75,005 In Two Days

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A petition set up on Tuesday night by Denise Kieran on Uplift against the Sisters of Charity gaining ‘sole ownership’ of the new National Maternity Hospital has just passed the 75,000-signature target.

Make it 100,000.

Sign here.

Block Sisters of Charity Ad Sole Owners Of National Maternity Hospital (Uplift)

Yesterday Nun As Blind

Meanwhile, At The Department Of Health

68.613 And Counting

42 thoughts on “75,005 In Two Days

  1. newsjustin

    The Government should just try to purchase the site….along with any supporting infrastructure.

    Or maybe have one of the two hospitals facilitating the new NMH purchase the site.

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        I cannot understand why they won’t do this.
        Well, I can. They’re all crooked.

        1. newsjustin

          Maybe the Minister for Health feels he could put a few (maybe 10s?) of million to better use than buying a site currently being given to him for free.

          1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Sure. But you know what? Sometimes it’s just better to do the right thing. And the right thing here is not to allow that Order have anything to do with this and to chase them for the reparations they owe.

          2. newsjustin

            Malta – it’s been given to a new entity that Govt are funding. If a site has to be bought, it will be the Govt paying for it I imagine.

          3. MoyestWithExcitement

            Why can’t the minister make the purchase order and write off the cost against the millions the nuns owe us?

          4. newsjustin

            It’s interesting that the Sister’s don’t appear to have asked for any money for the site. Or suggesting something similar – write off against any money owing.

            Supposedly €3m is still owed by the Sisters. I’m no expert, but I expect the site would cost a lot more than that to buy.

            The Religious Sisters of Charity must have no or pee-poor PR advisors if they’ve made giving the State use of a free site for the NMH a bad news story.

      2. newsjustin

        In theory, yes. If it could be made stick.

        I wonder has the State actually said to St Vincent’s: “Listen, we like your site. Let’s say X million and strike a working agreement between the two hospitals.”

  2. Medium Sized C

    I signed.

    I worry it means nothing though, because it is online and there are SO MANY examples of online polls being hacked and the people on power are quite adept at writing this kind of stuff off.

    Phone a constituency office too. FG, FF or an indy minister.
    “If this goes ahead I will vote for any Sinn Fein candidate above you.”

    1. Zoella

      I emailed Simon Harris as well but I’m not exactly expecting a reply. Well done to the woman who organised this petition.

      1. Medium Sized C

        Phone calls beat emails.
        Emails are only marginally less ignorable than online petitions I suspect.

        Also, are you in his constituency?
        If not do you have a FG or FF TD in your constituency?
        You won’t, most likely, speak to them, but you will be able to threaten to vote for SF ahead of them.

        If so replace “Sinn Fein” with “Charlie Keddy”.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          “Phone calls beat emails.”

          +1 Lots of GOP reps cited exactly this when explaining why they voted down Trumpcare. 1 talked about how his office fielded about 400 phone calls from people who supported Obamacare and very few against it. Plus emails are gone with just one click. Plus people have no choice but to biologically react to a human voice. Very easy not care about words on a screen.

    2. Denise Kiernan

      Hey Medium Sized C, I started the petition. I assure that we are working on the next steps to ensure that this isn’t just an online petition with no concrete action. Thank you for showing your support. Every single person has the ability to promote positive social change. As you mentioned, one action that has proven to work is calling in to your local TD, so don’t be afraid to keep encouraging others to give them a call, post on their Facebook page, Tweet at them and at Simon Harris. Let’s keep the pressure on!

  3. Daisy Chainsaw

    I bet you the nuns never expected this kind of groundswell against them! I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the convent.

    1. james oneill

      I doubt the nuns care what your “Groundswell” does, laughable, liberal lefts getting carried away again.

    2. newsjustin

      Frankly, from a financial point of view, this could work out very well for the Sisters (and their associated health care companies). What was an offer of a free site to the state may be rebuffed and it may be bought off them instead.

      “Oh no Mr Minister for Health, please don’t give us those 10s of millions of Euros…”
      – the Nuns probably

      1. LW

        Was it a free site, no obligation, or was it a free site on condition of getting the constructed hospital?

          1. Sheik Yahbouti

            Well then, newsjustin, why do you keep scuttering about it if you have no information on it? On the basis of no evidence whatever, you say this is a good deal, and rubbish those who might suspect that it is not a good deal.

  4. rob

    I just signed this petition, but I intend to call my local TDs to voice opposition. If we all do both of these things, it will be more effective.

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        I’m sure that’ll make allbthe difference to him because you’re not a typically delusional and self important right winger.

        1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

          Says the self-important left winger. I’ll remove delusional because I mostly agree with you.

  5. Mr. Camomile Tea

    On the SixOne news yesterday Minister Harris seemed to be defending how profitable the arrangement would be of the Sisters of Charity, i.e. that they wouldn’t make “one red cent” from the deal. He’s missing the point if he thinks that’s what the public is concerned about.

    Another point he repeatedly made is that the new National Maternity Hospital (NMH) will rely on Vincent’s hospital for acute care such as ICU and surgeries, and that this reliance somehow factored into the decision to grant ownership of the NMH to the Vincent’s Group. However, Holles Street (where the NMH is now) already relies on Vincent’s to provide acute care for its patients, so there’s no clear reason why a new arrangement would need to be made to continue this co-dependence on the new site. Not that that is the least sensical aspect of this whole mess…

  6. Jake38

    Just like Vincents Public, the Maternity hospital will be used to feed patients with health insurance into Vincents Private, thus siphoning revenue to where the Vincents group really want it to go and away from the public hospital. Follow the money.

  7. Rugbyfan

    if the site was close to owned by a non catholic religion and the same thing happened in relation to ownership of the asset there would be outrage from a lot more quarters.
    Stop this madness now FG.

  8. nellyb

    I’ve come to think we should let reactionaries run unabated, they are efficient demolition crew. When they’ve destroyed themselves, we’ll bulid something useful and intelligent. Australians are still hiring, have some sunshine while waiting for them to finish, lol ;-)

  9. Sheik Yahbouti

    In all the to and fro over the past couple of days there is only one real question: (OK divide it into two parts) which I will address by e-mail, letter and telephone call to the Minister for Health, and I urge everyone else to do the same. (1) “Why was a decision taken to hand over ‘sole ownership’ of a publicly funded and built Hospital to a Religious Order? (2) Who made that decision? When we have received those answers I am confident that a whole other rotten, stinking and outrageous can of worms will have been opened. Anyone care to give me odds on the questions actually being answered?

    1. martco

      1000-1

      for you know as well as I that this has nothing to do with money, no amount of it will matter, it’s about power.
      The ability to control, influence, to ensure the “ethos” must be maintained at a root level in society. per schools and the practical requirement to indoctrinate….it’s a major structural pillar their game and this will carry on whether we protest or not but i feel it’s worth the protest. I want to see the whites of their eyes and were getting closer to seeing it now I think.

      I firmly believe this talk of 3 million here and a million there is a red herring

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