Clayton Samuel (with cap) with his mother and brothers including Ramesh (second right)
It’s a tough one.
Clayton Samuel writes:
Can any of your readers helper or advise me? I wanted my brother Ramesh to come over to Ireland to visit during Christmas holidays so we could celebrate Christmas together. My brother Ramesh works in Dubai UAE . He is a chef and he has been working in Dubai for last 4 years.
Just to give you a little bit of background, I have three elder brothers I am the youngest. I am an Irish Citizen ( Indian Origin ) I have been living in Ireland for the last nine years with my wife and my only son David.
My two elder brothers ( Ravi & Ramesh Samuel) who work in Dubai are Indian passport holders and my third Brother Prathap Samuel he lives in UK he is a UK passport holder. I asked Ramesh to apply for a visit visa just to come over to Ireland for Christmas holidays as we hardly we see each other or have a full family get-together due to the work and the distance. I also sent in supporting documents from Ireland to support his visa application.
His Visit visa was refused by the visa officer’s perception that :
(1) He may not return to Dubai
(2) He may branch into UK.
(5) His Income is not high enough that he can afford to come to Ireland.We have appealed in writing to the Visa officer in Dubai. I have explained that my wife and I are sponsoring my Brother. I own house Sallins, I am a Bank official and my wife is working for the HSE. We are fully employed and income tax payers in Ireland. In this case Ramesh is going to live with me in my family home free of cost including his flight tickets, meals and transportation will be provided free of cost. I have also given in writing in my appeal letter that if my brother has to present himself on a regular basis to the Immigration officer in Naas Garda station we are more than happy to do this.
It’s eight days since we appealed the refusal. Can anyone suggest what course of action I might take?
Anyone?
Irish Immigration is as racist as hell.
I dunno about that. I think our immigration system is just tougher than we’d normally think it was. I mean most of our experience is with asylum seekers and EU citizens?
I worked with an American guy in a pub a few years ago. He was discovered to have outstayed his visa and got deported.
Yes. Ireland deports illegal Americans.
Why on earth would this guy be an Irish citizen?
Shatter is the greatest traitor Ireland has ever seen.
I know right?! His skin’s not even semi-pallid!
How do we go about cancelling your citizenship?
Sure why spend the money on the paperwork? Summary execution is clearly the way to go.
Please, elaborate. (Or change your attitude so it’s not racist anymore)
Hey Moan…I know who I’d prefer to have as a fellow – citizen
What’s your problem exactly??
Your name says it all MOAN!! There is nothing else you can do except moan… wahhhhhh
The reason he has an Irish citizenship because of scumbags like you can’t work or wont work .
I am sure you don’t have a brain inside maybe only cabbage … LOL
Don’t mean to come across as unkind (and I hope this gets resolved for you in time for Christmas) but my advice would be apply a little earlier next year – with this sort of thing, eight days is nothing. You’ll be lucky to get an answer withing eight weeks.
In fairness, he’s an Irish citizen. He shouldn’t have to go through all this to see his brother at Christmas.
Contact your local TD and see what she can do for ya. http://www.catherinemurphy.ie/?page_id=2993 I think is your TD. Go to citizens information they might point you in the right direction also.
This.
If you’re a bank official and your wife works for the HSE and you own a house in the local area, your TD will jump at the chance to pull a few strings.
We’re a great little country..
You have 4 local TD’s. Try them all..
http://www.sallins4u.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=64%3Aour-local-tds-kildare-north&Itemid=&catid=77%3A
I wish I knew, good luck getting the family together for Christmas, hope it works out for you all !
+1
“We have appealed in writing to the Visa officer in Dubai. – How come you are appealing to a visa officer in Dubai? I would have thought the person who makes this sort of decision, is from Ireland.
Best of luck by the way. (Go with the TD)
You get a work visa for the US from the US embassy here don’t you? There’s an Irish embassy in Dubai.
Yeah – I thought about that after I typed it.
Odis is correct. While all initial applications go to the nearest Irish Embassy/Consulate, all APPEALS are dealt with in Dublin.
Fair enough!
I noticed a picture of the Sacred Heart and Mary on the wall there behind you. Emphasise that more and civil service Bridie will have the visa issued before her eleven o’clock tea and custard cream break tomorrow morning.
Clayton, please come into the Migrant Rights Centre Ireland, 37 Dame St Dublin 2, open Mon, Tues, Thursday – 10am to 4pm and we can provide you with further assistance. Edel
I think this is the only reply worth reading tbh
Yeah I kind of regret commenting now that I’ve read this. Fair dues.
If you can put yourself personally in front of someone that will save you a lot of time – everything in writing just takes forever in these processes. A real-live person has a tendency to be able to cut through the red-tape. Best of luck to you all anyway and have a happy Christmas no matter what happens!
Basically what I’m saying is to go into the embassy in Dublin yourself; hopefully someone could expedite it there. http://www.uae-embassy.ae/Embassies/ie/
Why would he go the UAE’s embassy in Dublin? What do they have to do with it? The trip is to ireland not the UAE….
Why do all your brothers look severely pissed off in that picture?
Here’s what ya do Clayton.
Book flights to Dubai
And spend Christmas and New Year there
BTW. Are you named after the lad on Dallas?
Grand singer he was.
Plenty of Fat Irish chicks on the game, looking for husband. Give him a GAA jersey and sent him to Copperface Jacks.
What county jersey do you suggest?
New York
Hope your brother gets to come over let’s us know how yis get on.
Tell your brother to go here, an hours drive from Dubai:
Embassy of Ireland
2 Khalifa Al Suwaidi Development
Road 19 off 32nd Street
Al Bateen
P.O. Box 61581
Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirates
Ph: +971 (0)2 4958200
Fax: +971 (0)2 6819233
Embassy Ramadam
Public Office Hours:
Sun-Thu 09:30 – 13:00
the problem as you are saying lies with the immigration in dubai, is that correct?, if so then has he tried getting a cheap jet airways flight to india and then from there going to ireland via India Qatar, obviously the same route needs to be used on the way back, if he works for a reputable hotel in dubai has he tried getting an approval letter from them
‘Could also try Derek Mooney
My partner is not Irish and not from the EU. Trying to sort out visas brings a terrible mind field of poor websites, lengthy documents and scammers. There are also limited phone numbers available, and the few times you get to speak to someone they tend not to have a clue what you are on about. And yes, Irish boarder control is actually quite intense, they just don’t have a show about it.
Some thoughts, perhaps of use.
Issue 1. – Does he have anything in Dubai that would support his return (eg. Kids or property).
Issue 2. – No idea how to resolve this. UK boarder control by ferry is non-existent. Perhaps detail you have no family in the UK and revert back to issue 1 reasons.
Issue 5. – Transfer money into his account (say 2000, if you have it) and get him to send a bank statement to show he has the money to support himself, then also detail he will have no costs while here etc.
Sadly, no useful facts for you, just thoughts and empathy. Hope it works out for you.
Get in touch with your local TD, they can make a submission. We Irish often like to complain about nasty string pulling politics but aren’t shy about using it when it suits us.