Meanwhile, In Temple Bar

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Hot Press reports:

This week, a mural on the wall of the Project Arts Centre in Temple Bar, with the slogan ‘Repeal the 8th’ has attracted some controversy.

The artwork, offending or otherwise, was commissioned by ‘Hunreal Issues’, a new website that aims to share women’s issues with a wider audience and painted by renowned urban artist Maser.

It is not the first mural to appear outside the Centre, but it is definitely the most controversial. Its predecessor was a big ‘YES’ mural to honour the marriage referendum, which curiously didn’t receive any complaints.

This highlights how incredibly divisive the issue of abortion can be – at least for some.

According to Project Arts Artistic Director Cian O’Brien, the centre has received 50 complaints, but it has also attracted over 200 messages of support.

Tara Flynn: “Repeal The Eighth Mural Must Stay” (Hot Press)

Pic: Pursuit of Balance

UPDATE:

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Project Arts Centre this afternoon.

The Project Arts Centre has released the following statement:

We have taken the decision to remove the mural artwork by celebrated street artist, Maser, painted on the front of our building, after receiving a warning notice from Dublin City Council Planning Department that the work is in violation of the Planning & Development Acts (2000-2015).

Commenting on the artwork, Project Arts Centre Artistic Director, Cian O’Brien, said:

“We have had an astonishing response to this artwork by Maser and I want to thank everyone who has contributed to the conversation around this important topic. I, in no way, wish to censor or silence an artist; I respect the legal position that the DCC Planning Office is in and the parameters within which they are working. This artwork occurs in the context of many in the artistic programme.”

“It is the first time Project has been presented with a planning notice for a painted artwork on the front of our current building. Project Arts Centre is complying with the planning notice and has removed this artwork. We look forward to working through official channels with Maser and The HunReal Issues to explore the possibility of re-installing this work as soon as possible.”

Maser Artwork Subject to Planning Permission to Be Taken Down (Project Arts Centre)

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98 thoughts on “Meanwhile, In Temple Bar

  1. Guy Bague

    Take it down. Complete waste of space à la the usual Irish Times OpEd/RTE/Labour muffia suspects.

  2. Mark Dennehy

    So 4:1 in favour, but it’s coming down because that 1 are a bunch of religious extremist nutters paid from the US to lobby on a professional basis.
    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    1. newsjustin

      Is it coming down because of complaints, DCC planning or because it’ll attract more attention taking it down rather than leaving it up there to grow old?

      I’d genuinely like to know.

      1. Paul

        that space is usually used to advertise upcoming shows being performed in Project so it could be that, big show en route organised poster space.

  3. Human

    I’m 100% pro repealing the 8th but the lefty dublin types getting involved are nauseating ……..

    1. Tish Mahorey

      Translation:

      “I don’t mind abortion so long as they don’t get too uppity and I have to hear about it while having my dinner in the middle of the day”.

  4. Eoin

    While I’m pro-choice there is something deeply disturbing about a big bubbly happy friendly heart logo promoting abortion. It’s serious business. This kind of STUNNING insensitivity isn’t going to help. To me, this makes the people who put this logo up look like they have no idea what is actually involved in an abortion.

    1. Nigel

      It’s bold, striking and colourful but I would not have said bubbly or happy. It’s strong and assertive without being dour or aggressive. I’d say it captures the spirit of the repeal movement very well.

        1. Nigel

          Really? Maybe on first impression, but on examination, it doesn’t treat the subject trivially, which is what seems to be implied by ‘bubbly and happy. Seems more like an elegant evocation of the love and life that are driving the movement.

          1. Clampers Outside!

            “….more like an elegant evocation of the love and life that are driving the movement”

            Did some flower waving hippy pitch a tent up your hoop or what… that’s nonsense Nigel.

            Anger at injustice drives the movement more than anything FFS.

          2. Nigel

            How could anyone give a damn about injustice if they weren’t driven by love and life? To be angry about something you have to have a heart and feelings and care about things. Damn right I’m a goddamn hippy. I love you, Clamps.

    2. DubLoony

      Happy Heart logo used for Irish Heart foundation too!
      http://www.irishheart.ie/iopen24/happy-heart-appeal-t-10_1493.html

      How dare they! Have they no idea what is actually involved in a heart attack?
      Heart attacks are serious. Having a happy heart logo with people who have or have had survived heart attacks is insensitive. People have died from heart attacks.

      Abortion is a medical reality affecting 1 in 10 Irish women. #Repleasethe8th.

      1. Human

        Thats about having a healthy heart…. totally different message, branding 101….. again super troll level mental gymnastics going on here.

        1. DubLoony

          My point is that its a medical issue affecting women. We can’t even have a discussion about it with doctors in this country.

  5. Eoin

    What’s involved is the destruction of an organism that will be a human. It’s poor taste making a trendy logo for something like that.

    1. DubLoony

      What is currently involved is that women’s medical needs are not being discussed or met in this country.
      Long overdue that it goes #Repealthe8th

    2. The Real Jane

      Pro choice if the ladies are deserving and sad enough for me to feel like they really made the right decision but understand the gravity of what I think the situation is?

      1. DubLoony

        Why should anyone else have any say in someone else’s medical treatment?

        If a smoker develops lung cancer, is it up to anyone else to decide if they deserve treatment?
        Its a medical issue between a women, her doctor any anyone else she chooses to bring into the conversation.

        Opinions from complete strangers don’t matter, they don’t have to live with consequences. #Repealthe8th

        1. Daisy Chainsaw

          Flippin’ smokers with their self-inflicted lung cancer getting chemo on demand!! There are no organisations stopping them from getting medical treatment. But we mustn’t let women have total control over their own bodies because they can’t be trusted not to do something someone completely unconnected to their lives doesn’t like.

          The complaint and removal have led to a huge amount of publicity for Repeal The 8th movement. It’s kind of backfired.

    3. Nigel

      It’s not really about abortion directly, is it, but about the political and social movement to repeal the amendment making abortion illegal. If it was a logo for an abortion provider, you might be closer to the mark, but, i dunno, there might be something to be said for demistifying it a little.

      1. pedeyw

        Yep. I think it’s very important to seperate personal feelings on abortion from the issues around repealing the 8th. Plenty of people I’ve spoken to don’t seem to see the difference.

    1. The Real Jane

      Yes, like someone who now is not condemned to continue a pregnancy against her will. The relief!

    2. Nigel

      Not really. Cartoon hearts denote love, but what type of love depends on context, whether romantic or parental or just generalised affection. Not automatically happy and bubbly, though usually positive, certainly. Maybe you just have a problem with the Repeal movement trying to be a positive one? Surely the idea that women who undergo abortions are better off if people treat them with affection and a little positivity and avoid blame and recrimination isn’t such a bad thing?

      1. Daisy Chainsaw

        Women who murder their babies are both Nazis and Isis and need to be punished. It’s what Jesus would have wanted.

  6. whut

    the same mistakes the ‘Britain Remain’ campaigners made are being made here. Preaching to the choir. The creative side of society are making badges and art, jumpers etc. But that only gets seen by each other. If you wear a nicely designed badge with an ‘x’ thru the 8, it looks nice, its a nice design, it does not reach Mary down in tullamore who’s local priest tells her we must keep the 8th amendment. There’s no point creating things that (a) might not be directly understood or (b) wont reach the people we need to educate. Just saying repeal, or repeal the 8th, doesnt educate either. All this time, money and talent, should be used in a way to reach and educate people who are against repealing the 8th. I dont know how to do that right now, but thats what needs to be figured out.

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      There’s no point trying to “educate” Mary down in Tullamore. All this is about pressuring the government.

    2. well

      Well it must have prolife groups worried if they’re threatening to vandalise it and demand it get’s taken down.

    3. Nigel

      As if the people ‘on your side’ don’t need to be mobilised and informed and engaged.

  7. Starina

    they ALWAYS have murals but someone at DCC doesn’t like this one so suddenly it’s in violation of planning permission.

    1. The Real Jane

      My guess is that they have had complaints citing the legislation so they had no choice but to act. As a rule, I’d imagine most people are happy to ignore stuff that they don’t have to do anything about.

  8. steve knievel

    a calculated pr campaign. they knew well there would be objections and the gee mafia now get to give out.

    1. pedeyw

      That you came up with “gee mafia” over when geestapo was right there says a lot about your intelligence.

    2. Troll Whisperer

      Please, everybody, stand back. Give him some room. This one has been hurt, and badly.

      Haven’t you, old boy?

  9. Eamonn Clancy

    God be with the days when Projecet was know for controversies that took place on its stage.

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      Aye, fierce terrible altogether, this painting of a heart, t’be sure, t’be sure. I long for the good old days of low crime and plain walls.

    2. mildred st. meadowlark

      My late uncle was one of the founders of Project Arts and I can promise you he would have been behind this piece of art, and the sentiment behind it 100 percent.

  10. phil

    I thought it was only sticks and stones that could break our bones , but its may not be true anymore …..

  11. pedeyw

    I saw one of those ad trucks driving around merrion square complaining abour pro life voices being silenced
    by RTE a few weeks ago. In hindsight I wish I had complained to comreg about it.

  12. Grace

    It’s already turning into a battle – I saw this yesterday in the Sun Times:

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/pro-life-group-sends-begging-email-to-backers-76hhtdccq

    Get ready to complain about Family and Life, the anti abortion lobby group who don’t think they need to register with SIPO, and bring their billboards, lobbying, donations etc to the attention of the relevant authority figures.
    Let’s not allow a stupid amount of US money to impact on our social policies.

  13. RandomNoise

    “This highlights how incredibly divisive the issue of abortion can be – at least for some.”

    Jayson, this is divisive. Even its divisive-ness is divisive.

  14. ReproBertie

    From the Irish Times: The Pro Life Campaign responded on Monday afternoon, describing the behaviour of the Centre as “absurd and unacceptable. […] The Project Arts Centre should belong to everyone and not have such a close-minded attitude on what constitutes freedom of expression.”

    Irony overload!

    1. well

      Still waiting for Cora to report those dodgy doctors ,she claimed existed on news talk, to the Gardai.

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