry Adams and SF just breathed a big sigh of relief…..
Blublu
Actually think it’s fair that this is reported, only problem is that they don’t do the same micro examination for right leaning politicians. If you campaign hard against large corporates and tax avoiders you shouldn’t be supporting them at the same time.
Well nothing really. But it’s hardly a good foundation for his whole “The minister doesn’t know how tough it is for real people on the ground” when he’s off home later to a mammy dinner.
Not gonna vote someone in who can’t even put a roof over his own head.
bob
Bizarre logic
Lilly
I agree though. No effectual adult male over the age of 22 lives with his mother. It screams dysfunction.
will-billy
lol almost true
Janet
It might scream bad luck, or a previous bad choice of partner. . It can be a humbling experience when you have a bad patch yourself.. pride before a fall and all that :)
I think it’s a fairly low bar to want to vote for representatives who can at least support themselves? And I don’t mean home ownership necessarily, but living with your folks when you’re earning and at that age is just a no-no.
I wouldn’t date a 40 year old living with his parents, why the hell would I vote for one?
will-billy
you’d get a date with that sort of attitude?
Janet
+1
Lilly
@ Janet — Yes, of course. I was thinking more of the sort of fella who has never managed to cut the apron strings, never left the nest or if he did, only for a short-lived flit.
Janet
Ah fair enough :)
will-billy
you live with your mama?
Janet
coming home for Christmas though! should dispel rose tinted delusions of big fries in bed and all my clothes ironed. …
Bonkers
I agree with the general sentiment, its Boyd Barrets choice where he gets his coffee but jesus a bit of common sense lad, if you’re going to give out about tax avoidance then spending your money with tax avoiders isn’t exactly the way to go.
Either way this is an Indo hatchet job because we all know they dont and won’t give politicans on the right the same scrutiny they have afforded Boyd Barrett here. Furthermore its wrong to blame Starbucks, Apple, Google, et.al for tax avoidance, they are merely gaming a system established by the politicians. So if they are paying 1% tax it is because our politicians have allowed this to happen, all the while pretending they haven’t and its really because a bunch of tax accountants are smarter than them. Its pretty simple to write a law saying every company pays 12.5% Corp tax and if you try to pay less than this then Revenue will issue fines and penalties, just like they would with an individual under declaring tax. Fact of the matter is we are a tax haven but it is not in our interests to admit it. Everyone else in Europe is saying except for Irish politicians, its like the great unspoken elephant in the room.
Anyway all that aside I love my coffee but go out of my way to support independent coffee shops. I was reading last year how Ireland and Italy are unique in Europe in that the big coffee chains haven’t quite managed to get a grip of the market here in the same way they have in the US and UK where everything seems to be Starbucks and Costa Coffee, you just can’t get away from them over there and I’d never like to see Ireland go the same way. The Italians had a coffee culture long long before the Starbucks name was ever conceived so when they tried to get into the local market there they were basically laughed at.
gallantman
“Furthermore its wrong to blame Starbucks, Apple, Google, et.al for tax avoidance, they are merely gaming a system established by the politicians.”
Although, these politicians are funded and lobbied by these same corporations to ensure that they establish the system in a way that that allows taxes to be avoided. So do blame the Corporations then.
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I lived in Toronto in the 1990s and starbucks came in and set up literally next door to loads of local owned coffee shops, eventually driving them out of buisness. Starbucks aka Subway & MmcDonalds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkB_fexZIKQ
Manta Rae
Did he actually buy the coffee? Did the reporter, or whoever wrote the piece, witness RBB buying the beverage? If so, what did he buy? Did the barista write his name on the cup, as is their wont in Starbucks? If so, what name did he give? Richard? Rich? When did this event take place? Today? Last week? Did he take a sip as he walked towards Leinster House? If so, then it was obviously his drink but then again he may have been asked to buy a coffee for someone else? I could go on but this ‘story’ sums up the shoddy standards that prevail in Talbot St. With some extra detail, it could have been quite humourous.- a cheeky poke at Comrade Barret. But without the detail, the type of detail properly trained news reporters seldom ignore, it’s hard not to see it for what it is – a lazily written piece of garbage that was probably typed up by some internet monkey who is more used to copying and pasting crap from the internet as opposed to actually crafting an original story, however dumb that story may be…. Then again, it was probably written up by a crawly bumleg news exec who wouldn’t know a proper story if it was served to him in a cup with his/her name on it….
Hashtag Diversity
arsehole
JunkFace
Slow news day.
Jayzus
Hand Solo
This is even worse than the Shinner Dinner article they ran. For those of you unlucky enough to have read this pulitzer worthy article it was about a members of Sinn Fein who went out for dinner one night and ate something. This incredibly lame journalism championed by the likes of Fionnan Sheahan needs to called for what it is and the journalists and papers who run such stories should be shunned.
Hand Solo
*to have not read this pulitzer…………
gallantman
I think the reading was the unlucky part actually.
Rag.
The article could have been written by the average Broadsheet commentator. Yes, recognize yourselves, saddoes.
so true
I wonder does hashtag see the irony in their comment
Is Niamh Horan the writer of the piece?
Does she appear in the piece? No? Well, then she didn’t write it.
Touchy.
Authors name not on it. Why would she be in it?
In fairness, most of her articles are actually about herself, whatever else they masquerade as.
Oddly enough, they declined to put their name to this fantastic piece of journalism.
I think Tom Burke was the name attributed to this article.
People may dismiss this as a trifle, but it is not. Starbucks are massive coconuts on numerous counts, all of which fly directly in the face of what Barrett supposedly stands for.
And it’s not as if he didn’t have a choice: about 50% of Dublin is coffeeshops these days.
So you fell for it then.
What do you mean?
That’s all true, but it’s still not news.
The Indo also chose to report on how Boyd Barrett claimed his full travel expenses last year to fix his car. They neglected to investigate the other Dublin TDs’ expenses at all.
I dislike RBB, as he comes across as an odious toad most of the time, but this is a hatchet job, and a poor one at that.
maybe it’s a che latte?
Hold on. THAT WAS ACTUALLY GOOD
Do as I say, not as I do.
rather neither, thanks wayne
Wow the Indo really is full of cheap hacks scraping the barrel.
And in the next breath, they’ll be letting on to speak out for the average Joe.
I wish people would stop buying this piece of crud.
Link to independent article is broken.
This is the same Starbucks thats located in the former Anglo Irish Bank on the Green – STOP THE PRESS ! Who’s Vicki Vale!?!?
They forgot to mention that he’s also put on weight, how diddley dare he.
Maybe it’s a hot chocolate. With marshmallows.
frappuccino extra skinny I would say lilly
If he takes legal action he should make sure to hire a local barista
Very good.
Well done.
puntastic, mocha?
He’ll have to get a Cafe Sol–icitor first.
That was poor Lily. Very poor…
are you for coffee?
Are you inviting me for coffee Willy?
no, was directed at d2dweller but i was backing you up lilly:) try saying that phrase as all one word
Haha, that it was! The worst ones are the best.
no. while i hate to nitpick, they are not lilly
Yeah Lilly. It definitely isn’t
Ah well, we’re allowed to come in here & dribble useless puns all over the gaff. I’m not gonna apologise for a momentary lapse in brilliance ;)
haha hey never mind that coffee actually i want more:)
..other man wears green jumper story http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rory-mcilroy-and-the-wearing-of-the-green-jumper-30676848.html
Reminds me of this great television moment
http://youtu.be/3252FSW7OC4
She really isn’t the brightest.
What brand are his shoes?
Wait a second, you aren’t Jeremy Kyle at all!
Yes I am.
Suggestion Broadsheet,
Why not contrast in the post this piece of voter information with the glowing article about that famed humanitarian and general all-round perfect local TD Michael Lowry from a few weeks ago?
You are presupposing that Broadsheet attempts to be independent by providing balance in its news coverage or by investigating what is submitted to them.
What he’s suggesting would reinforce the point of this article, not provide your so-called balance. The Lowry article would prove that the Independent is an attack dog when it comes to left wing TD’s but soft-soaps anyone in the FG gene-pool, even those with findings made against them in a tribunal on corruption. Clearly it’s the ironically named Independent which has a problem with balance, and Broadsheet is dead right to highlight it.
+ 1913
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/10/01/theyre-smoking-top-gear/
A ffs would ye all just cop on.
When I’m grabbing a coffee I go to either the nearest one or the one without the Queue or the one where I’m due a freebie. How I vote has ūck all t’do wi’it
And AFAIK. Starbucks in Ireland is one of many franchise brands owned by the same local family, Butler(?) Milanos Mao TGI Fridays etc.
I’d be very surprised if they’re not stumping up locally. Mind you, I’m always open to correction.
+ one big shot of espresso
make mine a double!
EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE/ACTION YOU DO IS POLITICAL. THINK ABOUT WHO YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR THE NEXT TIME YOU SQUEEZE A SPOT.
No sickof, if you aren’t aware of something, then you can’t be proven guilty of it. Thus, you don’t have to take personal responsibility for doing it.
It’d be like me pointing a gun at a child, presuming it wasn’t loaded, pulling the trigger, and then being covered in brain splat. I can’t be charged with any crime, because I’m an ignorant moron. That’s the law, both in this country, and in the universe.
Oh dear, http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ocyuf
Just so you’re clear, you would be charged with manslaughter, with a potential life sentence.
Are you serious?
You’re wrong, Starbucks is not a franchise. All centrally owned.
You’re the one who is wrong, all Irish Starbucks stores are operated by the Butler brothers’ Entertainment Enterprises
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-brothers-to-take-over-management-of-all-27-starbucks-coffee-shops-in-ireland-168958966-237527481.html
An unhealthy vendor of bitterness and froth, raising the heart-rates of morons so its owner can live in tax-avoding splendour. Starbucks and the Indo are made for each other.
Mebbe he be recycling cups?
Part of me thinks this is nonsense, but I have to say I even avoid Starbucks myself, I have deliberately not gone in hundreds of times. Not saying you should be but if you are the type with a niggling social conscience Starbucks is one of those little things you can so easily opt out of. You can get a cup of coffee anywhere else. He does a lot of political trading on the back of his Socialist morals where as I don’t do any on mine. If I can avoid it why can’t he?
Maybe he’s going to do a Ming “The contents of this container is shite” speech and dare those in Daíl Eireann to drink it.
+1 I feel the same.
Surely this is one of the worst things an irish politician has ever done. I expect a corruption tribunal to assembled forthwith
Let them drink tae.
Well all I know is Gerry Adams and SF just breathed a big sigh of relief…..
Actually think it’s fair that this is reported, only problem is that they don’t do the same micro examination for right leaning politicians. If you campaign hard against large corporates and tax avoiders you shouldn’t be supporting them at the same time.
No, they do this for the right leaning politicians;
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/four-years-on-and-the-elusive-stig-is-revealed-as-independent-td-michael-lowry-30629352.html#sthash.5m6bcF5s.dpuf
Making this unfair.
It’s not unfair. They have their bias and have obligation to report in a balanced way!
dude, it’s only a fukn coffee.
I kind of lost interest in him when I found out he lives with his mammy, but yeah, another new low for the ‘Indo’.
Absolutely – the nerve of him thinking he might be able to represent our interests and him living with his mam.
What’s wrong with living with your mammy?
Well nothing really. But it’s hardly a good foundation for his whole “The minister doesn’t know how tough it is for real people on the ground” when he’s off home later to a mammy dinner.
Not gonna vote someone in who can’t even put a roof over his own head.
Bizarre logic
I agree though. No effectual adult male over the age of 22 lives with his mother. It screams dysfunction.
lol almost true
It might scream bad luck, or a previous bad choice of partner. . It can be a humbling experience when you have a bad patch yourself.. pride before a fall and all that :)
Probably not in this case though granted
How though?
I think it’s a fairly low bar to want to vote for representatives who can at least support themselves? And I don’t mean home ownership necessarily, but living with your folks when you’re earning and at that age is just a no-no.
I wouldn’t date a 40 year old living with his parents, why the hell would I vote for one?
you’d get a date with that sort of attitude?
+1
@ Janet — Yes, of course. I was thinking more of the sort of fella who has never managed to cut the apron strings, never left the nest or if he did, only for a short-lived flit.
Ah fair enough :)
you live with your mama?
coming home for Christmas though! should dispel rose tinted delusions of big fries in bed and all my clothes ironed. …
I agree with the general sentiment, its Boyd Barrets choice where he gets his coffee but jesus a bit of common sense lad, if you’re going to give out about tax avoidance then spending your money with tax avoiders isn’t exactly the way to go.
Either way this is an Indo hatchet job because we all know they dont and won’t give politicans on the right the same scrutiny they have afforded Boyd Barrett here. Furthermore its wrong to blame Starbucks, Apple, Google, et.al for tax avoidance, they are merely gaming a system established by the politicians. So if they are paying 1% tax it is because our politicians have allowed this to happen, all the while pretending they haven’t and its really because a bunch of tax accountants are smarter than them. Its pretty simple to write a law saying every company pays 12.5% Corp tax and if you try to pay less than this then Revenue will issue fines and penalties, just like they would with an individual under declaring tax. Fact of the matter is we are a tax haven but it is not in our interests to admit it. Everyone else in Europe is saying except for Irish politicians, its like the great unspoken elephant in the room.
Anyway all that aside I love my coffee but go out of my way to support independent coffee shops. I was reading last year how Ireland and Italy are unique in Europe in that the big coffee chains haven’t quite managed to get a grip of the market here in the same way they have in the US and UK where everything seems to be Starbucks and Costa Coffee, you just can’t get away from them over there and I’d never like to see Ireland go the same way. The Italians had a coffee culture long long before the Starbucks name was ever conceived so when they tried to get into the local market there they were basically laughed at.
“Furthermore its wrong to blame Starbucks, Apple, Google, et.al for tax avoidance, they are merely gaming a system established by the politicians.”
Although, these politicians are funded and lobbied by these same corporations to ensure that they establish the system in a way that that allows taxes to be avoided. So do blame the Corporations then.
I lived in Toronto in the 1990s and starbucks came in and set up literally next door to loads of local owned coffee shops, eventually driving them out of buisness. Starbucks aka Subway & MmcDonalds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkB_fexZIKQ
Did he actually buy the coffee? Did the reporter, or whoever wrote the piece, witness RBB buying the beverage? If so, what did he buy? Did the barista write his name on the cup, as is their wont in Starbucks? If so, what name did he give? Richard? Rich? When did this event take place? Today? Last week? Did he take a sip as he walked towards Leinster House? If so, then it was obviously his drink but then again he may have been asked to buy a coffee for someone else? I could go on but this ‘story’ sums up the shoddy standards that prevail in Talbot St. With some extra detail, it could have been quite humourous.- a cheeky poke at Comrade Barret. But without the detail, the type of detail properly trained news reporters seldom ignore, it’s hard not to see it for what it is – a lazily written piece of garbage that was probably typed up by some internet monkey who is more used to copying and pasting crap from the internet as opposed to actually crafting an original story, however dumb that story may be…. Then again, it was probably written up by a crawly bumleg news exec who wouldn’t know a proper story if it was served to him in a cup with his/her name on it….
arsehole
Slow news day.
Jayzus
This is even worse than the Shinner Dinner article they ran. For those of you unlucky enough to have read this pulitzer worthy article it was about a members of Sinn Fein who went out for dinner one night and ate something. This incredibly lame journalism championed by the likes of Fionnan Sheahan needs to called for what it is and the journalists and papers who run such stories should be shunned.
*to have not read this pulitzer…………
I think the reading was the unlucky part actually.
if the cappucino fits, wear it
heh :)