Dangerous Bull



“Councillor [Alan] Tobin should stick with local issues that pertain to people instead of coming out with hideous and inaccurate comments that have little basis and that are absolutely hurtful to the many species of dog such as staffies and pit-bulls; animals who are troubled animals all because of their built and look.

Mr. Tobin is sadly going to rubber stamp the already inaccurate view that these animals are dangerous animals and that families across Ireland should be aware – far from it. If anything, these animals are hugely exploited by calculated people who turn them into vicious and nasty blood-thirsty creatures.

If we are to rely on this type of inaccurate nonsense from Fine Gael going forward, then animals in Ireland should be very worried. ARAN intends on presenting Mr. Tobin with our 2016 ‘Ass-Backwards Award’ for his dumb comments in the near future.”

John Carmody, of ARAN [Animal Rights network] on Meath Fine Gael Councillor Alan Tobin’s ‘dangerous dogs’ measure.


Alan Tobin (Facebook)

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112 thoughts on “Dangerous Bull

    1. newsjustin

      It’s better than that. The Councillor’s words are, in fact “…hurtful to the many species of dog such…” Hurtful to a species (which is an incorrect term, but whatever), not just individual dogs.

      I’m a dog owner. I understand that some breeds are regarded as dangerous or unpredictable. I know that some are legally listed as requiring certain precautions. People need to grow up.

      1. Caroline

        Well to be fair to John Carmody it is the entire “species” that is covered by the law, so it stands to reason that the whole lot of them would be upset, not just the more sensitive individuals among them. They are pack animals after all. That’s just like basic dog and I don’t even own a dog.

        (Hurts my heart that he couldn’t issue this appeal without the ableist language though. Very sad.)

    1. Sheila

      Staffies were bred as ratters back in the day. Their perceived image now is down to that small part of society who use them (and other breeds) for fighting.

      Temperament wise they are wonderful dogs. But in the wrong hands…

      1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

        Staffies are the most drooly lovely wuffly doggies!!

  1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    I can’t believe that you can get away with saying Ass-Backwards Award on Broadsheet nowadays.
    It never used to be like this.

    1. AssWords

      I know, my flipp’n eyes are stinging from the sight of the word “Ass”…. jeepers there is it again…. Aaaaaggghhhh

      It always lights up my day when people go out of their way to be offended. If you don’t like the look, sound, smell, or feel of something you move on; rather than issuing complaints and imposing a weak sense of offense just move over to something that will not offend you, say like cute cuddle kitten pictures :) :) :)

  2. Anomanomanom

    There is no such thing as a dangerous breed of dog. Who ever actually compiled that list is clearly an idiot.

    1. well, tat's that

      +1, no such thing as dangerous breeds of dog, just terrible irresponsible owners. The attitude towards dogs in Ireland in general is out of date.

    2. Rob_G

      How come some breeds of dogs, while only making up a tiny % of of dog ownership, account for a much larger proportion of deaths?

      There is always the chance that a dog of any breed will run amok, but like it or not, there are certain dog breeds that are more likely to kill someone when they do.

    3. Medium Sized C

      I dunno.
      A LOT of people get bitten by golden retrievers.

      That aside, some dogs are considerably better at hurting things than others.

      1. 1980s Man

        No way dude, they are good looking blonde middle class dogs. They’re in all the ads for home products.

  3. Owen

    I’m fairly sure having a dog muzzled regards the strength of a dogs jaw, not its nature. So some of those breeds would, and do make great family pets.

    I’d love to have a ridgeback (lovely mannered dogs), but would not in Ireland cause I’d have to put a muzzle on it.

    1. Frilly Keane

      Indeed they do
      And so do Rothies and Akitas

      Although all dogs, behaviour , one way or another, is a result of the owners management

      There’s a few saucy little bollixes where I walk
      And they’re not on that poster

      There are bad owners
      Not bad dogs

  4. Noel

    Having owned a ridgeback and currently own a rottweiller, I find the ignorance of this individual knows no bounds

      1. postmanpat

        Ridgebacks born without the distinctive ridge pattern, (a genetic mutation bred into the animal which looks cool but is a sign of spinal deformity ) are usually destroyed despite being more healthy than the ridge(y) ones. It is cruelty to animals. but it looks cool though and that’s the main thing so its okay. When is Crafts back on?

    1. Stephen

      And do you keep you dog muzzled and on a short leash when you’re out like you’re supposed to. Your rottweiler may be friendly to you but what if a small child got too close and the dog felt threatened, it would attack. This is why big dogs should not be allowed in public areas unless they are fully restrained by the owner and have a muzzle on.

      1. Starina

        that could happen with any dog. I’ve found small dogs to be much more prone to be very territorial and aggressive. staffies and shepherds, however, are perfectly lovely if raised correctly.

        1. Stephen

          Maybe but a small dog is a lot less likely to maul a child to death. Even if a bigger dog is raised correctly it only tales a split second for it to change and attack.

          1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

            I need stats or that is just made up. Ever seen a terrier take out a badger? They are a lot bigger, are not scared and go straight for the throat. Vicious.

          2. Cup of tea anyone?

            You have never owned a dog have you Stephen?

            Dogs have personalities. And like people their personalities don’t just change.

            Normal people don’t just go from normal happy go lucky people to kicking someones teeth in. and neither do dogs.

          3. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

            @ Don Pidgeoni

            No but I’ve seen a badger turn into an oul bitch

          4. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

            @rehab/broadsheet – thanks for continuing to illustrate my point! I look forward to you following me around for the next few days and making similar comments out of desperation.

          1. ReproBertie

            Seriously? I was in the car listening to updates on Newstalk. Did they have the whole thing live or just dip in and out?


          2. Rugbyfan

            I know, it used to be the opposite with all the focus on the football in England and dip ins to the rugby ! But we had full MC with Tony Ward adding in his viewpoints( well I only got the last 15 mins). He makes the matches! the best commentator by a mile!

          3. ReproBertie

            True that. He’s the next best thing to being there. Both Semis are on TG4 and they’re both evening kick offs so unless they stick him on RTÉ Extra (or whatever they call the longwave station these days) it’ll be the cúpla focal for Saturday.

  5. Lordblessusandsaveus

    “Councillor [Alan] Tobin should stick with local issues that pertain to people”

    He is doing exactly that.

    I don’t want to be in the vicinity of some scumbag’s aggressive dog. People have a right to be safe in public. Scumbags shouldn’t be allowed to have these. Or anyone else for that matter but we all know scumbags don’t know how to behave in public.

    1. Anomanomanom

      Some people should not have dog’s and other’s are just idiots like for example, I had my dog around in a little green area beside where I live. I was clearly throwing a ball and my dog was clearly chasing the ball. A women who can see this still decided to bring her child in and allow her to run loose, she was not watching her child, the child ran for my dog who turned to run for the ball and in the process flattened her child. The mother turned to see my dog over her child and went mental accusing my dog of all sorts. I lost the rag and told her to fupp off. Long story short the garda got involved and my dog was being classed as dangerous. Only there is a cctv from the building over looking the green area my dog would have been fupped. So how many “dangerous incidents” are actually idiots just panicking because the dog is not a little fluff ball.

        1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

          Showed her not to be a moaning twit alright.

          Hope you disinfected that dog when you got home, kids are covered in germs

      1. Lordblessusandsaveus

        Hmm. I’d say you think your dog is more important than a person’s safety.

        1. Anomanomanom

          No i don’t, but not supervising your child is irresponsible and freaking out when seeing what she say is understandable, Not listening to what happened because she couldn’t admit she was wrong and trying to get my dog put down is a completely scummy thing to do.

        2. Anomanomanom

          And my dog is far more important to me than a strangers child. This does not mean I’d allow my dog to be unsafe around people.

    2. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

      have you considered that the last person that dog wants to be next to you is you?

  6. Polaroid Fluid

    threatening looking dogs are the classical sign of the insecure male who normally always also has too many tattoos, a woman with too much make up and very tight jeans and some horrid flashy car. I’d frankly bring the lot to the RSPCA in the hope they all get out down quickly and painlessly.

    1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

      From the same page

      “According to [the last] study, reliable verification of the breed of dog was only possible in 18% of incidents.”

      So there you go.

  7. Joe835

    Speaking as one of Cllr Tobin’s constituents, I was just astonished to see a sign erected by Meath County Council in Ashbourne full stop. They’re usually pretty hands-off.

  8. Cromuel

    There is, according to my anti-animal-cruelty sources, lots of dog fighting going on in Ireland, in areas such as Cavan, Tipperary and the North Circular Road. I can’t remember ever seeing a prosecution for this. I’ve met some lovely banned-breed dogs with nice owners; could it be that the aim of the law is faulty here, and that it should be targeting the swines who use dogs to fight, and taking the dogs off them — and don’t even start me on puppy farms.

  9. Stephen

    They need to ban dogs from public areas and green spaces and playing fields. It’s disgusting that owners allow them to just run wild around people and children. Even when they do pick up poo after them there is still residue left behind that if a child touched could have serious consequences but dog owners are mostly selfish as*****s who only care about their precious little mutt and not other peoples safety.

    1. Frilly Keane

      We should be made to disinfect the area afterwards
      But tell us

      Who’s in charge of cleaning and sanitising public areas after rats, mice, foxes, squirrels, the birdies whatever yer having yerself?

      Don’t look at me cause it’ll be all I can do Dettoxing every pillar, post and blade of grass in the Stannaway park area.

      1. Stephen

        No you should just not be letting your dog s*** wherever it likes. If it needs a poo then let it do it in your own back garden.

        1. Cup of tea anyone?

          You could always keep your kids locked inside away from all the filthy germs.

        2. Frilly Keane

          What are the chances of my dog sh11tting where and when I tell them ta’

          I can’t get her out’ve me bed ffs

          1. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

            Do you read her the drivel you post here every week as work in progress in bed – ever wondered if that’s her only way of showing her lack of appreciation?

      2. some old queen

        Dogs are clean animals. If your provide a toilet at the entrance of the park they will use it. Why is this not a law in Ireland?

    2. Owen

      Stephen. I could not agree more. On that note, lets make a formal agreement.

      I will sign a petition to ban all dogs from parks when you sign one banning all kids with runny noses or grubby hands from any public eatery, including any kids that cry, run lose, knock anything over or generally annoy me.

      I think thats fair.

    3. AssWords

      You have a cat don’t you……..

      The thread of posts on this subject is just so flipp’n funny….. Frantic, frantic institutionalized scaremongering…..

      Your right, we should ban dogs from public spaces. “Stephen” would you mind calling to my local Nursing Home and explaining to them why I am not allowed bring my dog into them every Saturday morning for cuddles and biscuits.

    4. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

      They need to ban children from public areas and green spaces and playing fields. It’s disgusting that parents allow them to just run wild around people. Even when they do pick up after them there is still residue left behind that a child touched which could have serious consequences but parents are mostly selfish as*****s who only care about their precious little mutt and not other peoples safety.

      Fixed it.

  10. Mario Balotelli

    So, hypothetical question : everyone here who’s saying how unfair it is on the dogs, would be more than happy to have their toddler wandering around a park with unmuzzled and unleashed Pit Bulls and Rottweilers? Would you really? Or would you not just grow up and play it safe? “There are bad owners, not bad dogs”.. Give me a break..

    1. Stephen

      Exactly, when a dog feels threatened it will bite or attack and usually it’s toddlers or small children that make it feel threatened. Most dog owners are too selfish to understand this.

    2. The Real Jane

      Well it’s just a massive coincidence that a certain kind of person who is not necessarily the best owner for an animal tends to go for certain breeds of dog. Not the dog’s fault, but that makes no difference to anyone – they still have to be controlled.

    3. sqoid

      I might pick up the kid if I didn’t know the dog.
      I’d like to think that at 6 foot I’d be more threatening to a dog than a toddler, no matter how much dog filth the toddler had on their hands.
      Or I could trust in a sign to remove the threat

    4. AssWords

      Why are there toddlers rambling freely around the park?

      Ah their parents must be off teaching the “dangerous” breeds how to attack random strangers, toddler snatch and just generally upset people :) :) :)

      Got it!

      You have a cat don’t you…..

    5. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

      All dogs should be leashed, all dogs are capable of biting

        1. Dόn 'The Unstoppable Force' Pídgéόní

          You were sexist, Broadsheet spawned a monster, that’s why it was deleted.

          1. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

            your clear and indeed unwarranted gender bias against male canines was writ large in that comment don pidgey anna

  11. BlackRock Ronán

    These dogs should be shot on sight. Dogs: the other white meat. Or tofu.

  12. jeremy kyle

    Kinda off topic, but I would like to see a crackdown on people walking dogs off the lead in the city.

  13. fluffybiscuits

    The two groups are idiots

    The councillor for his ill informed post

    ARAN in my book are just over zealous vegetarians with nothing else to do

  14. realPolithicks

    He’s clearly a dogist, most of the dogs on his list are foreigners…..

  15. Maire

    It’s just a bit of common sense to put up this sort of picture as a lot of people don’t know what these restricted – not banned – breeds actually look like. It would be helpful if current legislation regarding these animals wearing muzzles in public was actually enforced.

  16. Cup of tea anyone?

    Dogs like these can be either guard dogs, or house dogs, Never both. There are responsible owners who want a house dog and the dog is trained to like everyone. There are also dog owners who need a guard dog and the dog is trained to guard its territory.
    The problem with some owners is that they try and do both and the dog is a liability.

    On a side note, Kids should be shown how to approach a dog properly. I have seen so many adults and children just reach down and touch my dog. She loves it, but no one ever checks if it is ok first.

  17. 1980s Man

    There are too many dogs.

    Years ago, dogs had jobs. They worked on farms, went hunting with gentlemen, herded livestock, searched out truffles, guarded property and chased off cats.

    Now they’re all unemployed scroungers.

    1. They Tried To Make Me Go To Rehab

      and they went down rabbit holes

      they did Dog’s work

  18. Peter Dempsey

    I hate the way people make excuses for bad dogs.

    Blaming owners. More abdication of responsibility.

    Dogs who bite humans deserve to die violent deaths.

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