Same-sex marriage supporters celebrating at Dublin Castle last Saturday, top, and Cardinal Pietro Parolin, above
Ah here.
The Guardian reports:
“’I was deeply saddened by the result,’ Cardinal Pietro Parolin, the Vatican’s secretary of state, said at a conference in Rome on Tuesday night. ‘The church must take account of this reality, but in the sense that it must strengthen its commitment to evangelisation. I think that you cannot just talk of a defeat for Christian principles, but of a defeat for humanity.'”
“… with his choice of words, Parolin differed from the pope in one respect: the Argentinian pontiff has also used the phrase “defeat for humanity”, but he was talking about war, not the legalisation of gay marriage.”
In fairness.
Vatican says Ireland gay marriage vote is ‘defeat for humanity’ (The Guardian)
Pic: Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland and Catholic Ireland
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“a defeat for *inhumanity”
There, I fixed it
+1.2 million
Equality for some. Not for all.
4 legs good, 2 legs bad.
Who cares what the vice-popident has to say?
Fuzzy wuzzy was a woman?
A giant of a man. Fair play to him for speaking up. Irish bishops need support. Their own are quick to betray and Ireland is suffering from a serious disease consisting of renegade heretical priests, a la carte lay people an empty decedent culture, a feminist media and a compliant government with no vision. Irish bishops need to act. The days of making statements and pastoral letters are over.
There are more anti human lies hoping to be codified into Ireland’s statutes coming down the line.
That. right. there. is why I love democracy.
“Irish bishops need to act”
Would be very interested as to what you mean by that?!
Act how?
capes and tights man, capes and tights. when you get past cardinal you get these super powers..
So what should they be doing instead of making statements and writing letters? Armour up and go on a crusade against those nasty feminists who apparently run the media now?
Firing heretics and evicting them from church property for starters.
Gotcha
Heretic:
a dissenter from established religious dogma; especially : a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church who disavows a revealed truth
Go on – explain what a “revealed truth” is please
Hiya ABM,
We don’t go to Church so you can tick that one off your list.
You’re welcome.
No one would expect some sort of Irish Inquisition.
Loving thy neighbour as they themselves wish to be loved?
Nah.
Is there anything to be said for another mass?
A giant c*** of a man
c***womble, surely?
That too!
Lolathon.
Again why should I even care why some guy in a dress is going Wah Wah Wah? Unless the man won’t allow him marry who he chooses? Tick
But you do seem to care.
No I only care about this man getting airtime here. His opinion is irrelevant to me.
If his opinion is irrelevant, why do you care one way or the other?
Maybe because another out-of-touch church official has come out with a statement which is insulting not just to LGBTQ people but to Ireland as an entire nation. The church may be increasing in other parts of the world but they will die out in Ireland soon enough.
I care about the promotion of irrelevance
A blessing from the HSE does not consummate a marriage.
nope, it’s the shag afterwards that consummates the marriage.
I don’t know if it has to be a particular *type* of shag, perhaps it must be in the missionary position? Are there rules surrounding the consummation? anyone know?
It’s not a blessing you moron. It’s a legal union.
Wrong:
“Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction as to their sex.”
As approved by the Irish people.
Ha.
You lost on Friday, ABM. It doesn’t mean you have to like it.
Up yer hole
What’s a revealed truth?
If marriage equality is a “defeat for humanity”, what does he call the day the Vatican decided to write rules on how to protect child raping priests?
Business as usual?
I thought to myself “these guys are so out of touch with reality” and then realised he’s an old man in a dress and funny hat, never mind the fairy stories they think are real…
Was he trying to look like a cartoon villain in that photograph? :-D
Another success for the church. The Cardinal could cut it as a James Bond baddie.
For balance: http://www.adnkronos.com/rf/image_size_400x300/Pub/AdnKronos/Assets/Immagini/Ritagli/2014/09/parolin_inf-kgg–1280×960@Produzione.jpg
Bodger will surely burn in hell one day. Thanks be to God.
Classic media trick. One never, ever published a photo of a smiling cardinal/bishop for a story like this. A smiling priest is permissible if he supports your cause.
Who still listens to the voice of the oddly clad citizens of the worlds smallest country? How can they still wield influence over some Irish people after decades of the worst kind of scandal you could imagine, the absolute worst – and they still turn up every Sunday and kneel in front of their altars…it is hard to understand.
Thinking that Irish people turn up because of priests and bishops is your mistake there. That’s what’s causing you to be confused.
they turn up for the tiny wafers
They need to keep their beliefs inside the church doors and not try to impress them on others of non-faith or different beliefs. It’s very insulting to the French government also that the Vatican, an independent country itself, can’t be civil enough to look beyond religion for international affairs. How childish.
Maybe he can even up the score board by, paying up the outstanding compensation the Irish church owes it’s abide victims. Or if they are still tight for cash they could magically find the documents that would help children find their natural mothers after being sold by the church
+1
That would be a humane matter Father.
much like Fianna Fáil they are another men only club that is fading into irrelevance!! and the sooner the better
You’ll be sorry, you Yes voters. You didn’t realise the consequences of your actions. It’s to late for turning back now. Humanity doesn’t just fix with super glue – you know.
Those guys just need to get laid.
If you have an entire organisation sworn to celibacy, surely that would defeat humanity?
And what on earth does he mean by a statement like that? Many people I know who take their religion seriously voted yes as an act of love for their family members, and taking the commandment of love thy neighbor rather more seriously than the Vatican does.
From a Darwinian stand point. It would certainly explain the lack of priests.
The “entire organisation” is 1.2 Billion people. So a celibate priesthood of a few hundred thousand is no biggie.
Is that an accurate figure?Since you can no longer officially opt out of Catholicism,I suspect this figure includes a large number of people who received baptism but no longer identify as Catholic.
There are 3 certainties in this life; death, taxes, and replies for ABM.
Whilst I hate to be pedantic. That’s four Michael.
You love it!
death = ABM replies
An outwardly celibate man in a dress. Hmmm, right.
He really doesn’t get it does he? It was the humanity of people talking to people that won the vote. Unless he thinks that gay people are somehow less human of course. Now that would not surprise me.
He couldn’t look any more bored. Would rather watch the stock tickers on his heretic smart phone and check out new Vatican arrivals. There are some lookers there, all right. Fit for the chapel’s ceiling.
You know how photographs work, yes?
If ABM was a civil servant and made a decision in his job based on loyalty to the Vatican instead of the laws of his country, he should be tried and jailed for treason.
Poo like this is gold for Broadsheet.
Guarenteed tut tuting, with everyone in agreement and a near certain ABM contribution to get everyone riled.
Circlejerk guarenteed
And then rotide to make some idiotic commentary claiming some imagined superiority
My favourite part of this is that so many of the people claiming to be concerned yes voters on here are showing their true colours now, and shockingly they’re nowhere near as tolerant as they claimed to be before the referendum.
Come on Lorcan – Tolerant?? The Yes campaign?
There was a post about “Teachers for No” with a picture of three campaigners. And there were three comments, to the effect that these “bigots” should be hounded out of their jobs.
I wasn’t talking about genuine yes voters.
I was.
Yes, that’s clear. However, it doesn’t make much sense as a discussion or counterpoint to what I said.
And so they should be. Why they were explicitly stating if you read their manifesto was an intention to disseminate misleading, incorrect and counterfactual data to children to whom they are paid to educate.
This was just the start, we won’t stop until all of humanity is eradicated.
Only ABM can save us now