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A meeting between the Grangegorman squatters and their neighbours.

Seán Fitzpatrick writes:

A conference with the residents of Grangegorman squat and their neighbors. It shows solidarity between the members of community, and the squatters. The space is foundation of culture, charity, and science and should not be dismissed by the authorities.

Previously: More Than Meets The Eye

See How Their Garden Grows

Meanwhile, In Grangegorman

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37 thoughts on “Squatcast

  1. Blublu

    Anyone want to give me a refresher on this? Why are they being kicked out? Was it private land they were occupying and was then sold?

  2. BenTen

    Yup, it was left derelict for a couple of years, the lads moved in.

    Now it looks like the owner wants to develop the land, and they don’t want to leave.

    1. p

      I get it, if it’s not being used and is sitting idle then it’s great to see it being put to use, but if somebody is developing, or it has been sold and somebody now wants to do something with the property, get out!

      1. scottser

        in most places in europe, if you want to evict a squat then you need a court order. settlement is usually reached and compensation offered. most european states frown on a property owner leaving a site derelict. if the owner wants to sell a squatted property they must disclose it is occupied and this must be reflected in the price.

        1. Paolo

          That’s not entirely true … is it? Squats have to exist for a minimum period and the squatters must be able to demonstrate that they have maintained the property. The same is true in Ireland. If you wish to file for adverse possession then you must demonstrate that you have maintained the property for a minimum of, I think, 10 years.

          1. scottser

            squatters rights varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction across europe paolo, i wasn’t talking specifically about ireland. you are correct that adverse posession kicks in after 12 years if the exclusion of all other parties has been established.

    2. lefty doherty

      To clarify — the owner is NALM (a wholly owned subsidiary of NAMA). NAMA has appointed Ernst & Young as receiver, basically responsible for selling the property to a developer.

      1. declan

        Oops, replied on the wrong thread

        Nope – I can’t stream anything from where I’m at : ( Have they found the God particle or what???

  3. declan

    Nope – I can’t stream anything from where I’m at : ( Have they found the God particle or what???

    1. declan

      I only just listened to all of it. It was interesting to hear another point of view on the whole thing and it did a lot to humanise the situation.

      They do make a lot of good points re kids, open spaces, workshops and alternative uses of spaces however I’d question the “them versus us attitude” (eg. newspapers not reporting on it beforehand – newspapers report whats the news – Grangegorman may have gotten in only if it was in the Sat/Sun magazine section to be fair)

      Essentially, it’s a culture shock between two different views of the world, some people prefer the squat/community angle and others property/ownership model. Ireland as a whole isn’t a squat friendly place so I don’t think this will last however I think the attitude they took to the end to move on and try something else was the right one.

      Either way I enjoyed it, well done and I understood where you got the science angle so don’t worry.

  4. rotide

    I have no intention of listening to that, but does someone want to justify this ‘science’ thing?

    Is it Circus related?

    1. Wayne.F

      It’s an experiment to see how long they can get free electricity and other utilities without paying

  5. Custo

    I’ve been up there. It honks of grass and it’s a fupping deathtrap. When the warehouse roof falls down on the head of some skunk addled trustifarian, we’ll see if they try to claim compo from the owners.

    The drug squad should knock on their door and they’d scarper fairly quick like.

  6. Pale Blue Dot Cotton

    Fair play to them and all that jazz but they turned someone else’s site into their home. Now That somebody else wants it back and they think a social media campaign should favour them over its legal owner?

    I’m all for a bit of free spirit thinking but any crusty I’ve met over the years rarely stays put in the one spot for too long. New protests to attend, kids, trust fund running out etc etc, and they’re gone to their next roof. Are they promising a steady flow of tenants that’s willing to keep it going? They’ve rejuvenated a space but it’s someone else’s space.

      1. Paolo

        It’s not really anyone’s way. Property rights are a significant part of society. Without property rights then we have anarchy. You’ll come home to find someone in your house and the doors barred.

        1. Nigel

          The existence of squatter’s rights shows that property rights are not completely sacrosanct. Given the sheer quantity of derelict sites around the country, I’m surprised this hasn’t become an issue sooner, or that it isn’t more of an issue.

  7. Joe the Lion

    I’m sad reading comments on this realising how bitter and jaded many of you are. I realise life is tough for many at the moment but many of you seem to object to is the premise that is others have the balls to challenge heterodoxy – seeing folks challenge prevailing norms even if in a misguided obviously hits very hard to the bone with thumbsucking so called liberals.

    1. PPads

      There is a venue right across from the Central Bank which markets itself as being “alternative” and proactively supported the Dame Street sit in. Several of those ‘collective members’ are also part owners in the actual building as well as the business oddly enough. Cynical? No… just factual.

  8. Paolo

    They are stealing someone else’s property. Simple as that. Get out and pay your way like the rest of us please.

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