“The Owner Slept On A Couch In The Kitchen”

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A Daft.ie ad for a one-bed flat on North Circular Road, Dublin, in May

This morning.

On RTÉ Radio One’s Today with Sean O’Rourke, hosted by Keelin Shanley, RTÉ journalist Brian O’Connell spoke to a third-year female student from the west of Ireland who is studying nursing in Trinity College Dublin.

Explaining her struggle to find a place to rent, she said:

“I was fortunate to have a place until May of this year, when I was in the middle of my exams, and my landlord sold the place so I was only given two weeks’ notice. So, in the middle of my exams, I’d to go find new accommodation.”

“Looking for accommodation in Dublin is like selling your soul to the devil. A lot of places are €600-plus a month and, if you’re lucky enough to find a place that’s less than that, it’s not really appropriate for living in.”

“[One place she saw was]… a double room in an apartment and, in the kitchen, the owner of the flat slept on the couch. And you weren’t able to lock your bedroom door because the bathroom was in the bedroom [en suite]… it was €600 a month for that one.

Meanwhile, on that Rent A Room scheme, which is organised by UCD Students’ Union, TCD Students’ Union and Daft.ie and where homeowners can earn up to €12,000 a year tax free by renting out a room to students, Mr O’Connell said:

“There is an issue that students have been highlighting with me and it was that, if the room is not self-contained, for example, if it’s not a separate bedsit or a converted garage say, then you have very few rights as a tenant. You’re not covered by tenant legislation, if you simply rent a room in someone’s home.

“A tenant can refer to the Small Claims Court if you have an issue but you’re not covered by the PRTB and a lot of students were saying to me that was putting them off because they could be asked to leave at kind of a week’s notice and they’d very little tenancy rights…”

Listen back in full here

Previously: Digs Out

Meanwhile…

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To dig.

Or not to dig.

Laura Gaynor writes:

A video on the benefits of ‘digs’ (for both the student and landlord) made for Newstalk…

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50 thoughts on ““The Owner Slept On A Couch In The Kitchen”

    1. DubLoony

      Am always bemused when no one expects “kids” to at least get a summer job or weekend job to help pay a chunk of the costs themselves.

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        It affects studies and you’ll want to avoid that for your kids if you can afford it. Of course plenty can’t so inequality but apparently we’ve all got the same opportunities in life and it’s your own fault you’re poor so shush.

        1. Tish Mahorey

          And isn’t it funny how the tuppence ha’penny middle class sneer at the poor and those who work menial jobs yet never stop to think how they’d get their dry cleaning delivered to their desk or their burrito Deliverood to their couch without them.

        2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

          Not true. Myself and plenty of my peers had part-time and summer jobs even though our parents could afford to send us to college. Dunno if had any effect on our studies: don’t think so.

          1. MoyestWithExcitement

            Oh ok. I guess all those people who pay their kids rent on campus and give them pocket money don’t exist because *you* got a job when you were in college. Grand.

          2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Bloody hell, but you’re hard to argue with.
            You’re always right. I give up.

          3. MoyestWithExcitement

            ‘That’s not happening because my personal experience was different’ isn’t arguing but ok. And yes. Always right.

          4. Nigel

            Yes 0lenty of people work through college but that hardly a dresses the problem of accomodating shortages and crippling rents does it? I mean you get that these are larger problems don’t you? Individual solutions and ways of coping don’t really adress the problem at the level it needs, does it?

          5. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Well what else am I going to use? Your personal experience?
            It’s not my opinion that my mates and I mostly all worked through college. We did. You said it affects studies, I disagree. I don’t think any of us would’ve done any better.
            SO NOW SO.
            But you’re right, obv.

          6. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Ah, I’m not arguing that, Nige. I completely understand that there’re larger problems but I am saying that plenty of people do work through college and it works out fine for them. It’s not all doom and gloom.
            Though I guess that’s coming from a resolutely middle-class POV: I remember there was a guy in my class who was working class and he claimed he was one of the very few in UCC. He was certainly the only working-class person studying law.

          7. Nigel

            Er that wasn’t me, though some people might find it affects their studies while others do not. Most people manage. I merely think telling people who probably already are working through college that they should try working through college doesn’t do anything to address the accommodation problem.

          8. MoyestWithExcitement

            “Well what else am I going to use?”

            To deny the existence of people living off their parents in college? Not sure, to be honest. The fact that you worked through college doesn’t prove that others didn’t work, however. Surely you understand that.

            “You said it affects studies, I disagree. I don’t think any of us would’ve done any better.”

            Jayzus. *I’m* hard to argue with. Ok. I meant, in the same post I said “so inequality but”, was ‘it *can* affect studies’. Better?

      2. Andy

        Bizare isn’t it?

        And why don’t they work during term? Christ, at most they’ve got 20 or 30 hours lectures a week. Plenty of time for another 30 hours in a part time job. Millennials eh………

        Do they get a shock when they enter the workforce? – assuming they’re not going into the public sector with their tea breaks.

        1. 15 cent

          who said they arent workin? this is all in your heads. most students do work part time. the article is about the ridiculous cost of renting little rat boxes. . . and you twits are bangin on about workin while studying .. they DO that. and the point is, working part-time in a garage or a pub or whatever wont pay your massive rent along with living costs and bills etc. You’re just sittin there goin “well im grand. so why arent they grand? whingers” .. which makes you horribel, insular dopes.

    2. Sheik Yahbouti

      Oh Christ, that’s terrible. Takes me back to my youth – a very long time ago, and even then, that would have been totally unacceptable.

    3. MyName?

      I moved from Sligo to Dublin for college 6 years ago. In the 4 years I studied here my parents gave me €100, of which I was embarrassed to take but unfortunately broke that week. Instead I got off my ass, got myself a weekend job, worked 16+ hour days, studied hard during the week and didn’t spend all my cash drinking.

      It’s completely possible, just too many students these days are too sheltered and expect too many handouts.

      1. Sheik Yahbouti

        Well done you. I know two young people who have paid pack every cent they borrowed from their parents during university days, and worked part time whilst studying. There are so many farty, entitled wagons on the go nowadays I can scarcely believe it. Parents ARE actually to blame. Mine had no problem telling me to get off my hole and get a job!

        1. Nigel

          Other people’s struggles aren’t real. In fact other people aren’t real. They’re all just facets of your personality wearing masks so you can make anything up about them and it becomes true.

  1. Paul Davis

    Moan about no property to rent which is caused by regulation on tenants rights, bed sits and property standards. Then say there is not enough regulation. Ha…

    Its one or the other people.

    1. Gah!

      It’s not that there are no properties to rent, it’s that they are extortionate prices. Looking for rental places in Dublin was always difficult. There were always queues. That was pre-regulation. Nothing has changed. The regulations are not enforced and tenants are still at the mercy of landlords. Go look around. You wouldn’t put a dog in half of them. Landlords complaining that regulation is putting them off is just nonsense. Yeah, it must be terrible having to register for tax for money earned through a business. Oh, boo fupping hoo!

      It most certainly is not one or the other. Such a stupid comment.

  2. Iwerzon

    TDs who own rental property portfolios should be prohibited from making decisions (or not making decisions) concerning the rental market.

    1. Andy

      What TD’s have a rental property “portfolios”?

      Moving on from the conspiracy theories, I would agree more politicians should be taken out away from housing supply issues.

      Apparently we’re in the middle of “housing crisis” [which the left bang on and on about] yet the SF/Labor/GP controlled DCC were/are seeking to limit building heights in Dublin city center – Dept Envir currently asking them to change their decision on this. Either there’s a housing crisis or there’s not.

  3. Disasta

    So could you not set out the rules and regulations of renting the bedroom in the house with the landlord and get it on paper and signed. Give you something to show in court.

    Why do Irish people love making other Irish people suffer just so they can get a little more coin?
    Greed is ugly.

  4. DubLoony

    I occasionally rent out to students.
    My first and last conversation with many of them consists of obtaining wifi details.

  5. fluffybiscuits

    Housing market is experiencing a massive shortage and the govt is not willing to do anything about it as the demand exceed supply the cost shoots up. Friends of friends had their rent go up by €500 per month recently for a three bed flat in Dublin 8 (they were already paying €1200 a month)

    1. Gary Byrne

      They were doing very well paying to be €1,200 for a 3 bed in D8. Not surprised it went up. I’m paying €1,650 for a 2 bed in Dundrum. Scandalous.

  6. Tish Mahorey

    I own a property in town which I rent out at a reasonable price.

    I’m thinking though I might re-rent it when the tenants move. Whack the rent up 50% and only rent it to D4 marketing knobs.

    I’d enjoy that.

    1. Neilo

      But not quite as much as the almost post-coital glow that flushes your cheeks as, once again, you punch the petit bourgeois right in the taint.

      1. Tish Mahorey

        I would yes. Currently I rent it to teachers at below market rates because the mortgage is well covered and I like the tenants.

        But marketing knobs offer nothing to society and just self obsesses and instagram every stupid hipster trend on a plate.

        So I’ll use my extra cash to buy uncool jeans and horrify them by walking in their eyeshot on along Drury street.

        1. Steve

          Tish you have an investment property in D4?? Very impressive. You must be minted so. I must remember that next time when you go off on one about FGs trampling on the lower classes and maintaining homelessness through lack of supply.

    2. Kieran NYC

      Tell us again how successful you are, Mr T.

      It’s such a shame you never tried your hand at sport. I’m sure you’d get at least FOUR international caps!

  7. Cup of tea anyone?

    Back in the early 2000’s I started college in Dublin. I worked 4 nights a week in a pub to feed cloth and house myself. I stretched out every penny to make sure I wouldn’t have to go looking to my parents for money.

    I don’t think I could do that now though. My accom was always decent and at most 100 a week. in the current housing situation I would probably pay twice that for some sh1t hole box.

    It is really depressing to see how things have turned out.

    1. Neilo

      @Cup: very much so. This shortage of affordable accommodation is throttling our development as both a society (young people not able to set up in own homes, maybe start families) and an economy (no hives for worker bees either).

    2. BobbyJ

      Similar story but went to Uni in the UK. Had a job in a hotel bar (4 – 5 shifts a week) for the 3 years I was there and it was enough to pay for fees, a decent place to live and my weekly costs. Was never ever flush but I managed to get by and get the degree I needed. Moved back to Ireland afterwards and was lucky enough to find a decent job just before the recession hit.

      I feel really sorry for the current batch of students who don’t have the bank of Mum and Dad to fall back on as I can’t see how a low paid PT job (regardless of how many hours you work) would finance a 4 year degree. We are addicted to gouging

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