Passing Out Parade, Garda College, Templemore, County Tipperary in 2015
The papers are now all abuzz
With scandals concerning the fuzz
To build up a stash
Of wrongly lodged cash
Is just what an officer does.
John Moynes
Rollingnews
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Reminds me of the only person I’ve ever met who wanted to be a Garda. He said it was cos he could ride around on his motorbike all day and do whatever he wanted. Which seems to sum up the mentality of the people they attract.
Or the time I could see junkies injecting into their a*sses across the road from my house and called the Gardai, who strolled up, told the lads to finish what they were doing and sent them on their way.
Or the many, many, MANY times my shop in Temple Bar had junkie shoplifters and the Gardai never even showed up to take a report.
Useless. Worthless. A laughing stock.
It attracts people who’ve given up working out what they want to do with their lives and decide to settle for the bare minimum; security, which probably renders them a little bitter about life in general and/or utter See You Next Tuesdays who want to boss people around because they’re not capable of winning people’s respect naturally.
Also, throwing junkies in cells doesn’t solve any problems for more than a few hours.
I’m sure it also attracts people who are decent and believe in law and order.
Probably a couple of them, yeah.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say no, more than a couple.
Three.
Seeing as everyone is willy nilly speculating on Gardaí motivation to join the force….
I’ll go out on a limb and say most of the people who go for the Gardaí do so with good motivation and intention.
Although there is corruption in the force, directed from the top down (I believe), I still have a lot of respect for any individual Garda. I’ve met more decent skins than w*nkers in fairness.
My tuppence.
i would like to remind everyone that when the verdict came in on stabby mcweirdo dwyer we all rightly praised the gardai for a bang-on job in securing a prosecution. and there is no doubt tireless work being done by most rank and file gardai nationally on cases that put real w@nkers in jail
imo, the gardai are just like a microcosm of society generally. how many knobends do you know in your life? 10% maybe? it’s got to be the same in any organisation that size. whatever about individuals, there is a real problem with accountability generally with most large organisations which allows the knobends to flourish in both private and public sectors.
+1
Important to keep at least some perspective.
+ another 1
This is true.
Good n’ bad, attentive n’ lazy, sound n’ sly in all sectors of society.
‘n’
You’re missing two letters.
N’ implies no.
I realise this is unimportant but, like most Irish people, I don’t know when to stop talking.
Where do people like Maurice McCabe fit into these blithe negations? What I have seen from working in Dublin city centre is that offenders can be arrested, charged and released to go straight back to what they are doing while it takes months for the court case. “Moving people along” is about all they can do unless they witness something themselves.
I think it must be dispiriting for 11,000 guards to try to police 4.5 million people only to see cases dropped and sentences suspended while serious threats to and assaults on themselves (unarmed in violent confrontations) are dismissed.
Meanwhile we are told that all kinds of corruption and manipulation of the guards and the system are par-for-the-course.
I couldn’t do it, but it’s a job that needs to be done.
it is a job that needs to be done, and done correctly. They should be held to the same employment standards as the rest of us. Falsifying information? Workplace bullying? Gross misconduct, out on yer a*se. Not an “internal investigation” and a pat on the back.
I personally know a business owner in your general area. He has gone almost insane from his efforts to have the Gardai remove insulting addicts and pissing drunks from the area immediately outside his premises. No help, only indifference.
While I completely sympathise with that business owner I can’t imagine there is much in a Garda’s day more demoralising than shooing junkies knowing they’ll be back in seconds and that if they do manage to charge them with something and somehow get them to court the judge will send them on their way. And, of course, if a garda lays a hand on them it’ll be all over Facebook and YouTube as unprovoked Garda thuggery.
i’d say most gardai are advised to take a pragmatic approach to drug use and see it as a medical rather than a criminal act. charging a drug user with a public order offence will usually end up in a fine, which won’t get paid. if they bring charges then those gardai get criticised for clogging up the courts with nonsense charges, it makes the user’s life harder to turn around by picking up stupid convictions and not long ago on here, we saw footage of a garda trying to remove a homeless guy from a doorway to massive ignominy. gardai are screwed if they do, screwed if they don’t it seems.
Homeless people and heroin addicts are, usually, a result of a neoliberal society that thinks of the working class as less. The Gards can’t fix those problems. It shouldn’t be their responsibility to.
Correct. There should be appropriate and effective treatment centres and injection sites, as have been campaigned for and are necessary. That is not the fault of the Gardai. However, what do you suppose the business owner I mentioned (who is working class, same as I am) is to do about losing trade because of addicts injecting right outside his shop?
Rats Ouh’