Cannabis Oil Or Snake Oil?

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In the first part of an investigation into people “selling unlicensed substances that they claim will treat or cure serious conditions”…

William Campbell (above), of the Here’s How current affairs podcast, writes:

This edition of the Here’s How podcast is the first in a series investigating quack cures, and profiteering from sick people. In this edition I expose a Dublin Shop falsely claiming that their €5,500 per litre oil can successfully treat autism…

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51 thoughts on “Cannabis Oil Or Snake Oil?

  1. Casey

    These quacks have been around a long time in Ireland in one guise or another some.of them church sanctioned for such poopy poo as the laying on of the hands, anointing or praying over a person suffering from an affliction. Faith healers my botty.

    Makes sense that they would prepare the way for a whole new generation of slimeballs like these lot.

    It takes a partiocular type of evil to profiteer from people’s pain and suffering in this way. I wouldn’t give them the steam off my wee wee if they were on blazing fire.

      1. Mary Jane

        Do not equate CBD oil with quack medicine. Obviously you know nothing about the Endocannabinoid system.

  2. The Real Chris

    Wow. Having an easy go at the Hemp Company Dublin a nice little shop that sells Hemp based products, which included CBD oil. CBD oil has been studied in depth in medical trials and is prescribed by doctors in other countries. It has undergone clinical trials and is not Snake Oil. The companies the Hemp Company source their CBD oil from are highly regarded. Maybe they should take more care, but I have never heard anyone in the Hemp Company attempt to force CBD oil on anyone as purely alternative healing. Most people who seek it have been advised to do so elsewhere and use not as a cure it to alleviate terrible symptoms. Perhaps the Hemp Company did handle some customers badly but if we weren’t so far behind on legislation and advice for medical cannabinoids the public would be better advised. Btw CBD is a cannaboid, free of THC and completely legal and does not get you high, educate yourself. Also nice intro that tries to equate using CBD oils to plying people with industrial bleach. Well William no guessing who your target audience is, the hand wringers will enjoy it.

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      I don’t care how small you are, if you’re going to say you have bottled autism cure at €5.5k a litre, you need 100% proof or scorn and ridicule.

      1. The Real Chris

        Who said ‘I have a bottle of autism cure in here for 5k litre’ attribute a name to that quote from the Hemp Company and I’ll go and picket out side.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          Cast your eyes to the top of the page. “I expose a Dublin Shop falsely claiming that their €5,500 per litre oil can successfully treat autism…”

          1. The Real Chris

            That is not attributing the quote, it is loosely linking your statement with what he said in an interpretive manner.

    2. William Campbell

      Well the Hemp Company claimed that there exist clinical trials to prove that CBD successfully treats autism. I spoke on the podcast to a professor who has specialised in autism for the last 40 years, who says that’s nonsense.

      Who would you believe? And why is this being sold for the equivalent of €5,500 per litre?

      1. The Real Chris

        Where did they make this autism claim, it’s agreeably stupid if so. The price deficit on the other hand is easily explained. To get a single gram of CBD oil you need well over ten grams of CBD strain plant matter(i.e. cannabis), this means the end product is highly concentrated and expensive, only a tiny amount is used. Raw CBD oil is 50/80 dollars a gram in Canada where it is actually prescribed by doctors, it is about 85US dollars a gram in the US where it is sold legally and in a controlled manner in medical and legal states. If the Hemp Company made mistakes criticism is understandable but it still feels like a bit of a hatchet job. The Hemp Company should operate under guidelines, but they don’t exist in Ireland. This is a further disappointment in that failing to understand, respond and just plain ignoring the developments in medical science due to to the political ‘ickiness’ of cannabis, CBD oil has been left in the realm of being compared to industrial bleach or some kind of legal high, left to be misunderstood and used poorly.

    3. Casey

      Let me get this straight…

      Are you trying to justify the existence of a shop that sells a (non-exiatant) cure for autism?

      How do you live with yourself?

        1. Casey

          So you are supportive of someone (a shop) selling a cure for autism when there is no medically verified cure for any kind of autism anywhere on the spectrum?

          You are comfortable with this knowing that the only people that will buy into this dishonest lie are those desperate enough to believe it?

          You are happy with the morality of selling something as a cure when it is not, so essentially committing fraud?

          1. Casey

            Grand so we have established you are not comfortable with cannibis oil salesmen claiming their goods can cure autism.

            This shop should be done under the trades description act for making such claims and taking advantage of desperate parents.

            It is not the substance I object to water / cannabis oil / peanut butter – if it brings you relief from the symptoms of a condition, grand and I am delighed for you. If the vendor who sells it to you makes the broad claim that it will cure your condition. Big FUCKING problem.

        1. Sheik Yahbouti

          That was for casey’s post. The spread of mumbo jumbo and arrant nonsense is as prevalent today as it was in medieval times – sadly.

    4. Casey

      @Moyest –
      Hang sarnies in tin foil, thermos of tea, milk kept cool with the towel (packed with ice cubes if you were organised/posh) your Da with a hankey tied in the corners on his head. Your mother wearing shorts and threatenung to leave you at the side of the road if you didnt stop beating the head off your brother. The whole lot of you packed in the Fiat for a day at Bettystown / Brittas.

  3. mildred st. meadowlark

    Unfortunately I haven’t had the time so far to listen to the podcast, so I’m wondering if someone could explain, it the claim that the oil cures autism that is causing issue, or is it the oil itself?

    Because, while I’m sceptical that any kind of oil could successfully treat autism, I thought that it was widely accepted that hemp oil/cannabis oil is a highly useful substance.

    1. MoyestWithExcitement

      There is a difference between selling an oil that might help someone’s pain and telling distressed parents that this little shop on Capel St has the cure for their living nightmare. Not the pharmaceutical companies and/or reputable pharmacists but this little corner shop.

      1. It Won't Stand Up In Court

        A child with autism isn’t a “living nightmare”. Unless you’re projecting again.

        1. MoyestWithExcitement

          Autism is a spectrum, little friend. For lots, it’s fine and manageable. For lots others, it *is* a living nightmare. An adult toddler who can and occasionally does beat the crap out of his parents but needs them to look after him 24/7 kind of nightmare. I know you’re trolling but this can be a teachable moment for you.

      1. mildred st. meadowlark

        Why is that now? Because I’m in work and am not in a position to listen to a 30 min podcast?

        1. It Won't Stand Up In Court

          Don’t you think anyone else is at work as well?
          Hold on, maybe we can get a Brazilian student to listen to it for you.
          Or Moyest, he doesn’t appear to be at anything gainful

          the stench of self-entitlement is strong in this one

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            Yes that’s it.

            Fetch me an Brazilian servant. And yes, yes I am entitled. The most entitled.

            Care to join me in the land of self-entitlement? Its lovely and warm.

          2. It Won't Stand Up In Court

            Is there foot massages? I noticed you were offering to bring tea as well.

          3. mildred st. meadowlark

            I’ll get that Brazilian student to do the foot massage, but I’m all over the tea. I’m good for biscuits too.

    2. William Campbell

      No problem with them selling the oil, although you would wonder why they are selling it at such an astronomical price when it’s available for a fraction of that price in Holland & Barrett.

      The issue is making claims that (direct quote here) “there are clnical trials to prove that works” to treat autism.

      1. It Won't Stand Up In Court

        Is that demonstrably a “false” claim William? There may well be “clinical trials”. They just might not be repeatable or subject to independent peer review, or claiming any particular level of significance. Please can you clarify your remarks.

        And don’t be encouraging this do-nothing dilettante, make her watch it herself next time. Think of the clicks. Otherwise you don’t get paid.

          1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

            Do-nothing dilettante! That’s a fab moniker. Run with it.
            That’s me in a nutshell, to be honest. Scrap that, I’LL run with it.

      2. William Campbell

        Well on one side I have a literature review of 10,000 studies from the Nationa Academy of Sciences, and the word of a professor with 40 years clinical experience in autism saying there is no such clinical trials, and on the other side I have an unsupported claim from a former barman who got a job managing daddy’s shop. You can choose who to believe yourself.

        And by the way, if it’s not “repeatable or subject to independent peer review, or claiming any particular level of significance” then it’s not a clinical trial.

        1. It Won't Stand Up In Court

          There are none then that the person you interviewed is aware of?

          X>= 0 is not equivalent to X=0.

          Thanks for clarifying.

    3. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

      My mother in law uses it as she digs her nails into her hands: it’s an end-stage Alzheimer’s thing. It’s brilliant; the (massive) improvement happened within a few days.

      It must be horrendous being a parent of an autistic kid when so much FAKE NEWS is out there. It seems to be a magnet for the tinfoil hat crowd, is autism.

  4. Louis Lefronde

    So quick question William, how many states in the US have legalised cannabis and cannabis extract products for medical use. I know in Canada, CBD oil is widely used, and whereas it doesn’t cure autism, it certainly helps alleviate the symptoms. I wouldn’t take Irish doctors views as gospel, they’re quite a conservative bunch. Rather, I would start looking at countries with world class healthcare systems such as Germany, Switzerland, Israel and Canada where the Doctors and research scientist are light years ahead of their Irish counterparts on the use of Cannabis.

    Charlottes Web, the Hemp extract oil is expensive, there’s no doubt about that, but compare like with like. For example GW Pharmas Sativex costs £124 for a small 10ml tincture which works out at £12500. I understand GW Pharma we’re looking for €350 for selling the same in Ireland. Whereas the exact same Cannabis based product if organically grown and distilled into oil would cost just €7 for 10ml.

    So who are the real snake oil salesmen?

      1. Pat Harding

        You’ve obviously never heard a Pharma rep give a spiel to a doctor over a few bottles of claret….

        A rose by any other name would smell as sweet?

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