*swerve*
Martin writes:
Caught this on my way to work on Friday morning just beside the Convention Centre [north quays, Dublin]. Up there with some of the most dangerous driving I’ve ever seen That junction gets a lot of crazy behavior as the lights on the right only stay green for a short period and the junction is always blocked with traffic to the left. Same place I caught this: (which you previously shared)
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I usually find those who wear helmet cams are the most self righteous and annoying road users. They seek out confrontation to take out their personal inadequacies on others.
The middle aged men in high vis who barrel up the N11 and seek out dopey pedestrians to rattle are particularly nasty. When you someone is likely to step out in front of you, slow down and prepare to stop. Don’t speed up and road into their faces.
In a post which shows some shocking driving, you decide to go on a rant about people who wear wear helmet cams? Ok. I generally find people who drive dangerously and who break lights to be by far the most annoying road users.
And the relevance of your stupid rant to this video is what exactly?
Dark Wizards who hang out of passenger windows casting plague spells on the land rendering it barren and causing pestilence and famine are pretty bad but what about those parents that put their children’s college achievements on a bumper stickers – they are just the worst.
Er, isn’t this filmed with a dash cam?
Any chance of getting a registration plate and forwarding onto the Garda? so this person can be prosecuted and get off relatively scott free when they donate a few quid to the poor box.
Its pretty hard to gauge but the first biker is considerably more right than a car would be. Looking back at the first car in the queue, if you drew a line directly forward from their right tyre, the biker on the junction is almost a car width further to the right, remembering its a single lane junction.
Granted the car turning left was pretty wide but if the biker is effectively sitting on the middle line of the road, I have little sympathy for either. Car should have been tighter, bike could probably have taken up position a fraction more to the left without blocking the cars going straight on.
The biker had a green to go straight, the car coming around the corner possibly ran a red?
Yea and more of this. There’s a guy in London (Dave Sherry, a bus driver ironically) who is credited with 70 convictions from his helmet cam
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11392202/Watch-Cycling-vigilante-who-has-secured-over-70-motorists-convictions.html
Is the biker not on the wrong side of the road? Is there a stop sign at the junction the car made a left turn at? If not sure it’s a dodgy turn but not illegal, his view could’ve been blocked, should he expect motorbikes on the wrong side of the road?
It’s a traffic light controlled junction: the biker had green from 15s on, and honestly, we really don’t have “turn left on red” here.
So dangerous it turned OP into Danny Dyer
Every day I see cyclists breaking red lights – so the holier than thou attitude among some of them is a bit strange. They seem to want others to follow the rules of the roads, but not themselves.
Every day while cycling I see cars almost kill me. I don’t call all car drivers bottomholes though. There’s a proportion who are extremely dangerous and pig ignorant of how to treat others on the road, esp those who are more at risk. I don’t break red lights either. I wait, I see other cyclists doing it and I shout at them and if I can, catch up with them and tell em to knock it off. That they give a bad name to all cyclists to morons like you who put everyone into the one bin and think that people on bikes deserve to be injured or even killed because of the actions of a few idiots.
Firstly – this video was taken by a motor cyclist
Secondly – cyclists aren’t a unitary group. We don’t have regular meetings where we decide which laws we should follow, and which laws we expect motorists to follow. Some cyclists follow the rules. Some don’t. Just like some drivers.
@Cian
That explains why you are missing the meetings. Wednesdays 6pm – 7 pm Terenure Scouts Hall.
Actually, it always makes me laugh when people write ‘cyclists are X’ or ‘drivers are Y’ like they are a demographic sharing a single consciousness. I, like a lot of people, am a motorist, a cyclist or a pedestrian depending on the occasions. There is definitely a natural affinity to defend the group you feel a part of and demonize the others but I can say from my standpoint, on any given occasion a certain cyclist, drive, pedestrian, woodland creature can be an irresponsible tw*t and put others in danger. It is in all of us, depends on the person and the mood and the occasion. Makes me think that if jet-packs actually do make it to the mass population as a mode of transport we are all f*pped.
You’re talking about squirrels, aren’t you?
That’s just peculiar. Presumably the cyclists who follow the rules expect others to follow the rules too and, along with drivers of the same inclination, are indeed holier than the others who do not.
https://xkcd.com/385/
The bike is on the wrong side of the road a fair bit throughout the video
The bike had green to go straight ahead, it only stopped because the rider, it can be assumed, stopped to avoid a crash, and still nearly got clipped by the fool in the car ….who is seen running a red light.
Car at fault, no question.
Yes, the motorbike crossed a dashed white line in the middle of the road….. while overtaking, so what, that’s what happens when overtaking.
Both bikes on wrong side of the road.
Some of the worst driving I’ve seen!!
…yes, they were overtaking.
Definitely worse driving than the lad who broke the lights at speed.
Both motorcyclists are clearly in the wrong. See the rules of the road
“You must not overtake when
…
You are approaching a junction.”
Page 8
http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Road%20Safety/Motorcycles/This_is_your_bike.pdf
I wonder if, after this close call, both drivers now keep in to the left of their lane as they should have been.
Most motorcyclists drive with the objective of using the space in the road which is not occupied by cars, aka ‘beating the traffic’ and in this case alternating 0.5m either side of the white line. The RSA can’t condone that surely.
I agree. Way worse than the car breaking the lights.
There are two types of posts guaranteed to get lots of comments in BS: the ones that involve the actions and values of the RCC and the ones involving traffic, mostly inviting car drivers to give out about bikes and motorcycles. What car drivers seem to miss is that they are an intrinsic part of the actual problem that bothers them so much and turns them into unbearably annoying whiners: traffic jams.
If only they admitted to be jealous of the people arriving home sooner, healthier and happier than them while spending far less money (even public transport users fall into this category most of the time).
Do yourselves a favour and look for ways of life that don’t depend so much on the metal cage, you won’t regret it.
You’re not making the right argument. I’m copy pasting this because it’s an important message
Everyone should be all for more cycle lanes and safer cyclists for purely selfish reason, no matter what (or even if) they drive….
Why? a few reasons:
1) Traffic: Most obvious one. The more people cycling the fewer cars on the road, the better it is for motorist
2) Leeds on from the traffic argument. If there’s fewer cars it generates secondary costs savings. Goods and services are more easily delivered. Cities are machines and when people are on bikes they just work better and make more money for everyone.
Also there’s a cost saving to motorists as they won’t be spending as much on petrol and of course time costs money. Not only that but bikes are less damaging to infrastructure meaning road surfaces don’t need to be maintained as readily.
3) Health benefits: Cyclists are going to generally live longer, be healthier, be less likely to smoke and be less of a burden on the health service in old age. This also means you won’t be waiting so long to see your doctor.
4) Environment: Obviously bikes are better for the environment reducing noise and air pollution. They don’t just make cyclists healthier, they make everyone healthier. Do you know how many people are killed from the burning of fossil fuels every year in the US alone? 13,200.
The main hindrance to people getting on a bike is safety. Bike lanes should be demanded from all sectors, not only cyclists, as the more people who cycle the better it is for everyone. There simply isn’t an argument against it.
I think the bike should have slowed down and hugged the middle line; I don’t know the junction but the car may have had a green arrow filtering left, and a cyclist approaching on the inside hence the wide swing.
Motorcycles cannot use the bus lane
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/05/the-best-way-to-type-__/371351/
The bike was filtering along side of traffic (and doing so safetly).
The car ran a red light and in order to do so, he undertook the car ahead of him (which can be seen actually stopped at the red light on the right hand side of the video)
He then swerves onto the LUAS tracks (not visible in the video) and finally swerves again to avoid the biker.
Cleared that up, cheers!