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By Mick Flavin

Context and context

33 thoughts on “Reville In It

    1. LiamZero

      YOU don’t get it? That’s really unusual! Here, I’ll explain:

      Basically, Mick is calling out someone who people used to assume was a trustworthy correspondent with a benign reputation but who lately appears to have taken an unexpected turn towards dangerous and patently false views (in this case, on immigration and immigrants).

      No, seriously, that is really the joke. I can’t believe the synchronicity either.

      1. Clampers Outside

        Thanks LiamZero, there’s nothing patently false about the population birth rates of Europeans, or immigrants to Europe.

        In the article linked he speaks about numbers, birth rates, etc. Nothing racist about that, poor people have always had more kids.
        Are there other articles… links on IT are just siloed crap… as usual by them.

        So… do you know what’s the ‘phrenology’ connection? Cheers

        1. Brother Barnabas

          there’s a fairly blatant suggestion that we should be worried about our European DNA being polluted by the incoming darkies

          I would think that’s a pretty offensive objection to immigration

          maybe not racist but certainly repugnant

          1. Brother Barnabas

            Phrenology = racist non-science

            the ‘science’ used to justify slavery

            and perhaps now the ‘science’ we could use to oppose immigration

  1. Fact Checker

    I don’t agree with Reville that western culture is threatened by immigration. But this is really a question of taste.

    The really stupid thing in his article is that he dismissed the economic arguments in favour of migration from poor to rich countries.

    Immigration is the single most powerful tool for bettering the lives of a very large number of the world’s citizens not fortunate enough to be born into affluence.

    Read more: https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jep.25.3.83

    1. Brother Barnabas

      From what I can tell, pretty much everyone acknowledges the economic benefits of immigration It’s the supposed impact on national identity, polite society, culture etc that freaks out opponents. Reville has been hamming this up quite a bit of late. He’s tiptoeing around – I assume because he’s afraid of being called a racist. But other than “if we don’t deal with immigration, the typical European is going to be a few shades darker and a fair bit less Christian in 50 years” (which is probably true, but so what?), I don’t really see what he’s saying. Would. welcome a clarification, of course.

    2. Turgenev

      Immigration is also good for the countries people migrate to – look at 20th-century America, profiting from the 19th-century waves of Irish, German, Chinese, Italian and Scandinavian immigrants, and the northern states profiting from the upflow of skilled ex-slaves after Jubilee.
      Look at Spain after the expulsion of the Moors and Jews; a soaring economy stalled, faltered and fell.

    3. Clampers Outside

      But he’s on about low European birth rates… not the reasons why people immigrate, in the linked article.

      I don’t see how he dismissed any economic arguments for immigration… he doesn’t discuss any reasons for immigration.
      He talks about birth rates of native Europeans, which are in decline… this is a well known fact, but not well discussed in public.

      With regard to the actual headline and question in the linked article – Let’s talk about the link between immigration and low reproduction rates. How did we lose the will to replace ourselves and, knowing the demographic consequences of losing that will, can we reclaim it? – I believe that once gone into a nose dive, the birth rate won’t recover and you’ll end up with a new majority population derived from immigrants after a few generations. What’s the issue?

      He does say at the start ‘cultures will vanish’ if the decline continues…. is this the issue? It’ll change for sure, possibly become quite different, but I don’t think it’ll be unrecognizable in a few generations… it’ll evolve..

      Has he written some other stuff not linked in the ‘context’ or something…

  2. Peter Dempsey

    I think Reville is pro life. Therefore as he doesn’t share the exact same views as Mick Flavin, the latter will lampoon away. Such tolerance Mick!

    1. Brother Barnabas

      perhaps more to do with Reville and his ilk using lies and hysteria to promote their agenda

      he’s up there with the iona institute

  3. bisted

    …just while we are on the subject…could Squee or some of the politicos fond of making pronouncements on behalf of the ‘Irish people’ please thank our current wave of immigrants for thier contribution to the country’s gene pool…

    1. Geraldus Galwensis

      Now you’re mentioning something interesting: the country’s gene pool. It was added to long ago by the Firbolg, the Tuatha De Danann, the marauding Vikings (who gave the name Dubh Linn to the Big Smoke), the invading French and Anglo Normans, the Anglos, the plantation lowlands Scots, the occasional Welsh who came over from Holyhead, the Returned Yanks who traced their ancestors and settled here… I could go on about genetics. Wasn’t Sean Lemass a descendant of the Lemais Normans, and wasn’t de Valera of Irish-Hispanic origin (study his nose, geneticists) and wasn’t That Man Pearse of Hiberno-English stock? Thin Lizzy guitarist Phil Lynott had an Afro-Carribbean father, Cecil Parris. And loudmouth musician Geldof – Belgian-Jewish ancestry, which accounts for the brains if not the mouth. Bring on the development of the national gene pool.

      1. bisted

        …think you left out the survivors of the Spanish Armada in the west…without whom we certainly would not have a certain ‘Galway girl’ …

        1. Geraldus Galwensis

          Yes indeed, the Galwegian women often have Hispanic features. Picasso would have painted them wonderfully cubist if he’d spent a year in in Barna learning the Gaelic. I forgot to mention Bob Quinn’s films suggesting that North African sailing folk reached the west coast fadó fadó – there seems to be an Arabian streak in some of us.

  4. Janet, I ate my avatar

    inbreeding produces gormless that’s who write silly nonsensical letters and who don’t understand the strenght of mixed genes

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