Damn place was infested with INLA snipers and ISIS supporters the last time.
Mé Féin
Every one of them. Water thugs, the lot of them. A disgrace. Up from Tipperary saying fierce stupid shite … oh wait …
Jess
And everyone of them holding mirrors to make their number look bigger
Well that's that
I’m glad that by protesting the water charges the protesters are causing huge extra costs for the installation of water meters to the taxpayer. How much does it cost to have that many Gardai observer workmen work?
Protest the principle, not the action. Incurring more costs for unnecessary security is stupid. Let them install the water meters, the charge will be struck off and the meters will sit in the ground.
CousinJack
School rush?
Soundings
If it costs €540m to install 1.1m meters or around €500 per meter installed, then, are these meter thingamajigs worth anything? The meter will be only part of the cost, I know, but am hugely surprised that something that’s probably worth, what? €50-100? is left so unprotected in the ground where it can be easily removed, as demonstrated on youtube.
Given the number of ghost estates stripped of their copper and pipes, given the number of clothes banks raided by our Accession friends, I’m most impressed that these meters aren’t being exported in bulk.
Just another way of GMC/Denis O’Brien to charge the government even more money for an unwanted service. They send out 3 times more vans and people than they need, im guessing they’ll be sent home by the angry protesters in just enough time for the company to charge for a full days work…. big business guy makes a killing at our expense, again
Soundings
Very good point Jimmy, is the €540m charge for installing the 1.1m meters dependant on GMC being able to complete the work without disruption from protesters. Might that cost spiral? Can’t imagine GMC will pick up the cost for its staff to sit in their vans.
Fe Dlowered
This is all getting quite boring now. Pack of clueless gombeens “protesting” about the installation of something that currently makes sweet FA of a difference to what you’ll pay for water.
And since when is anywhere in Coolock “Middle Class”?
phil
you do remember that this is a Republic, and citizens wherever they are from are afforded the same rights benifits and responsibilities as you are …
Now Ill grant you the idea that some citizens my not be living up to their responsibilities as citizens but there is no need to turn that argument into a class issue …
Fe Dlowered
I didn’t turn it into a class issue. It started with the comment in the tweet that said “middle class estate”. Since that seemed important to the tweeter and the poster of this “story” I felt compelled to reference it.
While this probably makes me sounds like a complete snob, this is possibly the first time I have heard of anywhere in Coolock being described as middle class in a non-satirical way.
Considering that just over 22% of Irish workers are on subsistence wages (ie – on the edge of poverty) according to the OECD, coupled with the numbers unemployed…. there’s not much of a middle left, and it too is moving to the lower end of the earnings scale…. IMO.
Bobby
I’m from Coolock and agree with you, for what it’s worth. It’s not middle class, and most here would be very proud of that fact.
Spaghetti Hoop
Interesting. Is your idea of middle class different than Joan Byrne’s? Perhaps the term needs some definition if it’s to be bandied around on the interwebs. I mean, who exactly constitutes an ‘upper class’ in a republic such as ours with no aristocracy or titles? Sounds like a label of convenience and of prejudice to me – and the people purporting it are overly-convcerned with judging folk simply by their gaff or what school they went to.
Fergalito
It does make you sound like a snob and clearly shows a bias based on stereotypes rather than any clear understanding. It also shows how easy it is to make cheap, lazy remarks regardless of how you perceive they will sound.
Just another day on the internet i guess.
Rep
You are showing your bias by thinking I mean anything negative by my remark. I never said there way anything wrong with Coolock, merely that I have never heard of it being called middle-class. You inferred from this that I was being negative about it. It also shows how easy it is to make cheap, lazy assumptions based on your own bias.
Because most of the time these days its used as a glorifying euphemism for working class people.
Fe Dlowered
I’m not sure that the frequent use of the term “Ordinary” by people like Joe Higgins, Paul Murphy, Pearse Doherty and Clare Daly is intended to be “glorifying”. The socialists need the Ordinary people to stay Ordinary and for more people to consider themselves as Ordinary or they’ll lose votes.
Depends who you ask. Paul Murphy et al can’t be accused of being reasonable but they’re certainly ordinary in every sense of the word.
Kieran NYC
+ decent
andyourpointiswhatexactly
Why do you keep initial capping ordinary? No need for it.
andyourpointiswhatexactly
Balls. That was aimed at Fe Dlowered.
Todd
I look forward to the day Sinn Fein are in power and you’ll be kneecapped for not paying.
Eugene Connolly
I have been on both main marches which felt really empowering & genuinely communal (just to say..). I passed this convoy of vans & equipment this morning on my way to a funeral. There must have been at least 20 vehicles in a line parked outside the estate, I’ve never seen anything like it! Really oppressive vibe about it, totalitarian vibe, horribly intimidating. I still feel a bit sick in my stomach thinking about it, not quite the panzers rolling into Warzaw but everything is relative. Where’s Milan Kundera when you need him. Or Roddy Doyle, Dermot Bolger or even Joe O’Connor? We need a poetic voice to witness this NOW! Rant over(rolls up in foetal ball).
The Insight
Who was doing the intimidating? The lads sitting in their vans just wanting to do their jobs or the protesters who were a mix of locals and rent a mob eirigi types.
Eugene Connolly
The ones in the panzer tanks by virtue of sheer heavy metal
Eugene Connolly
The panzer division by sheer weight of their heavy metal.
One Dub
The lads sitting in their vans…the protesters who were a mix of locals and rent a mob eirigi types. (sic)
I think it’s usually the Gardaí, but the Éirigí crowd aren’t much better in fairness.
Jarvis
Watching the telly earlier , Nicola Curry said the protesters get on great with the GMC/SIERRA meter installers , giving them tea and
toast in the estates ,,, next month , ,,,if the protesters pay taxes they will be paying for the dole money for the installers as they get paid per meter fit , no fits , no wages = dole
Wait a minute, you seem to think like a Fianna Fáil supporter.
(I mean that in a ‘retarded backwards’ sense, and nothing to do with the wonderful brand new party of gobshites who populate Fianna Fáil nowadays, because they’re a completely different shower of old men.
I’m not affiliated with ANY political party. I hate them ALL equally.
Brian
Private vehicles blocking bus lanes should be fined €40 each. 26 vehicles would easily pay for the Garda overtime……………….€1,040.
One would expect the workers to have some dignity and resign.
I would genuinely like to know how many protesting are actually from the area, and only then can you say there’s large resistance from Woodlawn.
apparently there was only 4 protesters there when GMC arrived
I would genuinely like to know how many protesting in Jobstown are actually from Jobstown.
Yup!
Damn place was infested with INLA snipers and ISIS supporters the last time.
Every one of them. Water thugs, the lot of them. A disgrace. Up from Tipperary saying fierce stupid shite … oh wait …
And everyone of them holding mirrors to make their number look bigger
I’m glad that by protesting the water charges the protesters are causing huge extra costs for the installation of water meters to the taxpayer. How much does it cost to have that many Gardai observer workmen work?
Protest the principle, not the action. Incurring more costs for unnecessary security is stupid. Let them install the water meters, the charge will be struck off and the meters will sit in the ground.
School rush?
If it costs €540m to install 1.1m meters or around €500 per meter installed, then, are these meter thingamajigs worth anything? The meter will be only part of the cost, I know, but am hugely surprised that something that’s probably worth, what? €50-100? is left so unprotected in the ground where it can be easily removed, as demonstrated on youtube.
Given the number of ghost estates stripped of their copper and pipes, given the number of clothes banks raided by our Accession friends, I’m most impressed that these meters aren’t being exported in bulk.
your mates sound horrible
Just another way of GMC/Denis O’Brien to charge the government even more money for an unwanted service. They send out 3 times more vans and people than they need, im guessing they’ll be sent home by the angry protesters in just enough time for the company to charge for a full days work…. big business guy makes a killing at our expense, again
Very good point Jimmy, is the €540m charge for installing the 1.1m meters dependant on GMC being able to complete the work without disruption from protesters. Might that cost spiral? Can’t imagine GMC will pick up the cost for its staff to sit in their vans.
This is all getting quite boring now. Pack of clueless gombeens “protesting” about the installation of something that currently makes sweet FA of a difference to what you’ll pay for water.
And since when is anywhere in Coolock “Middle Class”?
you do remember that this is a Republic, and citizens wherever they are from are afforded the same rights benifits and responsibilities as you are …
Now Ill grant you the idea that some citizens my not be living up to their responsibilities as citizens but there is no need to turn that argument into a class issue …
I didn’t turn it into a class issue. It started with the comment in the tweet that said “middle class estate”. Since that seemed important to the tweeter and the poster of this “story” I felt compelled to reference it.
Yup!
@Phil, if this was a barely functional republic that would be true, but alas it is not
Since your ma left.
Not to worry. All those chemtrails will take care of the middle class in no time.
éirígí send in the troops…
https://www.facebook.com/pages/%C3%A9ir%C3%ADg%C3%AD/246143775398047?sk=photos_stream
ugh. wish they’d stay out of things. they make everyone else at protests uneasy.
Totally agree…shit stirrers.
I’ll have to make a sign saying “Fupp Off Out Of Our Water Protest Éirigí”
Don’t, you’ll be kicked to … great idea, one of your best.
Hah ! :)
I might
Shin Shinners
While this probably makes me sounds like a complete snob, this is possibly the first time I have heard of anywhere in Coolock being described as middle class in a non-satirical way.
youre dead right….
you do sound like a complete snob
Considering that just over 22% of Irish workers are on subsistence wages (ie – on the edge of poverty) according to the OECD, coupled with the numbers unemployed…. there’s not much of a middle left, and it too is moving to the lower end of the earnings scale…. IMO.
I’m from Coolock and agree with you, for what it’s worth. It’s not middle class, and most here would be very proud of that fact.
Interesting. Is your idea of middle class different than Joan Byrne’s? Perhaps the term needs some definition if it’s to be bandied around on the interwebs. I mean, who exactly constitutes an ‘upper class’ in a republic such as ours with no aristocracy or titles? Sounds like a label of convenience and of prejudice to me – and the people purporting it are overly-convcerned with judging folk simply by their gaff or what school they went to.
It does make you sound like a snob and clearly shows a bias based on stereotypes rather than any clear understanding. It also shows how easy it is to make cheap, lazy remarks regardless of how you perceive they will sound.
Just another day on the internet i guess.
You are showing your bias by thinking I mean anything negative by my remark. I never said there way anything wrong with Coolock, merely that I have never heard of it being called middle-class. You inferred from this that I was being negative about it. It also shows how easy it is to make cheap, lazy assumptions based on your own bias.
Good man ! :)
I always thought Woodlawn was Santry.
Me too, had to check the map. Possibly legit, if Oak (west of M50) and Lorcan/Castletimon (south of R104) are the boundaries.
Just an Ordinary Day in an Ordinary part of Dublin populated by Ordinary people. All sounds quite Ordinary to me.
See how offensive and derogatory that term can sound?
…eh…. no…..
Are you seriously suggesting that ‘ordinary’ is somehow offensive AND derogatory?
or…. are you being sarcastic or wha?
That’s a very Ordinary reply
that top youve got on is fierce ordinary hun
So… it’s not sarcasm….? …you need help kid.
I guess its all relative.
Because most of the time these days its used as a glorifying euphemism for working class people.
I’m not sure that the frequent use of the term “Ordinary” by people like Joe Higgins, Paul Murphy, Pearse Doherty and Clare Daly is intended to be “glorifying”. The socialists need the Ordinary people to stay Ordinary and for more people to consider themselves as Ordinary or they’ll lose votes.
is ORDINARY the same as REASONABLE?
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/noonan-we-govern-for-the-reasonable-people-651323.html
Depends who you ask. Paul Murphy et al can’t be accused of being reasonable but they’re certainly ordinary in every sense of the word.
+ decent
Why do you keep initial capping ordinary? No need for it.
Balls. That was aimed at Fe Dlowered.
I look forward to the day Sinn Fein are in power and you’ll be kneecapped for not paying.
I have been on both main marches which felt really empowering & genuinely communal (just to say..). I passed this convoy of vans & equipment this morning on my way to a funeral. There must have been at least 20 vehicles in a line parked outside the estate, I’ve never seen anything like it! Really oppressive vibe about it, totalitarian vibe, horribly intimidating. I still feel a bit sick in my stomach thinking about it, not quite the panzers rolling into Warzaw but everything is relative. Where’s Milan Kundera when you need him. Or Roddy Doyle, Dermot Bolger or even Joe O’Connor? We need a poetic voice to witness this NOW! Rant over(rolls up in foetal ball).
Who was doing the intimidating? The lads sitting in their vans just wanting to do their jobs or the protesters who were a mix of locals and rent a mob eirigi types.
The ones in the panzer tanks by virtue of sheer heavy metal
The panzer division by sheer weight of their heavy metal.
The lads sitting in their vans…the protesters who were a mix of locals and rent a mob eirigi types. (sic)
I think it’s usually the Gardaí, but the Éirigí crowd aren’t much better in fairness.
Watching the telly earlier , Nicola Curry said the protesters get on great with the GMC/SIERRA meter installers , giving them tea and
toast in the estates ,,, next month , ,,,if the protesters pay taxes they will be paying for the dole money for the installers as they get paid per meter fit , no fits , no wages = dole
Yeah, meter-fitting is a job-for-life, just like being on the dole.
Let me guess…eh…
Fine Gael?
No, no, I mean Labour.
Wait a minute, you seem to think like a Fianna Fáil supporter.
(I mean that in a ‘retarded backwards’ sense, and nothing to do with the wonderful brand new party of gobshites who populate Fianna Fáil nowadays, because they’re a completely different shower of old men.
I’m not affiliated with ANY political party. I hate them ALL equally.
Private vehicles blocking bus lanes should be fined €40 each. 26 vehicles would easily pay for the Garda overtime……………….€1,040.
One would expect the workers to have some dignity and resign.