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Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation Richard Bruton and Minister for Health Leo Varadkar at an Action Plan For Jobs event in Government Buildings this morning

Further to the Michael Lowry/Fine Gael brouhaha

This morning Minister for Health Leo Varadkar said:

“I really wouldn’t like to see a Government that’s dependent on any Independent. Because if we’re back to that, we’re back to the kind of parish pump deals that existed in the past. Fine Gael has never actually engaged in them, only Fianna Fáil has historically and, of course, the last time Michael Lowry was involved in such a deal it was with Fianna Fáil. And there are a number of Independent TDs who have issues with the law including Mr Lowry, but others too. And I’d hate to see a Government dependent on somebody not having to be in court or, potentially, being in prison.”

Previously: ‘I Hope That’s That’s Clear’

Related: Fine Gael TDs issue warning on Michael Lowry pact (Irish Examiner)

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40 thoughts on “Leo On Lowry

    1. andy moore

      1st Dáil of this week in 1919 had only about 25 T.D’s who were out of Prison as far as I remember ?? & I know it was not recognised , but only such by Westminster & not electorate @ Time !!

      1. Anne

        He was a bit clearer than Enda though.. who doesn’t envisage things, in general, going forward, heretofore, categorically clearly.

      1. Grouse

        I know you didn’t ask me, but what bothered me about it is the inference that independent TDs are of a lower moral character than party politicians. All he has to do is say they won’t go into government with a gombeen like Lowry, but instead he takes the opportunity to vaguely tar all independents with the same brush.

        1. Rob_G

          I didn’t take that reading from it; it seemed to me that he said he wouldn’t like those TDs who do have legal problems (Lowry) as propping up a coalition, rather than independent TDs in general.

          1. Grouse

            The unhighlighted intro to the paragraph sets it for me. “I really wouldn’t like to see a Government that’s dependent on any Independent.” Which then leads fluidly into a point about Lowry “and others” being tied up in court. He didn’t explicitly say it. It’s a vague but intentional muddying.

          2. Vote Rep #1

            Really? I read that as them not wanting to be like when FF were completely reliant on the likes of Healy-Rae in Kerry who had them by the balls. And then references other independents who are crooks.

        2. Vote Rep #1

          No he didn’t, he said that there were a “number of Independent TDs who have issues with the law”, not all TD’s.

  1. ahjayzis

    How dense is Enda?

    It’s obvious he couldn’t deny the Lowry point because no one had coached him to deny it if it came up. Anyone with the capacity to think on their feet/independently would have shot that down, it’s poisonous to FG and there’s ZERO benefit to maintaining ambiguity about this point, the wriggle room that provides is negligible. I genuinely do believe he can’t say anything unless sanctioned and rehearsed by his minders.

    1. ahyeah

      Hand-written notes passed to Enda suggest these two are a lot closer than either lets on. And you can bet anything that Lowry has shed-loads of dirt on a long list of FG heads. They know they can’t hang him out to dry publicly. Let’s just hope it backfires.

  2. Clampers Outside!

    I think he said what needed to be said a lot more strongly than Enda.

    FG are not stating who they may go into govt with because it is too early. If they start laying out all their cards now, wouldn’t that be stupid? Don’t they need to work the political game with an attitude that they can do it alone or come very close…. and then after counts and transfers, then declare who they may or may not work with.

    As a political tactic, I think it’s standard.

    Personally, I’d love a distance and a solid ‘NO’ stated on any possible inclusion of Lowryface.

    1. ahjayzis

      Anyone who hadn’t spent their entire lives in Dail Eireann would have ruled it out. Anyone who’s instincts and sense of propriety wasn’t so blurred and warped by a life doing as their told on the back benches.

      Just another reason why we have the worst selection process for PM in the world. Time served.

    2. Spaghetti Hoop

      +1

      Plus, I personally find all this nailing of colours to the fence / electioneering all a bit contemptuous – given that a general election has not been even announced. The present government expires on March 8th (5 weeks) yet the electorate have not even been given notice of when they may exercise their right to elect a new one. Who do they think they are, Russian Tsars??

  3. Eoin

    It’s pretty sickening that our system has lead us to a situation where people in power are discussing going into power with the likes of Lowry. There’s something wrong with a system that puts us all in this spot. Notice how the election hasn’t even happened yet and Lowry in power is already in discussion. Shame on anyone who votes for him.

    1. Steve

      You would have to ask the people of tipp that. Whatever your own opinion of Lowry, they are entitled to theirs and to reflect that opinion in a few weeks. Personally I hope FG avoid him like the plague…but anyway.

      What’s really sickening about our system is that a bunch of terrorists , rapist apologists /murderers/ criminals can still get a good outing on Election Day.

  4. tameati

    Fine Gael has never actually engaged in them, only Fianna Fáil has historically and, of course, the last time Michael Lowry was involved in such a deal it was with Fianna Fáil. Where such information?

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