Front page of the Irish Times last night
‘Lord Haw Haw’ writes:
The Irish Times called it wrong last night. Their story appeared on the front page for today. “Farage predicted Remain would ‘edge it'”. But now there is no sign of the story on the Irish Times website. Surely they should have kept the story online, for archival purposes if nothing else. The Guardian don’t indulge in this type of nonsense. It’s OK to get it wrong. It’s not OK to cover up….
Meanwhile…
The Irish Times View on #Brexit #EURefResults: A bewildering act of self-harm https://t.co/LfQcAtDzVr pic.twitter.com/M7kAQHC7GC
— Irish Times Opinion (@IrishTimesOpEd) June 24, 2016
Right so.
Bad day in the Burnaby.
Earlier: ‘Official Ireland Just Got This Totally Wrong’
Previously: IT Online Editor: Why We Removed Kate’s Article From The Irish Times Digital Archive
Broadsheet get it wrong and cover it up almost every day
Any examples?
No because they remove the posts.
It ranges from simple typos and factual errors that are corrected to headlines in really bad taste being changed all the way up to articles that are taken down for a lot of reasons.
Inasmuch as Bodger has a point: Broadsheet is not the paper of record, the Irish Times is.
That’s not much of an excuse
The piece about Kenny’s daughter working for the Web Summit during their Remain/Leave debacle was deleted pretty sharpish with no explanation.
*whistles*
Thanks Martina, We were told that we were destroying her life and, while we felt this was a little strong, not to mention heavy, we took it down. To have put up an explanation may have further added to the destruction.
You stood up to redacted…you were my heroes! Oh well.
That was the right thing to do
Rotide, the typo policy on the site is to make pride swallowing apologies and we ask readers to report any covert correcting by contributrors. We amend factual errors but don’t record what has been changed. But we probably should. Hope that helps.
Funnily enough most people don’t need typos explained.. Not Rotsey though.
Where they are typos Rotsey sees conspiracies.
The comments were turned off on one post there recently – on Frank Mullen defending himself against allegations of child sex abuse. Rotsey comes along and is all over every thread before and after, asking what did he miss, why were the comments off? He seems to feel like he’s personally owed an explanation for every editorial decision.. what a muppet.
@AnneGRY;
You and Ratsize should get an Hotel room together or something…the rest of us are trying to have a weekend, and the weather is brutal.
Give us a break, FFS.
The Times didn’t get it wrong, they reported other people’s inaccurate predictions. Then they replaced the article with something more interesting.
Terry Prone’s
Terry’s prone.
Not sure what’s supposed to be so terrible here. They reported what Farage said accurately but it’s not relevant any more, so why not replace it with more up to date information? It’s not like it’s any loss to history to have one less record of something Farage said one time.
The Real Jane, they have removed the story from the online archive. The story was a front page story today. It may save their blushes but it will be tricky and possibly weird for future historians/researchers/journalists tracking down articles that have appeared in the print edition if this practice continues. Harrumph. Everyone got it wrong except Dan Boyle obviously. https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/06/23/exit-stage-left/ Earlier soothsaying https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/02/29/calling-it-3/
‘save their blushes’? you seem to think that the IT themselves called the result wrong. they – correctly – reported that farage called the result incorrectly. i’m scratching my head as to how the IT could be embarrassed by the story?
As someone who pores over old papers and whatnot if they have removed online the article that appeared in the print edition I predict years of uncertainty. A bewildering act of self harm.
Yeah I read that they removed it from the archive. I just can’t see why that’s a problem. Stupid man says something inaccurate that had no effect is hardly worth troubling the future generations of Faragists or even Farage historians with.
I would not expect the Irish Times to remove anything of interest, significance or accuracy but this is none of the above waste of bandwidth stuff.
In my experience I would expect the Irish Times to remove something of interest, significance or accuracy if called upon by people they deem important enough.
You think the Irish Times removed this to flatter the future image of His Faragness?
The Real Jane, to flatter themselves.
please, If Catherine Murphy asked you to take something down, it would be gone quicker than any mention of your publishers name
Thank you Rotide, Not for Catherine. She has never asked. But there were two stories we did remove having being asked. And by asked I mean scary people saying we were ruining young peoples’ lives/futures. The daughter of the Tanaiste Eamon Gilmore being offered a job in the attorney general’s office within weeks of her father appointing the attorney general. And the daughter of the Taoiseach getting a job with the Web Summit when her father’s office was being lobbied by the Web Summit. We are very soft really.
The Phoenix publish this stuff all the time, though perhaps lower food chain progeny. The AG connection is in the public interest and should not have been removed IMO.
Rotide, you are such a weasel. If you don’t like the way Broadsheet conducts itself, why the fupp are you always here?
“And by asked I mean scary people saying we were ruining young peoples’ lives/futures.”
@Bodger Publish those solicitor’s letters and be damned.
think it was super lazy
the stattos knew there was a problem as soon as that Sunderland return came in and that was really early
Unless they misreported his words they got nothing wrong at all. As for changing the article, Farage being stupid and/or wrong isn’t very newsworthy, though worth recording for something to cry over as the British Isles devolve into another outpost for Immortan Joe. It’d be newsworthy if he said something that wasn’t either.
Nonsense. Cover up what? Not everything is some weird conspiracy.
Try telling that to Bodger
Thanks Daire and Kieran NYC,
Just simple record keeping.What if the publishers of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewey_Defeats_Truman destroyed every copy available because they got it wrong?
Long periods of uncertainty.
Do you/we really want that?
No, we don’t. But remember the Irish Times is all about campaigning journalism. They have an “agenda”. An audit trail of truth is not part of their narrative.
So what about that time you published a ‘false flag’ type story during a French terrorist attack?
That vanished.
You mean Brussels?
This one? That never vanished?
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/03/22/high-visibility/#comment-1585375
No, the one that analysed the shooting of a policeman in the head and decided he was ‘faking it’.
This post? https://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/01/12/liberte-egalite-hypocrisie/
@ Kieran NYC – To be be fair – Bodger has explained BS policies on posts and comments. I suspect you may be just stirring the pot to see what comes to the surface – (I watch a lot of Cooking channels on TV).
I read that last night while sitting on the jacks.
Piece should’ve been left up but updated. Farage conceded then rowed back then conceded again. Then went on his victory lap. All on twitter.
Farrage, that sounds French by any chance.
Conspiracy, i tell ye.
rhymes with garage …
Every Irish Times editorial is s bewildering act of self-abuse.
Wankers.
The fact of the matter is that there is NO harm in getting something wrong. However, to spare their blushes at calling it incorrectly they have gotten rid of the story to save their journalist’s and editor’s blushes.
I wish I could say it was a slow news day
Given that the English held a referendum that allowed their citizens the
choice to stay or go, is it not time that the remaining 20 odd nations afforded
their citizens the same right to decide the their future, the result could prove
interesting in quite a few states, even in Germany.
The elite who have taken over control of Europe and rule by “Directives” are
in for quite a few shocks, they have destroyed what should have stayed a
“Common Market” and free trade area in the pursuit of super state where the
ordinary citizen was ignored….indeed it had echoes of royal rule by divine right.
+ 1
Wow, what a sulky response from the oul wan of Tara Street. No surprise there.