185 thoughts on “Black Flu

  1. Daddy

    That’ll require me not to walk down the garden past the trees to the home office.

    If a self employed person doesn’t turn up for work, will anyone hear?

    1. ReproBertie

      If you tweet him a picture of you wearing black and not in work on March 8th he’ll pay your wages for that day!

    2. EightersGonnaEight

      They carry around the whiff of self-righteousness for sure.

      Strike? I’d bet none of them is in paid employment anyway.

      1. Starina

        omg i absolutely adore when men suddenly care about equality when it’s to tell feminists they’redoing it wrong! ♡♡♡

    1. classter

      This is a topic where one has to choose whether to come down on the side of the adult woman or an unborn foetus. It is rather difficult to choose the latter & demand that women be forced to carry pregnancies they don’t desire and still be a ‘feminist’

      1. ReproBertie

        “This is a topic where one has to choose whether to come down on the side of the adult woman or an unborn foetus.”
        No, this is a topic where you have to decide whether it’s right to deny other people that choice or not.

  2. Smith

    I support a repeal of the 8th Amendment, but people on strike from different workplaces doesn’t make any sense and won’t take off. Employers have nothing to do with this, so why should they be at a loss anyway. This is really ridiculous.

    1. classter

      Likely, I’ll be working away but I like the idea.

      I also think it is interesting how you think it is invalid for them to protest in this manner.

      1. Smith

        It’s interesting how you attach a different meaning to my point.

        It’s also not very interesting that you feel the need to say that you like the idea, but will work that day instead.

          1. Graham F

            dear BS, I think the word I used was perfectly acceptable. I gave it some thought actually. as benign as “pocket marbles” but not as graphically descriptive.

        1. classter

          ‘It’s interesting how you attach a different meaning to my point.’

          ‘Employers have nothing to do with this, so why should they be at a loss anyway. This is really ridiculous.’

          How is this not suggesting that protesting in this manner is invalid?

        1. Clampers Outside!

          That’s a nice mirror you’re talkin’ to Starina.

          You go ahead and believe in your pseudo academic claptrap, just don’t ask me to swallow some bitter feminist view of the world that is a divisory ideology that purports to be about equality.

          Equality, not ideology !
          Egalitarianism before feminism !

          1. Lucy

            I’m a little confused, you come across as so furious and bitter about feminism, why is it? Did feminism murder your granny or something?
            Do you genuinely believe we have equality of opportunity right now?
            I completely understand if you think there are bigger battles to fight, but you seem to not just want to not get involved, but to actively crusade against feminism like it’s some religious thing.
            I would actually like to understand, though I’m not sure we will find any common ground here, it’s worth a go right!?

          2. Clampers Outside!

            Google problems with The Duluth Model Lucy.

            Feminism and it’s disgusting theories of hate as practiced in the arena of domestic violence is a very provable problem – the theory of patriarchy as exercised through the Duluth Model asserts without exception that men are the only perpetrators of domestic violence; and women are only to be seen as victims without exception. That’s the teaching of feminist ideology regardless of facts.
            Facts show otherwise, the world over. I have posted numerous times on this.

            Closer to home. Take one look at the SAFEIreland Conference of Nov 2016, where the SAFEIreland feminist interest group that purports to be an interest group looking to advance the understanding and reduction of DV in Ireland actually hires speakers who say that male victim statistics of domestic violence are “unhelpful” and “dangerous” to their movement… so yeah, as someone who experienced seven years of domestic abuse, two of which were violent… I am somewhat annoyed, yes, you could say that.

            I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and I’ll understand, and I will not consider your hostility and mock concern, passive aggression, towards persons like myself who have endured abuse is intentional, but is likely due to your own bias and ignorance of the subject, rather than malicious intent.

            Equality, not ideology !
            Truth and honesty in research, not advocacy !

            The following video if you are genuinely concerned will show you the truth from countries all over the western world.
            And keep in mind that feminism has campaigned (eg: SAFEIreland conference speaker Karen Ingala Smith) against such research being done….

            Thank you, and have a pleasant evening.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtOsEkY_UHc

          3. Lucy

            Hey champers, no idea if you have an alert on, so might be just shouting into the void here, but just popped back myself, as I am truly interested in your response.
            There was certainly no intention of passive aggression, more open hostility to someone who can’t witness a campaign for repeal of the 8th without trying to use it to campaign against feminism.
            While I’m truly sorry to hear you experienced domestic abuse, that is awful, what comes across here is, firstly, that you think feminists are all aligned with these groups, which isn’t true. The vast majority are interested in bodily autonomy, equal pay, and acceptance within society that stuff like street harassment isn’t great.
            The other issue is, you seem to be under the impression that feminists should primarily be interested in campaigning for male victims of domestic violence before trying to deal with issues like repeal of the 8th amendment, and that is morally repugnant to me.
            If you want to campaign for male victims of dv, I’ll sign your petitions and happily support you! But using feminism as a scapegoat for the abuse you experienced is shameful and illogical behaviour.

    2. Dolores Delorean

      Should front line nurses who save lives take time off work? And ambulance drivers and paramedics and police? or do potential strikers also have a choice?

      1. Niamh

        Read the actual proposal. It’s not a literal or traditional industrial strike. They are encouraging people to book the day off, refrain from certain forms of work, or, if male, compensate by doing the work of female colleagues for the day – or just wear black, wear an arm band – to draw attention to the time women have to take off work to travel to England for abortions. Drawing attention to our role in the workforce and as citizens. It’s not about punishing businesses, it’s a declaration of our importance and hidden obligations and a demand for a referendum to be called on the issue of abortion.

        Or, you know, just take a deep breath or something.

  3. realPolithicks

    “i don’t know what they’re so worried about”

    That’s probably because you’re not very bright.

  4. some young queen

    most leftists are unemployed or work menial minimum wage shifts, cant see this making much headway

  5. eric cartman

    maybe if the repeal campaign stopped being fronted by unemployed women with odd hairstyles/colours who don’t smile then people would take them more seriously.

    YOU DON’T NEED TO CONVINCE OTHER HIPSTERS,
    ITS OLD PEOPLE WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND YOUR GIMMICK THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT ON SIDE.

    1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

      You need to shut up Eric.
      – Your arbitrary use of pretend enunciation is not needed.
      – You say nothing.

      – Your wanton abuse of capitalisation is an affront to my sensibilities.
      – It just makes you look a bit silly.

      I’m heading out to the off-licence. FU.
      I’ll be back in 20 minutes.

      FIGHT
      Go to bed.

    2. Happy Molloy

      You’re right Eric, and it really seems that a good portion of those who head these campaigns genuinely hate those who they need to convince and therefore are pretty useless at winning people over

    3. Niamh

      Do you know these women personally? Because I do, and your comment is factually incorrect on several levels.

        1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

          I like you bertie.
          I like you a lot.

          Believe it or not but I was on the very verge of writing for Broadsheet one day, not too long ago…
          Then they did what they did to you, and I said to myself… Whoah… slow down Cowboy…

          I still have all the e-mails to prove it.
          One-directional, if you get me bad at meaning…

          I owe you that… You saved me.
          I’ll never forget.

          Never.

          1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            I can’t find me smokes, and I don’t know where I left me bokkle o’ drink…

            It’s NOT funny.
            I swear to god…
            …if I catch one of you smiling there will be trouble, If I catch you twice it will be double…

          2. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            Needless to say, everything is …._ _ _ _..

            Entries on the back of a £5 note.
            Your Ma is not allowed enter. (Not my rule.)

  6. Junkface

    Jesus lads, not very compassionate towards women in the comments. They’re fighting for a basic human right and the Government has been playing the cute hoor for years with this, putting off a referendum over and over, or extending it to the epicly long finger. We’ve had a succession of spineless Gov’ts in what many would consider “modern Ireland” and yet women don’t have this basic human right, and as we saw a couple of years ago, a woman called Savita died uneccessarily in a Galway hospital during birth complications in a “Catholic country” hospital. I totally support them in their strike. The Irish Govt don’t understand the neccessity of anything until we put a gun to their heads (Threaten the beloved Economy).

    Feminism is totally misunderstood by a lot Irish men it seems. A more equal society would be better all round for everyone.

        1. Dolores Delorean

          they can also choose not to conceive one in the first place – that choice does actually exist – except in rape cases obviously – that goes without saying

          1. Nigel

            The right to choose not to conceive isn’t as much of an issue any more. A relatively recent development.

      1. Junkface

        Well there are tonnes of places to look online to educate yourself about birth complications, foetal abnormalities and the sometimes difficult choices medical staff have to face. Save the woman in difficulty who might die, or let them both die. Which do you think is right?

        Choice is better than No choice, options are better then no options and desperation.

        1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

          … but y’know, a law that abdicated Health Professionals from being sued for doing the job they were trained to do…looking after womens’ health…
          – Would you not consider that for a moment, you obviously MALE monster?

          Just sayin’…

          1. Graham F

            I think you’ll find monsters are gender neutral

            there are probably some trandgender ones these days though

            point still stands

      2. Daisy Chainsaw

        Gonads, if you know of babies being killed, ring 999 and report it to the gardai. Abortion ends a pregnancy and in over 92% of abortions, there’s no baby – there’s barely a foetus because it takes place by taking tablets before the gestation has hit double figures.

      3. classter

        A) It ain’t killing ‘babies’
        B) We don’t mandate organ donation to save the lives of others, why should individual women be forced to carry pregnancies.

      4. Starina

        they’re not babies, they are clumps of cells without conciousness or the ability to survive outside the womb at that stage. catch up, mate.

      1. Nigel

        You can. I’m not sure how workable it really is. As it were. I don’t think there’s enough job security out there for this kind of mass strike to take off.

  7. classter

    My guess is that none of them are beyond child-bearing age.

    But either way, that is completely beside the point. I suspect you know well, but Repeal is about more than the desire for some individuals to have an abortion. You get that right?

  8. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    I’m sorry nigel…
    – You seem slightly inept and out of your depth, like a Farage…
    whatever…

    This other idiot, the ‘Rob_G ‘ one…
    He sounds like a pussy grabber… Let me deal with him first.

    Not tonight…
    …in my own time….

  9. rotide

    Accusing the government of using the citizens convention as a delaying tactic is just blind stupidity. That convention is the best way to have a referendum actually happen as a government calling it can point to the results of the convention and say ‘well, the people asked for it’.

    1. Lucy

      Well I think the best way of it to actually happen would be for the government to call a referendum. They are our elected citizens assembly, abdicating their responsibilities. I do see issues with this plan, but can’t fault people for trying it. At least they’re doing something.

      1. rotide

        Suppose they call a referendum. Suppose it passes by 55-45. Are the pro-life side then justified in saying the government is abdicating it’s responsibility by not calling a follow up referendum? They’ll have all sort of facts and figures and polls etc.

        Using the citizens assembly and it’s pretty much guarenteed recommendation for a referendum is the best way forward

        1. Lucy

          But how does the citizens assembly change that? There are currently all sorts of polls showing wide support for repeal of the 8th, which they have been ignoring for years. Why do you feel it makes sense that they couldn’t ignore pro life polls when they have been doing that with pro choice ones for years?

          1. rotide

            You are asserting that they shouldn’t ignore the polls. I am asserting that you wouldn’t be so quick to call the government out on abdicating their responsibilities and ignoring the polls if the situation was reversed.

            The CC is a positive step. It will recommend a referendum and that will be a far stronger mandate than a gallup poll in a newspaper because the government convened that CC.

          2. Lucy

            I don’t fully understand your point here. Are you saying that I should be equally supportive of a popular viewpoint if it involved removing women’s rights rather than granting them?
            In a way I guess that’s correct, I am pro choice, I do feel that the situations women are placed in by our governments refusal to do it’s duty since 1983 is completely shameful.
            Anyway, doesn’t seem like there’s much chance of such a large proportion of our population protesting for the alternative, and certainly no chance of organisations like the UN giving them an extra excuse by pointing out that the current situation contravenes womens rights on a regular basis.

  10. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    I like making jokes you have to read several times before you get them…
    (Ride ’em in) rotide wrote one for me earlier on…
    – It went like this…
    That convention is the best way to have a referendum actually happen as a government calling it can point to the results of the convention and say ‘well, the people asked for it’.

    I don’t care what you think… That IS funny.
    I don’t care what he/she meant… That IS funny two.

    Why is there not MORE stupidy eejits or so many?
    – It’s all Law-di-daw nonsesesencical rubbish.

    1. Rob_G

      Would you ever consider starting up your own Live Journal, so that we might be spared your scutter?

  11. Donal

    I’m pro-choice and also think this campaign is stupid
    The government (any Irish government) is made up of dozens of TD’s with razor thin margins. Like it or not there is still a big anti choice movement out there that could easily sink most TDs re-election hopes. The Convention gives them the cover to tell constituents “sure what could I do”. That makes it the most realistic way of getting this referendum going.

    Aside from that the whole “drop your plan and follow our plan in 6 weeks or else” approach is really arrogant – guaranteed to fail and will win nobody over. Better to keep telling real people’s stories of the suffering that this law is causing every day

    1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

      Donal-nut.
      Guess who empowers them?

      Guess who makes Oireland?
      … Not yer Ma… I was talking to her last night, or should I say ‘she was talking to me’….
      – I wasn’t listening.

    2. delacaravanio

      This citizen’s assembly is an abdication of responsibility by our (well paid) politicians. We’ve had abortion referendums before, and you can be damn well sure we’ll have them again. If they want “cover” then let them go into some other job, or buy a hat.

      These women are right to protest. I support them.

    3. Niamh

      ‘Aside from that the whole “drop your plan and follow our plan in 6 weeks or else” approach is really arrogant – guaranteed to fail and will win nobody over. Better to keep telling real people’s stories of the suffering that this law is causing every day.’

      This has been our approach since the 1980s. Still waiting. You see, we can’t wait – every year we wait more of us, women who’ve never had a chance to vote on this, suffer due to this law. You can probably wait. Good for you. You don’t have a f*pping uterus.

      Do you think Rosa Parks’ stand was arrogant too? She should have waited out a few more dozen lychings, and the tide would have turned on its own? Sit down little women until I find you enough of a victim to condescend to with a referendum?

  12. blackasbeams

    So many comments…
    …so few of them relevant to the original topic…

    Now that’s what I call amusing Volume 69.

  13. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    I’m very drunk.
    I should apologise to any idiotb I might have seemed abusive to earlier.
    It wasnn’tb yourb faultb.

    Chillb.

  14. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    It’s 3am.
    I just rediscovered a large box of CDs in one of my bedrooms. Be thankful you don’t live within earshot of my jukebox.
    100+ are Lee ‘Scratch’ Perry. 70 more are The Fall.
    The rest can wait.

    Tallaght, it’s your lucky, lucky night…

    Bring more speakers.

  15. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

    I’m sworn to secrecy about what Paaul McGuinnnesss* bought from me…
    … Let’s just say that Louise Le Wwalsh wasn’t the first, and we sold some weird books in that shop… and Mr. McGuinnnesss bought all of them.

    *Not you Paul, you suing b*start, or you Looouis, you botoxed little upstart.
    – I know your game. Everybody knows your game.

  16. Eamonn Clancy

    The needle in my Gobshitery counter has broken. Mattress Mick, your crown please, and to the lady behind this idea, please kneel.

  17. Verbatim

    Wearing black on the International Women’s day good idea. Asking women not to work on that day, I can’t see it taking off. This is an issue worth creating a hue and cry over, CALL Soros to help!

  18. Boba Fettucine

    Also, on the basis of this video it will be very hard to get a coffee in the IFI and IMMA’s permanent collections may be dangerously uninvigilated.

  19. Starina

    from these comments i basically see a load of sad dudes who feel resentful that educated women with nice hair have better things to do than cook for them.

    1. Boba Fettucine

      I was trying to make a point that the instruction to ‘not do domestic work’ is a little anachronistic as it implies a bizarre 1950s setup where women are solely responsible for this work. Like most people I know, in my household cooking/cleaning/childcare is divided equally. So as a male, should I also refrain from domestic work? Or should I do all the domestic work because of my role as part of the Patriarchy? Or maybe we should both get it all done the day before the strike?

      Unless you’re saying that men can’t be involved in this action?

      1. Neil is a gum

        What sort of nonsense is this? Do you interpret every single thing a woman says to you literally?

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      So, let me make sure I have this quite clear, Clampers.

      Because CERTAIN people were ‘hijacking’ this march for their own purpose and agenda, that immediately nullifies the intentions of the people who went there to march for women in good faith, with the belief that they may affect change. Do I have that right?

      1. Clampers Outside!

        No…. just this bit…. it’s was intended to be a ‘solidarity’ march, but it wasn’t in all truth, honesty and fairness. That’s all.

        “But the attempted hijacking of the march’s agenda and all the nasty tit-for-tat between white versus black/queer/Muslim/trans and other identities tells a very disturbing story about the divided state of feminism today. The separatist, inward-looking politics that helped drive Trump to power and Clinton into oblivion is not going away — in fact it is becoming more entrenched, and all for the better, say organizers bent on highlighting women’s differences rather than their commonality as American and international citizens.

        Just go to the official Facebook page of the march and associated events, read the online discussions, and there amid the enthusiasm and excitement you will witness the unfiltered and unedifying spectacle of women going at each other not because of the content of their character but because of the color of their skin, their gender, ethnicity, or religion.”

        1. Starina

          that article is a white woman lecturing WOC about how they shouldn’t be mad about how a lot of white feminists are as-yet noninclusive and unsupportive of their non-white comrades’ causes. and she has the nerve to quote MLK to condescendingly give out to them.
          basically, clamps, stop telling women how to protest.

          1. Nigel

            Seriously. ‘Look they’re disagreeing with each other and debating issues but still getting together to march! That shows it’s not about unity!’ if they were all in agreement about everything it’d be ‘Look! A terrifying hive-mind marching in lock-step with no disagreement or debate allowed!’

        2. ReproBertie

          That article was written before the march. You can be sure that a very small percentage of those marching knew about or cared about the internal politics of the organisers.

          100,000 people marched in Dublin in protest against the War in Iraq. The Socialist Party and Sinn Féin were handing out banners. That doesn’t mean that the people marching were marching in support of SP or SF or their policies. Similarly, the millions of women marching on Saturday were not marching to divide just because some people associated with the march were sniping on FB about race and sexual orientation.

        3. mildred st. meadowlark

          I read the article Clampers. I just wanted to be sure what your position on it was.

          I think you’re completely wrong btw. Because some woman writes an opinion piece on the march, you’re going to base all of your assumptions on that? And anecdotal evidence from FACEBOOK? The bastion of truth itself.

          There were plenty of people who chose to use the anti-Vietnam marches, or the MLK marches for their own agenda. That does not discredit or lessen the efforts and the convictions of those who were there to genuinely march for change.

          If you want my honest opinion, and you may not, I think that you are allowing your dislike of modern feminism to bias your thinking.

          1. Clampers Outside!

            No I base it on the fact they ban some pro-lifers and allow other pro-lifers. The whole thing was a bad joke, and duped a lot into thinking it was genuine ‘solidarity’ for ALL women, when clearly it was about selective ‘solidarity’.

          2. mildred st. meadowlark

            And this makes you feel that the message sent by the march has been muddied by the politics behind it?

            I can understand that. I don’t agree with banning anyone who wished to march in solidarity with women, that sort of holier-than-thou attitude, but I do realise that it will never be so clear-cut as that.
            I do think that the march did achieve something of the message it wished to convey. It was reported on all over the world. There is a level of positivity to that.

          3. Clampers Outside!

            True Mildred.

            But some organisers are now going to take the credit, take their new found clout and use it for their own means… and that Linda Sarsour wants Sharia Law in the US.
            And now she has a massive platform to continue… and she’ll get funding too.

            That’s the biggest down side, in all fairness.

          4. Starina

            that Linda Sarsour thing has been blown out of proportion by people who don’t understand sarcasm. i hate to use this phrase but stop drinking the kool-aid, clamps

          5. mildred st. meadowlark

            How good of you to imply that by being a feminist you must be lacking in logic and the ability to actually think.

            Not once have I implied that Clampers is stupid for his opinions. He is as entitled to them, and I am challenging some of the points he made. The very least you could do is be respectful of that.

    2. Nigel

      That whole article boils down to ‘people I disagree with and dislike, and who disagree with each other on some issues, are going on this big march.’ It’s a complete mystery, isn’t it, how a march about solidarity and unity can include people you don’t like or disagree with?

      I remember broadly similar attacks on the ant-war demonstrations during Bush 2. The war in Iraq still turned out to be an incredible catastrophe. The presence of fringe groups and radicals and people who otherwise disagreed with each other – and who I disagreed with, incidentally – didn’t make the demonstrations one iota less right about the war being a bad idea. Neither were they sufficient to stop the war, of course, but sure, tell us again how you’re not pro-Trumo when your piddling attacks are focused on the imperfections of the people opposing him. The motes in the eyes of the marchers is magnified disproportionately, the beams in the eyes of Trump and his supporters are sidelined and ignored.

      ‘More to do with creating division.’ Or those divisions and debates already exist and efforts to heal them or bridge them are ongoing.

      1. Clampers Outside!

        “efforts to heal them or bridge them are ongoing” LOL… how so, through closing down debate because you don’t like someone else’s opinions and shouting racist, bigot, etc or something just as pig ignorant…. put a sock in it Nigel.

        1. Starina

          it’s not closing down debate, it’s disagreeing with you. or do you need a safe space echo chamber where you’re unchallenged?

        2. Nigel

          Some people like to close down debate by declaring a massive popular demonstrstion invalid because of minor stuff around internal politics and disagreements. Thay like to shout them down screaming LOL hypocrites LOL and lying and distorting blowing small things put of proportion and making bad-faith spin on some things taken out of context. The Clampt Right.

        3. LW

          Vintage Clampers: “closing down debate because you don’t like someone else’s opinions and shouting racist, bigot, etc or something just as pig ignorant….”
          Here, closing down debate is a bad thing

          “put a sock in it Nigel.”
          Here, Clampers tells Nigel to shut up because he doesn’t like his opinions

    3. Neil is a gum

      Oh right. So people are hurting and feeling threatened by a misognynist president and your instinct tells you it serves them right to suffer? I see how it works.

      1. Clampers Outside!

        LOL… you are a muppet. Where did I say that… nowhere… thanks.

        Accuse
        Accuse
        Accuse
        Accuse
        Delegitimise

        You are a virtue signalling your own stupidity with that tactic.

          1. Nigel

            You’re right ClampJohn. None of your comments make any accusations about the march and it’s organisers and participants, none of those accusations were designed to delgitimise the march. These are Clampternative Facts. LOLsigh, ClampJohn. LOLsigh indeed.

          2. Nigel

            Ooh, you can change your username after posting? Did not know that. *whisper* SORRY IF I BLEW YOUR COVER CLAMPS!

          3. Clampers Outside!

            A mistake Nigel. I asked for it to be corrected… didn’t take you for a doxxing type. Just leave that bit… and let’s get on with it.

            No, NIgel, those comments were not accusations, but points of fact about the organiser.

          4. Nigel

            Sorry, Clamps, you posted that comment under that handle, I responded accordingly before you made the change. Ask the owners to alter my comments if you wish, I give permission. But sure, now you accuse me of doxxing. Those in fact were accusations, more obviously and clearly accusations than the vague hand-wavey get-out-of-jail ‘LOL you’re accusing me’ stuff you come out with to avoid debate. And those accusatory ‘points of fact’ were designed to deligitimise the entire March. We’re not children, you know.

          5. Nigel

            Yeah, I see an effort to delegitimise a massive popular protest using lies, distortions, and bad-faith context-free interpretations, all magnified disproportionately through the repetition of misogynisticm islamophobic, anti-liberal, anti-feminist, pro-Trump talking points. I no longer consider you innocent of the nature and origins of the ‘facts’ you employ, if you ever truly were. You have no excuse.

            I think you should apologise for the doxxing crack, by the way. In this day and age it’s a serious charge to throw out

          6. Clampers Outside!

            Excuse the doxxing coment, there was a timeline delay as you pointed out, so accept your given reason.

            As for the rest… all accusations Nigel.
            Your usual set of…. you are… you are… you are…

            Each accusation would require a dissertation to refute. Go away Nigel. Make points not accusations.

            PLEASE its getting way too tiresome…

            yawn….

          7. Nigel

            I apreciate the apology. I had to apologise mysel on a different thread for being an idiot, so… g’night.

        1. Neil is a gum

          I am a virtue – why, thanks *blushes

          Whatever I said it looks like it found the mark anyway

    4. Brendan_

      @ztsamudzi: so much of this women’s march has been apolitical garbage wrapped up in pink and marketed as feminism and I’m fed up.

  20. Mourning Ireland

    These white privileged snowflakes haven’t got a clue about resistance. There’s a big difference between an IUD and an IED.

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