i believe you’re thinking of Soviet Communism, not general socialism.
Neilo
Potayto, potahto: a foodstuff even rarer than Toblerone since the apparatchiks developed a fierce hunger for mash and/or chips :)
Starina
but never the two on the same plate, for such are the building blocks or bourgeois capitalist decadence
Neilo
Hah! I like your style, Starina.
human
Hey Starina , I know your an expert on every topic even things you have no experience of, next time you encounter a polish person who grew up in the 80’s or 90’s ask them about socialism .
dav
and when your at it could you ask the people who grew up during the great depression about capitalism and how it’s busts leads to fascism??
human
Ehhhh are you mentally deficient dav? You can’t ask dead people about the 1930’s.
Maybe you Marxists should stop reading your dusty old fantasy books about workers cycling to the factory in socialist utopia’s and actually get out and speak to people.
brownbull
if it is to meet needs it won’t be made out of chocolate, it will be made out of cabbage
Neilo
Cabbage fertilised with the blood of the hated kulaks, of course.
Jake38
Of course, the Soviet Union was known for its excellent chocolate.
It all makes such sense now.
Rob_G
Chocolate in former eastern bloc countries is still generally vile; fierce artificial rum flavour off chocolate in Romania.
Robert
What you can’t see from the picture is that the top one is in fact made of cardboard
De Kloot
Or contaminated milk powder from their Comrades in arms in China. I’d also reckon that they use the crunched bones of those who failed the reeducation thru labour programs for the praline…
Neilo
A Potemkin chocolate bar? Intriguing,
Cian
The AAA would have nationalised the Frys factory in Kerry the first time they tried to lay someone off, and we’ve have Irish Chocolate (state-owned enshrined in the constitution) Five Boys as the only chocolate bar in the country.
Delusional trotskyism doesn’t even deserve to be called socialism.
Paddy
Except that it was a Fry Cadbury factory, not a Frys. You find it difficult to get facts correct then?
Neilo
A typo is entirely more germane than Cian’s more salient point: an ideology that has slaughtered and enslaved tens of millons in the last century can still be espoused with a straight face by a public representative doubtless old enough to know better.
Seosamh
The ideology itself killed ten billion people? Can all crimes be ascribed to the economic system in which they take place? If so, capitalism has surely enslaved and slaughtered more by simply existing for longer. Therefore, as all regimes have blood on their hands, the only reasonable ideology to espouse is PURE ANARCHY.
Yeah?
Neilo
Its most zealous adherents.
Seosamh
Was Pinochet not a zealous neoliberal? Is Putin not in power thanks to a laissez-faire oligarchy? Saying “people died” is not a useful critique of socialism
Neilo
Opinions differ: I can’t think of a more apposite critique.
Seosamh
OK. Apply it to the capitalist regimes mentioned as well. What conclusion can you possibly draw about the merits of one system over the other?
Rob_G
There has never, ever been a large-scale experiment of implementing ‘socialism’ that did not involve the deaths of thousands, and the subjugation of millions.
Conversely, I cannot think of a single democracy that isn’t based, to a greater or lesser extent, on capitalism (along with varying degrees of state intervention in a number of areas, of course.
Neilo
@Rob_G: Venezuela is an up-to-the-minute illustration of your assertion. Unless a change in government is accompanied by a serious uptick in oil prices, famine may well join that benighted country’s litany of horrors.
Seosamh
lol
Rob_G
Well done, Paddy; with your pedantry you managed to single-handedly put to bed forever the debate over which is better, capitalism or socialism.
Cian
Yes, that completely changes the entire point, doesn’t it…
Andy
You can buy the 2nd one yourself of have someone else pay for the first one.
petey
that’s excellent, am going to copy and paste it everywhere
Joxer
ah the same old same olds plying their same old schtick
Neilo
As ápropos a description of ‘useful idiots’ as we’ll hear today. Thanks, Joxer!
Sheik Yahbouti
As apropos a description of “a bunch of boring bolishes” as we’ll hear today. Thanks all.
Rob_G
Am I only one that thinks the new toblerones are maybe better? The larger spaces mean it is easier to get leverage to break off each triangle.
Jake38
Yes.
You are the only one.
Sheik Yahbouti
+1
petey
+11
Neilo
Sorry, Rob but in this case it is ‘just you’. Your soundness on every other issue is beyond reproach, it that’s any consolation.
Except it’s the other way around currently, we have socialism now… though that may be hard for you to swallow.
Toblerones are hard to swallow.
because of their shape.
I’m helping.
Try chewing first
at school you should have learned not to put the triangular peg into the circular hole. Never ever eat a Toblerone.
wouldn’t have existed in socialism tbh
The socialists I’ve spoken to tend to know the least about socialism
+1
i believe you’re thinking of Soviet Communism, not general socialism.
Potayto, potahto: a foodstuff even rarer than Toblerone since the apparatchiks developed a fierce hunger for mash and/or chips :)
but never the two on the same plate, for such are the building blocks or bourgeois capitalist decadence
Hah! I like your style, Starina.
Hey Starina , I know your an expert on every topic even things you have no experience of, next time you encounter a polish person who grew up in the 80’s or 90’s ask them about socialism .
and when your at it could you ask the people who grew up during the great depression about capitalism and how it’s busts leads to fascism??
Ehhhh are you mentally deficient dav? You can’t ask dead people about the 1930’s.
hey human, read a book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQb7Y5QVO8
Maybe you Marxists should stop reading your dusty old fantasy books about workers cycling to the factory in socialist utopia’s and actually get out and speak to people.
if it is to meet needs it won’t be made out of chocolate, it will be made out of cabbage
Cabbage fertilised with the blood of the hated kulaks, of course.
Of course, the Soviet Union was known for its excellent chocolate.
It all makes such sense now.
Chocolate in former eastern bloc countries is still generally vile; fierce artificial rum flavour off chocolate in Romania.
What you can’t see from the picture is that the top one is in fact made of cardboard
Or contaminated milk powder from their Comrades in arms in China. I’d also reckon that they use the crunched bones of those who failed the reeducation thru labour programs for the praline…
A Potemkin chocolate bar? Intriguing,
The AAA would have nationalised the Frys factory in Kerry the first time they tried to lay someone off, and we’ve have Irish Chocolate (state-owned enshrined in the constitution) Five Boys as the only chocolate bar in the country.
Delusional trotskyism doesn’t even deserve to be called socialism.
Except that it was a Fry Cadbury factory, not a Frys. You find it difficult to get facts correct then?
A typo is entirely more germane than Cian’s more salient point: an ideology that has slaughtered and enslaved tens of millons in the last century can still be espoused with a straight face by a public representative doubtless old enough to know better.
The ideology itself killed ten billion people? Can all crimes be ascribed to the economic system in which they take place? If so, capitalism has surely enslaved and slaughtered more by simply existing for longer. Therefore, as all regimes have blood on their hands, the only reasonable ideology to espouse is PURE ANARCHY.
Yeah?
Its most zealous adherents.
Was Pinochet not a zealous neoliberal? Is Putin not in power thanks to a laissez-faire oligarchy? Saying “people died” is not a useful critique of socialism
Opinions differ: I can’t think of a more apposite critique.
OK. Apply it to the capitalist regimes mentioned as well. What conclusion can you possibly draw about the merits of one system over the other?
There has never, ever been a large-scale experiment of implementing ‘socialism’ that did not involve the deaths of thousands, and the subjugation of millions.
Conversely, I cannot think of a single democracy that isn’t based, to a greater or lesser extent, on capitalism (along with varying degrees of state intervention in a number of areas, of course.
@Rob_G: Venezuela is an up-to-the-minute illustration of your assertion. Unless a change in government is accompanied by a serious uptick in oil prices, famine may well join that benighted country’s litany of horrors.
lol
Well done, Paddy; with your pedantry you managed to single-handedly put to bed forever the debate over which is better, capitalism or socialism.
Yes, that completely changes the entire point, doesn’t it…
You can buy the 2nd one yourself of have someone else pay for the first one.
that’s excellent, am going to copy and paste it everywhere
ah the same old same olds plying their same old schtick
As ápropos a description of ‘useful idiots’ as we’ll hear today. Thanks, Joxer!
As apropos a description of “a bunch of boring bolishes” as we’ll hear today. Thanks all.
Am I only one that thinks the new toblerones are maybe better? The larger spaces mean it is easier to get leverage to break off each triangle.
Yes.
You are the only one.
+1
+11
Sorry, Rob but in this case it is ‘just you’. Your soundness on every other issue is beyond reproach, it that’s any consolation.
#TobleroneTruther
Lickarse.