Meanwhile, In The Seanad

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You may have seen the Irish Wind Energy Association ad on de telly.

Senator Thomas Byrne tweetz:

My motion before Seanad calling on Irish Wind Energy Association not to use JFK words addressing Oireachtas in ads.

Jaykers.

FIGHT!

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81 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In The Seanad

    1. classter

      FFS! I also voted for the Seanad.

      This feckless waster really can find no more important issue to campaign for?

      I did watch the Irish Wind Energy Association video as a result of this stupid motion. So perhaps it was all a odd piece of reverse psychology, with Byrne taking a hit on his dignity & credibility in order to help the Association spread its message?

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      No, but at least the option for good is still there. FG wanted to take it away from us entirely because they’re wannabe dictators.

    2. Windyjoe

      Yes for once politicians are trying to prevent a ponzi scheme / bubble before it reaches its peak.

  1. The People's Hero

    As long as big oil & gas money buys more ‘lobbying’ than the sustainable side, this sort of idiocy will continue…

    1. Windyjoe

      if you hate big oil and gas STOP using them then.

      Its as SIMPLE as that.

      Nobody is holding a gun to your head.

      1. The People's Hero

        That’s quite the logical fallacy you’ve got going on there…….. One of those things is not like the other…. Remember…? It was Sesame Street….

        1. WindyJoe

          You’re still using oil and gas to make hypocritical arguments on the internet

          Stop doing it please

    1. andy moore

      Daly & Ó’Sé Auctioneers ?? Now that would be a Ghost lyric & a half if a few of Darraghs Uncles Cúpla Fucall were introduced ! Páidí RIP BTW !!

    1. Vote Rep #1

      I am presuming they are anti-wind turbine lads who object to everything wind turbine no matter what it is.

        1. Nigel

          Then I urge you to go for a swim in one of the more polluted parts of the Niger Delta or else you are hypocrisy!

  2. DubLoony

    Why? Is it copyrighted or something?
    Its nice to be reminded to have a bit of faith in ourselves occasionally.
    We’re become so used to negativity that its refreshing to hear some optimism.

  3. Philip Hunt

    Good it is about time that the wind industry was found to be liers and scammers, it is all about subsidys from bill payers, which leads to fuel poverty, nothing to do with co2 or producing supposedly FREE electric

      1. Windyjoe

        Philip but we have lots of gullible idiots willing to be scammed – evolution must take its course

  4. 15 cents

    i dunno why anyone objects to the turbines. theyre progressive. as a renewable energy source, and as an economic source. on top of that they look beautiful. whenver i drive to limerick, the ones on the way look amazing. so big and majestic, yet also graceful.

    1. rotide

      well, ye probably wouldn’t want to live underneath one in fairness.

      AFAIK they ensure they are far enough away from housing to reduce the noise pollution aspect and people are well paid to have them on their land.

    2. Windyjoe

      15 cents why dont you hook up direct to one so and see how you get on ?

      Economically and technically they are pieces of junk.

      They will eventually be left rotting around the countryside as monuments to our stupidity for future generations

      1. classter

        Objectively, you are incorrect.

        Anyhow, they can be taken down in the future & the steel recycled for other products.

  5. 15 cents

    was guna say ‘all in a days work for the seanad’ but they probably took a few months to get this together. theyre like the trees in lord of the rings.

  6. Windyjoe

    Great work Seanad.

    JFK would be turning in his grave to know that scammers are using his words to destroy Irelands landscape with ugly useless pieces of junk

        1. Nigel

          They’re attempting to restrict speech in a gesture as asinine as it is futile. Makes sense oil ‘supporters’ would applaud that sort of thing, I suppose.

    1. classter

      True or not (and I suspect you are wrong), it doesn’t matter. It will be used by those with whom I agree & with whom I disagree. Luckily we have (aome level of) freedom of speech.

      Neither JFK, nor his estate, nor anybody else gets to control how his words are used today.

      There is a weird, dangerous streak of authoritarianism running through part of the Irish body politic. The decline of the Church hasn’

  7. classter

    This f***ing guy has an extremeley privileged position.

    He has a public position, he is paid a decent salary, he has the resources of the Oireachtas at his fingertips, he has a wide degree of latitude on how he spends his time.

    And this, THIS, is how he spends it.

    What a child.

  8. Hector Ramirez

    I like the ad, the oratory is immense.

    ‘the problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics and cynics’

    that’s some foresight, knowing he’d end up on broadsheet one day.

    1. WindyJoe

      Reminiscent of berties moners and cribers speech

      Cynicism is a term used by those who lack basic critical faculty

  9. classter

    Does anything good ever happen in the Seanad, Broadsheet?

    How ’bout sharing some of the positive stories as well as the farcical ones?

    1. Deluded

      Not the worst idea ever, classter: to see some of the positives being discussed. Is politics in general adversarial and combative though? Also, it is the outrageous that is interesting and maybe the negatives need to be teased out and exposed.

  10. Truth in the News

    Who owns all these Wind Installations and pockets the Income and the PSO
    Levy, maybe the so called Irish Wind Association might tell, and also tell us
    who foots the bill for providing spinning reserve when the wind drops or stops
    blowing, their radio ad needs axing too….Irish Wind Association using foreign
    voice overs, is it telling us, that a lot of the setup is owned by foreigners.

  11. WindyJoe

    How come broadsheet has a pro wind pro gobsheen stance ?

    Just who pays for this website?

    Enquiring minds want to know

        1. Nigel

          Oil and gas lobby literally wait in the lobby with caps in hands wondering when their poor and ethical industry will ever get its foot in the door.

    1. Kieran NYC

      ‘Pro-wind’.

      Jaysus wept, what a term. Sit down before you strain something from trying to think.

      1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

        The Fall.
        No other band matters.

        :Always one step ahead of you’

        Always were, always will be.
        …by decades.

        You saps.

  12. Val Martin

    How can anyone guess what JFK would have said about any product, particularly wind energy? Could I place an add asking viewers to reject wind energy? I can recall no add using footage of a long dead person. I have sent in an official complaint to RTE. The SEA Directive and article 7 of the Aarhus Convention is being ignored to rush through planning permission and my person campaign has cost me at least 10,000 euros over 5 years to stop planning. In 2014 120 wind farm permissions were granted and in 2015 it was down to 10. Viewers cannot separate wind electricity from the rest, so why advertise for a product consumers cannot select?

    At least the Senate is doing something useful, even if it for the election.

  13. Sorcha Ni Aoidhe

    An iconic speech used to promote windfarms in Ireland, how could this have ever been allowed to happen is beyond belief. I understand some people are pro wind but then there are those of us who are faced with this as a reality some of us already living with it. We have to use our hard earned money to pay to protect the areas we live in (Rural Irleand) and even with using thousands of our hard earned cash we can still be unsuccessful and have windfarms built near our homes. Some having to move out which means we cannot sell, our houses are devalued all because a local farmer sells out to a wind developer. There are young families who have children with autism they have no choice but to move. The health of people, animals, wildlife, waterways, the list is endless of what is happening so yes I do find it unbelievable that an iconic speech such as John F. Kennedy’s could be used in this advert and to have it coming into my living room every night and my children looking at it while we gather every penny to protect our home and community from the proposed 49 Turbines each 159 metres high surrouding our home.

    1. Marie Scanlon

      This is ad is pure propaganda, costing an unbelievable €500,000. The true meaning of JFK’s speech was based around the amazing youth of this Country and investing in them for a positive future for both urban and rural Ireland. JFK would be appalled that Communities and Families are being exploited by lucrative subsidies for Wind Energy developers. Wind Energy is run on subsidies and is clearly not sustainable. Look at some of the evidence online of families lives torn apart by such developments and maybe then you will see a balanced view of wind energy.

      1. Spaghetti Hoop

        How are families lives torn apart exactly? I couldn’t find any evidence of this, positive impacts moreso.

      2. Nigel

        Maybe you should take a look at some of the damage done to the environment and to people and to entire countries by the exploitation of oil, just to get a little perspective. I would also like to know if you think that the construction of wind farms is significantly more disruptive than other major infrastructural projects, because that sure as heck stop them building a buncha big roads all over the place.

        1. Windyhoe

          Each wind turbine requires 1000 tonnes of concrete and steel.

          Also, rare earths for their magnets which are mined in china.

          There are areas in china that now have acid lakes because of this.

  14. Eeejit

    I say let’s go nuclear. No one speaking for rural Ireland will have a problem with that right?

    Many countries including Denmark have near total energy independence thanks to wind energy. Believe it or not, some incentives need to be given to industry to get this thing off the ground. Heaven forbid companies try and make a profit when installing these across the county – surely everyone should offer free labour and materials out of patriotic duty?

    Rural Ireland can’t have it every way. No to an modern energy grid, no to nuclear, no to wind energy. Talking about ‘families’ with autistic children being forced to move as a reason to halt wind energy expansion takes the biscuit. I have sympathy but should we next ban red and green traffic lights because some people are colour blind?

    1. Windyhoe

      I am 100% for nuclear power – cheap , clean and reliable power.

      The Danish wind scam has fooled many fools like Eejit.

      Danish Electricity Exports were worth just € 31 million last year. They sometimes have to pay
      Norway to take away their wind.

    2. Windyhoe

      Denmark is almost completely reliant on very expensive imports from Norway to balance their wind power.

      Wind energy will take us back to the dark ages.

      “Modern energy grid” – this guy has got to be joking – somebody please tell me thats the case, nobody can be this thick.

  15. Eeejit

    Edit: I say ‘families’ as I question whether there’s more than one in this case quoted by an earlier commenter.

    1. Sorcha Ni Aoidhe

      To answer your question referring to my comment in relation to a proposed windfarm in my local area
      (There are young families who have children with autism they have no choice but to move), ies…this means more than one family.

    2. Windyhoe

      I wont ever have to live beside a wind turbine, thankfully.

      My objections are based on economic, technical and environmental reasons.

      Nobody can ever, nor will ever, debate me on it. All the so called renewable experts in the recent Mansion House gathering ran away when confronted.

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