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Scenes from the Irish Water protest at Fingal County Council this evening.

Top pic: Ciaran Bolger

Bottom pic: Dublin Says No

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185 thoughts on “‘He Said I Did It To Myself’

  1. Digs

    She was obstructing the revolving door. They can’t work unless they revolve…. Silly sausage.

    1. Paolo

      She has an absolute right to disrupt other people in their work. She should never be challenged and she should get free stuff.

  2. WOD

    A good glancing blow with the night stick is all these fepping protestors understand! She should be made pay for that door ( and for her water )

    1. 15 cents

      water protesters have already succeeded in lowering the water charge for everyone .. inculding undeserving, heartless morons like you. so why are you so against them protesting? why are you so eager to have another bill to pay? especially a needless one .. one that was just set up as a cash cow

      1. Paolo

        Should water have no value?
        Should people just continue to waste water as they are doing?
        Is it wrong that people treat their water like they do their heating and lighting?

        1. Joe Dolan

          GWAN the paolo. Actually the single most coherent post Iv seen in 84 years of posts on this topic…

  3. Praetorian.

    The associated video shows heavy handed Garda force with the expected snide remarks from said Garda.

    1. Jackdaw

      Ah no it doesn’t. It shows a pack of grade A tits getting caught in a door. Morons complete and utter morons

    2. B Hewson

      She was sitting their minding her own business and they just opened fire at her. Heartless. I heard some of the guards trained with ISIS and kill on command.

    3. Wayne.F

      It also fails to show protesters breaching an outer cordon and ignoring lawful instructions from Gardai before obstructing the door

    1. 15 cents

      do you love that you have an extra bill to pay? is it great? if you like extra bills so much, just let me know, i can make one up for air, and charge you quarterly

      1. TheDude

        Can I have the CEO role? I have experience in spending CM on an invisible incinerator, privatised refuse to a few acquaintances, currently managing a frankenstein H2O company about to implode, very good at jobs for the boys too.

      2. Topcat

        Last time I took a breath , as far as i remember no one had to capture it and store it, purify and treat it and then pump it to me for me to use. When i did need oxygen when i was undergoing a medical procedure i paid for it.

          1. Topcat

            Only needed it once so paid once. If i need it again I expect to pay – simples. Comparing Air and water is not clever for the reasons I mentioned in my post .

  4. Jessica Carroll

    These women should be ashamed of themselves. What sort of behavior will this provide to young children?
    These women are irresponsible selfish human beings.
    These protestors need to be taken aside and shown how to hold a mobile phone whilst using the video-recording functionality, it’s landscape.

    [Bonus joke:
    Question: Why did the anti-water protestors should ‘Call an ambulance! Call an ambulance!’?
    Answer: Because they were too busy filming themselves in portrait mode.

  5. munkifisht

    Amazing. Something like this happens in the States and everyone wonders how the cops are so out of control. Something like this happens in Ireland and every says the stupid woman shouldn’t be blocking the door citing fire hazards or some other lame excuse. F**kin patethic.

    1. realPolithicks

      People on this website and Ireland in general seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of civil disobedience.

      1. ahno

        Concept is only acceptable if you have the right look, ie French protestor, oui bien sur. Peroxide blonde with a mouth to rival a fishwife, doesn’t shout civil disobedience, merely a Shinner on the make.

      2. ReproBertie

        People who engage in civil disobedience at water protests in Ireland seem to be unfamiliar with the concept of consequences.

        1. Zuppy International

          So it’s ok for the Gardaí to kick people? And it’s ok for the Gardaí to behave so recklessly that they damage public property and lacerate the face of a woman? Are these the consequences you seek?

          1. Topcat

            Is it OK for people to ignore the instructions of the Gardai and to then abuse and assault them? in my opinion no, unless of course you have ulterior motives and are trying to undermine the democratic system.

            She is entitled to protest peacefully but chose not to be peaceful. Invading someones workspace and blocking the entrance to the workplace is not peaceful protest it is Thuggery. For every action there is a consequence.

          2. Zuppy International

            So for being a nuisance and refusing to have an ineffective invisible protest the Gardaí have the right to kick you? Who are the real thugs?

          3. ReproBertie

            The gardaí didn’t break the window. The protestors preventing them from opening it did. Fake garda brutality is fake.

            Hypothetical situation: A protestor blocks access to somewhere. A garda arrives and tells the protestors to stop obstructing the access. The protestor refuses. What action should the garda take?

          4. Zuppy International

            The first thing the Gardaí should do is remember that they have no right to take any action that will cause injury or harm.

          5. ReproBertie

            If the gardaí have no right to take any action that will cause injury or harm why do we provide them with batons and pepper spray? Clearly in equipping them in this way we are granting them the right to cause injury or harm when necessary.

          6. Zuppy International

            The Gardaí are not above the law no matter how much some of them might like to think so. They have no right to use assault weapons against unarmed people who present no threat to them or anyone else.

            Just cos Blueshirt policy is to treat the people like cattle to be demeaned, degraded and exploited at every opportunity does not make these actions right, just or lawful.

            But in your world might is right so f**k the law and all those who oppose the tyranny of the state. Ireland Inc, where we batter all effective opposition into submission with batons and pepper spray thanks to a stupefied media, a dumbed down police force and a corrupt political class who don’t know their arse from their elbow, but always know which side of their corporate bread is buttered.

            Batter me Bertie, you know you want to.

          7. ReproBertie

            You are absolutely correct, the gardaí are not above the law. That being the case when gardaí are required to use their pepper spray or baton to achieve a lawful objective (including protection of themselves, others, property, the prevention of a crime or breach of the peace) the use has to be in line with sections 18, 19 and 20 of the non-fatal offences against the person act 1997.

            None of that (nor your unfounded paranoid rant about blueshirts and corporate politicians nor indeed your erroneous statement on my opinion on the law) changes the simple truth that we armed the gardaí with a baton and a cannister of pepper spray to assist them in carrying out their duty. We, the flesh and blood people of Ireland (I know you like that freeman gobblydegook), gave them this equipment because we recognised that there would be times when they needed to use them meaning we recognised that there would be times when their actions might lead to injury or harm.

            Back to my hypothetical question. What action should the garda take?

          8. Zuppy International

            In case you missed it:

            “The first thing the Gardaí should do is remember that they have no right to take any action that will cause injury or harm.”

            BTW we didn’t give the Gardaí weapons the state did. Are you now claiming that the Gardaí are an offensive force entitled to use these weapons at will in order to attack people who are not committing any crime and when the officers of the state deem it acceptable to do so in order to protect their policy of theft?

          9. ReproBertie

            No I’m not claiming that.

            We, the flesh and blood people of Ireland, are the state.

            I didn’t miss that response but it’s entirely incorrect. Repeating it won’t make it correct.

            No doubt in the Freeman Ireland criminals (and of course in Freeman Ireland a crime is only a crime if a flesh and blood person is harmed and I’d love to know how you square that with your paranoid belief in a “policy of theft”) would happily walk to the local authority and willingly submit to whatever punishment is deemed necessary. In the real world criminals tend to need more than a polite invitation so the gardaí are empowered, within the law, to take actions that may cause injury or harm.

          10. ReproBertie

            Oh please. That he was dropped is clearly accidental and caused by his thrashing limbs as much as anything else. Once they realise their mistake the gardaí spend the rest of the video looking after his safety while the protestors do all they can to obstruct and abuse them.

            Imaginary brutality is imaginary.

          11. Zuppy International

            So according to you the Gardaí, as agents of the state, now have the right and the duty to attack any non-compliant members of the public. Thus any injury or harm caused is never the responsibility of the Gardaí who are obviously incapable of doing any wrong.

            When the state stands to brutalise the people it is supposed to serve in order to protect and further corporate advantage, that’s fascism.

            Edna must be so proud.

          12. ReproBertie

            Once again I type words and you ignore them to make something up instead because that’s easier than admitting I’m right and the gardaí are entitled to use force when necessary.

            Of course civilians are also, under the same sections of the non fatal offences against the person act, entitled to use force and for the same reasons.

            The thing you are deliberatey ignoring is that the use (as I said 3 posts ago) has to be in line with sections 18, 19 and 20 of the non-fatal offences against the person act (1997). You’d prefer to ignore that irritating fact about the use of force being subject to the law in order to throw out exaggerated fear-mongering nonsense about offensive forces attacking non-compliant citizens.

            You clearly believe that the movements of the citizens of the state should be secondary to the right of lone protestors to obstruct those movements (despite this being an offence under section 9 of the Criminal Justice (Public Order) Act 1994. Your entire suggestion for garda action when a protestor refuses to obey a garda direction (an offence under section 8 of the same public order act) is for the garda to go and meditate on their role and responsibilities.

          13. ReproBertie

            Your “logical conclusion” is based on your imagined version of my opinion.

            Total anarchy leading to the breakdown of civil society seems to be the logical conclusion to draw from your stance that the gardaí have no powers to do anything other than suggest firmly. If that’s your Freeman Ireland utopia you can keep it.

          14. Zuppy International

            You’re loosing coherence Bertie, too many contradictions to reconcile?

            Let me summarise what you seem to be saying:

            1) State policy trumps natural law because might is right.
            2) The Gardaí can take any action they deem necessary – up to and including murder – in order to protect and enforce that state policy.
            3) Those of us who object to this tyranny should shut the f**k up or be prepared to accept a beating.

          15. ReproBertie

            You’re a fantasist. Rather than addressing anything I actually say you are inventing nonsense.

            1: The only time I mentioned policy of any sort was in ridiculing your paranoid “policy of theft” comment.
            2: I have repeatedly stated that garda action must be in line with the law.
            3: This assertation is pure fantasy on your part.

          16. Joe the Lion

            In that video you posted below what is your alternative proposal for how the Gardaí should have removed the protestor Zuppy? Taser? Laughing gas?

          17. ReproBertie

            He has repeatedly shown, through his avoidance of the question, that he has no alternative. He believes the gardaí should have told him to move and, when he didn’t, sat down and had a think about a nicer way to ask him to move.

    2. Wayne.F

      She ignored Gardaí instructions, breached an outer cordon and in the process of being removed from unlawfully blocking access to a building she was injured when a glass pane on the door was broken.

      It’s hardly like the Gardaí randomly picked someone and gouged their eye out

      1. Sam

        “a glass plane was broken“. interesting use of the passive. Someone broke the door by repeatedly pushing on it, when it was clearly blocked, without due care for the risk of broken glass.

        1. Clampers Outside!

          Would that be the protesters pushing and pulling against the door from two seperate compartments of the revolving door perhaps. Whatever about the Gardaí trying to move them, the video clearly shows feet being pushed against the door to prevent the Gardaí doing their job.

          I presume this is what you were talking about. So, the “someone” can clearly be said to be the protesters.

          And that “peaceful protest” is the cry of idiots who think they can do what, and go where they want as long as they say it, bloody idiots.

        2. Topcat

          Somebody blocked the Glass Door without due care to the risk of someone pushing it and breaking the glass.

    3. Owen

      What are you on about you clown? Are you relating this to cops shooting a man in the back!? She sat in a doorway and the guards tried to remove her. A door broke in the process. Her fault, our tax paying.

      1. Sam

        again the door broke … amazing that the door did something, and not the Garda pushing on it. I hope they’ve warned other Gardai about doors that spontaneously break.

        1. Clampers Outside!

          Again, I presume you are of the clearly wrongful belief that the protesters pushing their feet and hands against the door had nothing to do with it breaking even though it is evidenced in the video.
          You should’ve gone to Specsavers.

        2. Owen

          Ah get a grip. You totally missed my point. She put herself in a position that was going to get her moved forcefully. If the door didn’t break / be broken (by her or the guard) she would still be shouting ‘police brutality’. It makes no difference what happened, she put herself in a position of harm and got harmed. Now she will play the victim.

          And who do you think pays for the door anyway? Or the guards time? Or the wasted council time?….Or her dole? These clowns have gone beyond any gain and are now a financial and socil problem.

      2. 15 cents

        “her fault, out tax paying” … the money to replace that door is miniscule compared to what the protesters you hate so much have already saved you on water bills which they’ve successfully gotten reduced so far .. so have some respect you little .. rrrrr .. some people

        1. Steve

          Incorrect.

          The cost of treating water and wastewater and bringing/taking to/from homes and business remains the same even all after all these valiant protests.

          Yes the direct IW charges have reduced but the tab for the remaining cost has been picked up by an even greater level of government subvention. Which could be construed as unfair as it means rural people , who have their own wells and septic tanks , are seeing more of their taxes subsidising the cost of urban publicly connected people.

          Rrrrr….some people

        2. Rob_G

          This briefly, but succinctly, demonstrates that schools should spend more time on teaching the maths curriculum.

          (And possibly also more time on economics and civics, too).

    4. pissedasanewt

      Usually in the states with out of control cops it results in a shooting.

      Most of the broken glass is inside, so it suggests the force was coming from the person attempting to enter the building. I think the Garda are entitled to protect those doing their jobs in the building. If she had stayed outside the cordon and held up a banner, “no way, we won’t pay” and walked back and forth then none of this would have happened.

  6. jeremy kyle

    Doesn’t matter who is right or wrong that photo of her is going to be in all the papers and doing the rounds over social media and it’s the Guards that are once again going to come out looking inept and brutish.

  7. Atlas

    A pair of skangers behave in a deliberately obstructive manner, refuse to cooperate with the Gardaí, smash a revolving door and cut themselves on the glass. Do they seriously expect anyone to feel sorry for them?

    I hope the council bills them for the damage.

  8. Diddley Aye

    This is great. That voice… “yar hooortin me”, Heard whenever there’s a mill in a pub car park. Shows that crowd up for what they really are. Every time they upload one of these whiny poor me videos they put more distance between their shower and the mass of decent people who took part in the main marches.
    Best Fine Gael recruiting tool ever.

  9. Ultravox

    Great to see the @Labour supporters on here. Let’s see the snide remarks and the “bonus humour” after the next GE. Door. Ass. Way Out. Hit. Etc.

    1. Nessy

      I think they were protesting against the council handing over the names and details of tenants and homeowners over to Irish Water

  10. Trotscot

    The county councils are bound by law as much as anyone else is – they’re not lawmakers. Why don’t these people realise this? Ridiculous protest.

    1. Joe the Lion

      Bound By Law? Is that a 50 Shades spin-off?

      Shy, glass-wearing, mousey-haired lass goes down the Council office for a bit of light BDSM?

  11. Gavin

    It wasnt intended by the Garda, they didn’t deserve a pane of glass over the head (which is an awful thing to say, some people on here have real issues). But the Garda did have a duty of care afterwards which they callously ignored.

    1. Steve

      Cheers lad. And we will still be in government next year…and the year after next. Gotta love proportional representation.

      Enjoy scratching your hole on the sidelines.

  12. Anomanomanom

    Iv watched 3 different videos now and it’s very very clear this was an accident and also completely those people blocking the door that caused it. I’m all for protest but not with theses people. How many time is the word Fupp used. Classy ladies alright.

        1. Clampers Outside!

          In a way yes, but more precisely, the people resisting the Garda’s efforts to open the door by using their feet and hands against the glass and frame and thereby straining the door and preventing the Garda removing the individual after they were repeatedly requested to move, broke the door, yes.

          Garda pushes on door, non-preaceful protester resists, door breaks. Simple as.

          1. ekim

            are the garda not supposed to be trained in how to deal with lunatics and crazies without hurting them ? is that not a basic skill for a cop to comprehend that they dont have to put themselves and the people they encounter in danger of death to get the job done.

          2. ReproBertie

            I think you’ll find the gardaí are trained to know when violence is called for and to use violence when it is called for.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            @Ekim, so, you are saying the Gardaí were right to do what they did and remove her. They just did it badly, fair enough. No one would disagree with that. But suggesting it was not the protestors fault in any way is total bullcrap. And they wasn’t peaceful when blocking that entrance and having jumped a cordon and refused to leave and resisted against force when that was called for… which is what broke the door.

            Yes, the Garda need more training, and more staffing. At least we’re agreed on that. But that doesn’t excuse the protestor either.

          4. Talismania!

            Those revolving doors are complicated yokes, I’d say the Gardai break an occasional few even when there aren’t protesters involved.

            but seriously, if you shout that this is police brutality, it desensitises everyone to actual brutality when it happens – and if you put yourself in line to get a door shattered all over you, you can’t be too outraged when it happens.

  13. Mr. T.

    I know two people who are interns in a PR company and post messages on sites including this one for an institution linked to a large political party in Ireland and several more around Europe.

    I might even post their names some time.

    1. Mr. T.

      The institution I mean, not the people.

      They promote stuff like the private water industry, they are linked to the IMF also and members of their board are on boards of major venture capital funds and also big name merchant banks. AND they are major players in TTIP. Their Irish PR company pays journos to write biased articles and they also have intelligence on politicians which they use to influence their decisions in parliament. They’re c**nts.

      1. Soundings

        Is that the crowd who operate a secret facility outside Ballintubber which stores the corpses of aliens who landed in 1979, and is the real reason US pharma and technology companies are locating themselves in Ireland?

        1. Nigel

          I know you’re being funny, but in this day and age, is the idea that people and corporations with billions at their disposal wouldn’t have the resources and sheer amorality to do something as Mr T describes? It seems… trivial to me that of course they could and probably do.To suggest it’s a paranoid conspiracy on the level with alien abductions is to ignore the nature of modern communications and corporate culture. Or, now that I think of it, perhaps it is merely an acknowledgement that that is the world we live in now. Joke’s on us, really. Most of our news does, in fact, come from corporate PR.

          1. ReproBertie

            I believe astroturfing is the term used to describe the practice of having employees/political party members go online to create the impression of grassroots support for something.

            Everyday’s a schoolday.

      2. JimmytheHead

        Easy to tell whos fake or not on here, usually have no link on their username or have a really ordinary username thats a first name with an initial after it.

        P.s. careful who you rat on, these companies have more money than scruples

      3. Dubloony

        Spill it! We won’t tell anyone, promise.
        Seriously, if you have concrete evidence of wrong doing then report it to standards in public office.

      4. ahjayzis

        And totally imaginary until you tell us who they are. Call a relatively independent minded journo if you don’t fancy saying it out, but don’t vaguebook about it.

  14. ekim

    the cops failed to police this ‘protest’. their cordon failed, they let the protesters get into the doors.
    the cops then, as usual in Ireland, TAKE IT PERSONALLY , which results in the heavy handed tactics that smashed the glass door. They should have seen the hazard.
    you know they take it personally because of the snide remarks.
    I have no time for the anti water croud, but its obvious the cops take every protest personally.
    why couldn’t they just let the protesters sit in the door and let the overtime roll in? were they in a rush to get home for dinner? or embarrassed that they let the protesters through?
    im sick of this country.

    1. Bort

      Yea I’d find it hard not take some the choice words directed at me if I were a Garda, IF i arrive in to work and someone is blocking me from entering the building I hope the Gardai take their time and we both watch the overtime roll in

      1. ekim

        day off? great. theres probably another 40 doors into that building.
        The guards are supposed to be professional peacekeepers. yesterdays actions in swords dont show any professionalism or peacekeeping. They shouldnt let themselves get so rattled by protesters that they end up looking like the brutes.

    2. Rob_G

      The people working in Fingal Co Co have to be allowed to go about their lawful business; the people obstructing the door were preventing that. Gardaí were obliged to remove them, same as when people sit down on the street to protest something.

      I’m sorry that that lady was hurt, but that someone was hurt when messing about with a massive sheet of glass is no great surprise.

      1. ekim

        were you there? did you get blocked from going from your job? did you hear of ANYONE blocked from going to their job? what BS
        protests happen. deal with it profesionally.
        Id imagine the protesters only went near the doors because the guards were trying to corner them somewhere else, every action has a reaction, the cops here dont ever seem to understand that.

        1. ReproBertie

          You’d imagine? Because imagining allows you to paint the protestors as innocent and the gardaí as violent morons.

          Every action has a reaction, the protestors here don’t ever seem to understand that.

          1. ekim

            we know they got through the cordon. so the cops were trying to keep them in a zone, and it didnt work. because our cops are useless.
            Its not about the innocence of the protesters, its the utter uselessness and disrespect that the cops have for protesters.

            rob g you are just making up stuff about the FCC workers, at least im talking about the event that actually happend.

          2. ReproBertie

            How do you know what the gardaí were trying to do? Your imagination is running wild there and the only conclusion it can come to is that the gardaí were in the wrong.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            Ekim… you are not talking about the event that happened, you’re entering into this with an anti-Garda stance and then throwing suppositions in as facts to defend the protesters and ignoring the fact that jumping a cordon loses one the “peaceful protest” stance.

            Hilariously blinkered.

        2. Clampers Outside!

          “the protesters only went near the doors because the guards were trying to corner them somewhere else”

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !

          You gotta love that colander defense. What a completely idiotic statement.

    3. Miko

      Umm. Because the workers and council are entitled to go about their daily work that’s why. People have a legal right to go about their daily life not being accosted by anybody. This is not peaceful protest.

          1. Zuppy International

            What about the people’s private data that apparently has been handed over to a criminal entity without the peoples’ consent?

          2. Rob_G

            If the Govt pass bill and say that it is legal, then Fingal CoCo don’t have much choice but to do it.

            (I will ignore your ‘criminal entity’ bit for the sake of brevity).

            It would make much more sense to protest outside IW’s offices or the Dáil.

  15. Drogg

    When I read the comment section on this story, all I can think of is the people of Dublin spit on the volunteers after the rising. I wonder will some of the commenters here who are spitting their bile be remembered the same way in the future.

    1. Soundings

      + 1, citizens protesting against an unjust tax, an incompetent quango with political masters who act the clown, and a deal with [REDACTED] which bears striking similarities to the sale of the second phone mobile licence by the previous FG government in 1994. What do people expect, protesters in morning suits and evening gowns with received D4 pronunciation. When something is wrong, it’s wrong.

      1. Joe the Lion

        You’re right of course though your conclusion reminded me of that radio ad “when they’re gone, they’re really gone”. Carry on l;)

    2. Vote Rep #1

      I don’t know, do you view the bin protesters like the volunteers who were spat on after the rising?

      I do find it amusing that people are no longer allowed a difference of opinion. Protesters = knackers/dole bums. People who don’t support the protesters = government shills, blueshirts, labour wankers, west brits. If you do support the protests, you probably deserve to be in jail. If you don’t, you are no better that the people who spat on the volunteers. It is all very immature.

      1. Drogg

        I have never said a bad word about the bin protestors. My point here is not that the people who don’t support the protestors are some sort of traitors, but it is the bile and vitriol some people in this comment section seem to be spouting just because people had the audacity to stand up for what they believe in.

          1. Drogg

            Of course Paolo, sure no one pays any tax and the government hasn’t wasted billions paying back unsecured bond holders. You sure sound like a fine upstanding citizen.

          1. d4n

            Whether or not it’s brutality is beside the point, the Gardai shouldn’t be escalating these situations.

      1. Sham Bob

        Trying to start a non-payment campaign for the USC would have been pointless, as it’s taken from people’s wages/payments. The march against the bailout week-in week-out in Ballyhea has kept that issue alive but not had any impact on government policy. Sounds like you haven’t even heard of it.
        This issue has gained traction because it’s something where people can refuse to pay en masse and actually change government policy.

    3. Anomanomanom

      You are actually comparing these wasters to the 1916 rising and other Irish hero’s. Again absolute moron.

      1. Drogg

        This is a perfect example of the type of comment i was talking about. Thanks for proving my point.

  16. Liam from Lixnaw

    what they should have done was put the door into its quadrant position (if you get me) the sent in a hose pumping out Irish Water (the ironing is delicious), turned it on and they would have soon left –

    “Oim bleedin’ drown-dead”

  17. JimmytheHead

    Silly women, helping to preserve our human rights when they should be at home using their wombs to fart out more childers. Poor garda was only trying to open the door with her head because he couldnt reach the door handle.

    /sarcasm

    1. Waffles

      Absolutely, It is up to them to protect our human right to be a right tit and sit in a rotating door.

      These people are the martyrs we deserve.

      1. JimmytheHead

        We’d be far better off putting all our trust in Fine Gael to look after all our tax money and not be greatful that someone risked their life to highlight the spineless corruption and bigotry in our system.

  18. Dubloony

    Why were they targeting a council meeting over water charges?
    That is set at national government level, not local council. Serious question.

      1. Waffles

        You don’t.
        That’s what your Dail representative is for.

        Representative democracy. Have you heard of it.

  19. Mad Mike

    What’s the problem?

    It clearly was her fault and she clearly DID do it to herself.

    No one else to blame but herself for her stupidity, carelessness and arrogance..

  20. 15 cents

    i really hope this thread of comments isn’t a microcosm of the whole population .. the general theme of them goes; her fault, no sympathy, obey the law … its like a bunch of mini, socialist hall school prefects spouting on .. theres no way that woman broke the glass, it’s obviously the brutish force of the police, and no one deserves to have their eye opened up like that and then have you bunch or soap-box standing a-holes say she deserves it. people like her, protesting, have already gotten them to massively lower the water rate that you so longingly want to pay .. and if the protests continue they might even be abolished or at least lowered some more. so have some respect. effin broadsheet commenters = the worst!

    1. Waffles

      From the only terrible video we have, we have actually no way of knowing who’s at fault for breaking the glass.

      From where I’m thinking – It is certainly plausible that the glass shattered under the pressure she applied using her back, in order to resist the Garda trying to pull them away.

      “There is literally no possible way the Garda broke the glass”

      1. d4n

        Usually when an object is struck, it moves away from the thing striking it. The glass falls towards the protesters, so unless there’s some weird localised breach of the laws of physics in that doorway, the gardai broke the glass.

    2. Anomanomanom

      Well said…expect that it was her fault, the garda clearly didn’t break the glass and I’m all for protest even out and out civil disobedience. But I wouldn’t go crying to a camera because I got a little hurt. Iv had bigger paper cars, the blood just makes it look much worse. Also why all the sideline people shouting for an ambulance to be called. She wasn’t hurt enough for them to stop filming and call one for her.

  21. Cohen Hand

    God-damn neo-liberal elites and their revolving door policy on human rights.

    It’s time we had doors that aren’t just for elites. Doors that open and close in both directions.
    Doors with no locks.

    Open doors for all! Resist the tyranny of the vestibule!

  22. Owen

    She can protest all she wants. But if you sit in a doorway, or on a road for that matter, and get hurt, why should other people be held responsible for doing their jobs? Should they have not moved her and just closed the council till she went home for fear of injuring her?

    I find it concerning that so many people on here cannot see that she put herself in harm’s way and got harmed. A door broke. If she was not there it would not have happened.

    Secondly, she is not protesting about water charges. She is prolonging a protest that was successful and is now over. The no protest reduced costing nationally and has indicated they are keen for people not to pay bills, and they have stated a few times that they plan on holding their agenda past the next GE. That’s great. So why this anger generating propaganda?

    If we are going to relate it to the past, I would quicker relate it to the 14yr olds throwing rocks in the North about ‘The Troubles’. It’s legacy protesting, beyond any further gains other than disturbance and, now, in the minority of the people interest.

    I hope she goes to court and the judge charges her for damages and wasting police time.

    1. Owen

      Ok, I do feel bad about my last sentence there, it was the coffee talking. I do hope she recovers well…… and then goes to court.

    2. Spartacus

      “Secondly, she is not protesting about water charges. She is prolonging a protest that was successful and is now over.”

      I can think of hundreds of thousands of citizens who would choose to disagree with you on that point. It is far from over.

      1. Owen

        You ignored all of it bar one line you decided to extract and focus one, wrongly. Hundreds of thousands of citizens are not still protesting. A small handful are. Hundreds of thousands of citizens still agree with the initial idea of the protest, in not supporting Irish Water.

        1. Spartacus

          I challenge you on a point you made, you don’t agree that I should focus on that, and *I’m* wrong? You think that only a small handful are stiil engaged in citizen protest against IW? You need professional help.

    3. d4n

      ‘why should other people be held responsible for doing their jobs?’ Escalating confrontations is not the job of the gardai.

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