20 thoughts on “De Monday Papers

    1. munkifisht

      Actually, in her speech she didn’t say much definitive on immigration other than Britain is going to do what they want to do which gives her room to maneuver when freedom of movement is unwinable with free trade and she said that free trade was essential. Brexit means Brexit, but other than giving the date there wasn’t much new in what she said.

    2. Sido

      No. She’s saying no to the freedom of movement bit in the EU set up. Though this does not affect members of the common travel area (the Irish). The freedom of movement bit has put great strain on the infrastructure of the UK welfare state with areas like Health and Education infrastructure suffering, despite a high tax burden, paid by its citizens,
      Soft Brexit is essentially, the same deal they are on now, except with “no voice at the table”. The alternative offered by the EU. And essentially only something a fool would settle for.

      1. some old queen

        Soft = Pressure from big business for free trade. Hard = Pressure from little England on immigration from Eastern Europe. Both are primarily coming from within the Tory party.

        The one thing that may actually swing it towards soft is the practicalities of needing a visa to go on holidays in mainland Europe, especially Spain.

      2. MoyestWithExcitement

        “The freedom of movement bit has put great strain on the infrastructure of the UK welfare state”

        That is simply wrong. Immigrants pay more tax than they take out. Tax breaks for the wealthy have put a strain on the welfare state. I

      3. MoyestWithExcitement

        “The alternative offered by the EU. And essentially only something a fool would settle for.”

        A fool thinks immigration is having a negative effect on the economy. A fool thinks getting to limit the amount of foreign people in the country is better for the economy than free trade with other countries. You need to be a Daily Mail reading, slogan chanting, gullible mega fool to think that.

      4. munkifisht

        This is the kind of unsubstantiated rubbish promoted by the leave campaign. No one know’s what the effect is from immigrants on social infrastructure but studies have suggested the exact opposite. The problem with the internet is it lets every be an expert, but very few people try and find fact checked sources for hte BS they spew.

  1. OirishToimes

    Irish obsession with property ownership, the Vatican and the United Kingdom continues unabated well into the 21st century.

    You’d think the Irish were incapable of deciding for themselves how to manage their affairs. Oh wait…

    If you try to take away these national fascinations, there’s nothing but the narrow little opinions of home-grown D4 bore columnists to fill your mind with between lunchtime and the six-one. It’s no wonder that the Irish drink so much.

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      Nothing about American politics at all? Pretty large occasion. Are you not one of us raggy arse Irish then?

      1. Increasing Displacement

        Any chance of taking me off moderation BS? I actually spoke to one of you roughly 2 months ago about it and they said they would. I’ve been on moderation for 4/5 months and I’ve no idea why.

          1. Increasing Displacement

            Yeah I probably should.
            Sometimes it takes a comment so long to clear it’s been eclipsed.
            And I’m all about being first. Or second. Or last.

  2. andy moore

    The Mayo Curse is a reality ! I am lucky to be typing to-day after departing the space time vortex which is Foxford !!

    1. bisted

      …I lost a good salmon after it ran under the bridge at Foxford…the FFers on the bridge cheered…yes I cursed them…

  3. Sheik Yahbouti

    So much going on on the front pages, but all that is interesting is Teresa May and immigration – (even though I agree that their immigrants contribute hugely to the UK economy). Meanwhile, on the front of one rag – a fiver on the state pensions of ordinary folk will be an election issue, which FF believes (possibly correctly) will sweep them back to power – whilst on the front of the IT we get a tiny flavour of what the Civil Service is actually costing each and every one of us, and there’s no interest.

    1. Neilo

      @Sheikh – thanks for the spot on that story about civil servants: an astonishing drain on our resources. Lord Salisbury was said to run the British Empire with just 52 of the blighters!

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