‘I’m Sorry This Has Happened’

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Kevin Myers (right_ and Sean O’Rourke on Today with Sean O’Rourke on RTÉ Radio One this morning

This morning.

On RTE One’s Today with Sean O’Rourke.

Former Sunday Times columnist Kevin Myers spoke to Mr O’Rourke in the wake of his sacking from the newspaper, following his column last Sunday.

From the interview…

Kevin Myers: “…I think I could have been treated with more dignity [by the Sunday Times] but I do understand. I too quickly said and an affirmative to a question I wasn’t expecting, I said ‘yes’. And I don’t think that’s quite right because anyone should have a second chance for making an error of judgment.

“You see I’ve come on air and I’m not fully prepared for what you’re going to throw at me. I haven’t slept in two nights and I’m…”

Sean O’Rourke: “It’s a very tough thing and, on a human level, I think people will empathise or sympathise with somebody losing, you’ve lost your livelihood?

Myers:Yes, I have. But I don’t want anyone else to lose their livelihood. Enough damage has been done. So, you know, it’s happened. I enjoyed working for The Sunday Times and I’m sorry this has happened. I did, I mean…”

O’Rourke: “But I mean even if, if there had been, and again, that’s noble of you to say it but if there are five or six people whose job it is to vet what people write for the paper, prior to it going to print, surely they have to be on the line aswell.”

Talk over each other

Myers:Enough damage, enough misery has been caused. You see, you can have a perch, you can, and a lot of people would love a perch. A nice big witch hunt, lots of victims, lots of lives ruined, lots of mortgages…”

O’Rourke: “It’s called taking responsibility.”

Myers: “I’m taking responsibility for what I wrote. I can’t do anything for anybody else.”

O’Rourke: “OK, and the other thing that’s been much noted and much commented upon is that if there hadn’t been those references to two women presenters in the BBC, Claudia Winkleman and Vanessa Feltz, you would still be a columnist. And questions are being asked…”

Myers: “And, you know, that was just one single a line or two, that’s all.”

O’Rourke: “Yeah, but the question is being asked what about the way you would appear to routinely write material which is misogynistic…”

Myers: “It’s not misogynistic, no it’s not misogynistic. I am a critic of political feminism. I am not a misogynist. That’s a term that you might have been, I don’t think you would have used that term about me in different circumstances, Sean. It hasn’t routinely been used about me but it’s a simple way of labelling somebody and that means you don’t have to listen to what they’re saying.”

O’Rourke: “But in terms of why people get ahead professionally and why men more so than women do so, you suggest that a personnel department or a human resources department, as it’s now called, will tell you that ‘men usually work harder, get sick less frequently and seldom get pregnant. But most of all men tend to be more ambitious, they have that grey-backed testosterone-powered hierarchy-climbing id that feminised and egalitarian-obsessed legislatures are increasingly trying to legislate against’.”

Myers: “Yes, well that’s an observation I would have made on many occasions and I don’t think it would have been the object of such obloquy in different circumstances but I do believe that men and women behave very differently and men are driven by ambition and by urges that women don’t have, generally speaking.”

O’Rourke: “When you wrote as well, in the same column on Sunday, ‘a fairly average female columnist in 800 indignant words of smouldering mediocrity will, without leaving her keyboard, earn more than a cleaning lady or a checkout girl, what they would earn, in an entire week plus Sunday overtime’. Now why refer to a fairly average female columnist there?”

Myers: “Actually, because we’re talking about the context of equality. I don’t believe in equality, Sean. I’m not asking you questions. You’re asking me questions. I’m on this programme because Mary, your producer texted me this morning and she’s doing her professional job outside. None of us is equal to one another. I’m arguing in, repeatedly, over the decades…”

O’Rourke: “Why put in the word, if you just wrote ‘a fairly average columnist in 800 indignant words’, I mean why does it have to be a ‘female columnist’?”

Myers: “Because I’m talking about the issue of female equality when women, when feminists talk about, within the BBC, talking about how they should be equal with the men, well actually nobody’s equal so the women who’s making the tea or cleaning the floors or whatever, is not equal to the star presenter. And it just, that was the issue, the context of that…”

O’Rourke: “That applies equally to male as well as female…”

Myers: “It does absolutely. But you see you can actually Sean, without any problem, got through line by line and paragraph by paragraph in that thing and find..”

O’Rourke: “OK, well I want to do one more, actually, if I may, and I don’t want to labour the point. But you say: ‘equality is a unicorn, don’t wait for it or look for favours because of your chromosome count. Get what you can with whatever talents you have and ask yourself how many women are billionaires, chess players, grandmasters, mathematicians, there’s a connection: mastery of money usually requires singular drive, ruthless logic and instant arctic cold arithmetic’. Now, it’s very easy to conclude, reading that paragraph or most of a paragraph that you actually believe that women are inferior to men.”

Myers: “Well you  might have come to that conclusion. If I thought that, I would be an idiot. And I’m sorry that I’ve given that impression but I’ve already told you that I have many weaknesses and one of my weaknesses is a weakness for facile terminology like that. If it irritates people then you’re losing them, you lose them as readers or listeners or whatever. Now, the way you’ve read that out to me, and to your audience, makes me sound like a very unpleasant person. But I’m not a very unpleasant person. You’ve just taken any single paragraph…”

O’Rourke: “By the way, it is the duty of a columnist, I would argue and I’m sure you would as well, occasionally, to be unpleasant.”

Myers: “It is but the point is a single paragraph taken like that, out of context, makes me sound like a villain. But there are very few women mathematicians, there are very few women grand chess masters, there’s on in the top 100, that’s a fact.”

O’Rourke:Maybe they have better things to be doing.”

Myers: “Well that’s the point. That is the point. Now if I had said that, it would be called misogyny.”

O’Rourke: “Now there’s a lot of traffic on our text line [reads out text] “Does Mr Myers apologise for calling the children of single mothers ‘bastards?’.”

Myers: “Well I don;t know why she’s asking that..Is that a woman asking that? I wrote an entire column on that. The column appeared on a Tuesday by Thursday I had written a full retraction and a full and abject apology in which the terms abject and contrite were the two words I used at the end. I knew I had done a bad thing.”

O’Rourke: “Ruth Walsh , I’m not sure if it’s our former journalistic colleague Ruth Walsh is tweeting to observe: ‘Kevin Myers in person is a very likeable but he has made too many throw away remarks over the years. He is not a rookie journalist’.”

Myers: “Well, I’m not going to argue with that.”

O’Rourke: “I’m wondering how do you go about rebuilding or do you at this stage…”

Myers: “Very hard to say how I can say I can recover from this. Personally I’m in a very bad way which is fine, people expect you to suffer if they give you a good kicking and that’s happening. I’m not sure if there’s any redemption for me now which will give a lot of people satisfaction.”

O’Rourke: “And if they read the Independent today, Gerard O’Regan their former editor is writing about how unnecessarily difficult it was for him as an editor to deal with you. I suppose brilliant people are often difficult people to deal with. It could be said you long ago burnt your bridges in the Irish Times, then the Independent and now the Sunday Times…”

Myers: “I didn’t burn my bridges in the irish Times. I left the irish Times. The irish Times didn’t ask me to leave and they actually tried very hard for me to stay. The Irish Independent declined to renew my contract when it was up but there was no strained feelings there. It didn’t happen and the Sunday Times took me on. We now know the Sunday Times relationship is over.”

O’Rourke: “You don’t think there’s any way to argue your way back in there by maybe writing a fresh column. Would you like to be given space to write 750 or a thousand words just to state your position not necessarily pleading for your job back.”

Myers: well there’s no question the Sunday Times are taking me on as far as I can see. Martin Ivens, the editor I amtold – I haven’t been reading stuff online as I haven’t got the constitution to take all that hatred that exists online – that I will never be employed by the Sunday Times in any guise in the future so I have to accept him on his word.

O’Rourke: “In your defence there is the statement issued by Maurice Cohen, chair of the Jewish Representative Council of Ireland in which he says branding Kevin Myers as either an anti-semite or a Holocaust denier is an absolute distortion of the facts but he does go on to take issue with…”

Myers: “All the Jews have. I accept that. I was wrong. It was stupid of me this encapsulation of this quite big issue in a single sentence or half a sentence. It’s done me terminal damage but that’s that. It’s what happens in life these days.

O’Rourke: “Would there have been a sense though, subconsciously or otherwise, that I can toss out these lines and observations and sure look there’s half a dozen people to rein me in if I go overboard and I can push the boundaries, push the boundaries..

Myers: “I am the Master of my soul and the author of my own misfortune. I cannot blame anyone else”

O’Rourke: “What would you say to Vanessa Feltz and Claudia Winkleman this morning?”

Myers: “I am very, very sorry. I really mean this because I’m not rescuing anything. It’s over for me professionally as far as I can see. I am very, very sorry that I should have so offended them and I do utter an apology not for any reason other than out of genuine contrition for the hurt I caused them but I did so out of respect for the religion they come from and for the religion I still hold in regard, particularly the irish members of that religion who have been so forthright in their defence of me generally. Not just Maurice [Cohen]. Others who have been contacting me privately and I am so grateful for their support.”

O’Rourke: “Kevin Myers, thank you for coming in today.”

Myers: “Thank you, Sean.”

Listen back in in full here

Sunday: Kevin’s Gate

108 thoughts on “‘I’m Sorry This Has Happened’

  1. Eamonn Clancy

    Never liked his work but the colum wasn’t that bad. The anti Semite and misogyny cards have been played to death. We’re all guilty of it from time or time. Hope his career isn’t over.

    1. ahjayzis

      “The anti Semite and misogyny cards have been played to death”

      The deaths of women and Jews, yaw.

      Tosser..

    2. Tony

      ‘WE’re all guilty of it from time to time’

      What? Hating women and hating Jews?

      Not me Éamonn. Speak for yourself there son.

  2. Kolmo

    The Lance-Corporal Stewie Griffin Myers is a bit long in the tooth and experienced to be making those verbose but also strangely flat footed comments like those in his article, it seems that he wanted to cause a fuss, but he just went too far this time, he is either a pompous regency fool or everyone just didn’t understand the thoughts he was trying to convey – me thinks the former..

  3. Barry the Hatchet

    Oh god what a turgid interview by a couple of eejits who have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about. And what possessed RTE to give Kevin Myers air time? What kind of organisation looks at a man, who has just been fired because he uses his public platform to spout hateful, racist bile, and thinks.. “gosh we should really give him a platform!”??

    1. Hank

      The same kind of organisation that pays compensation to homophobes after broadcasting comments which labelled them as homophobes.

      1. Barry the Hatchet

        “It’s very tough”; “people will sympathise with you”; “you’ve lost your livelihood”; “that’s noble of you”.

        Right of reply my botty.

      2. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

        Reply to what? Myers didn’t write the column for RTÉ

    2. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

      Can’t agree more

      Well paid eejits as well

      I couldn’t even bring myself to grimace at more than two or three paragraphs

  4. Murtles

    Unfortunately it’s hard to get a balanced view of the world when you live up your own bottom like Kevin. It was bound to happen but then again where was the online editor(s) that allowed publication of article. I don’t think Kev can post directly on the website.

  5. Andrew

    If his point regarding equality, is that men are good at some things and women good at others; then there is an argument for that.
    However, his writing is poor and I, as a reader of the Sunday times rarely bothered to read his columns as I found them to be poorly written and just childish.
    I would not like to see this as an opportunity by some to silence people’s views they don’t agree with.
    Myers is finding out who his friends are, and I suspect there aren’t many.
    I expect Frank Fitzgibbon to go as well.

    1. TheRealJane

      *If his point regarding equality, is that men are good at some things and women good at others; then there is an argument for that.*

      A rubbish, thoroughly disproven one, but an argument does exist alright. There is also an argument to support racism based on different brains, but that’s defunct as well.

  6. Spaghetti Hoop

    No Sean, you are wrong; I don’t empathise or sympathise. Myers had this coming to him.

      1. bisted

        …another work of fiction to go with the one he wrote about his fearless reporting of the ‘Troubles’…all the journalists from that time know he never left the Europa and was cowering in room most of the time…

        1. shitferbrains

          Not according to Olivia O’Leary. Whose word I’d take over yours. Offence intended.

          “In the early 1970s, you couldn’t avoid it, and Myers, as he says himself, became hooked. He searched it out. He arrived just after a bomb blast at Jack Lavery’s pub in Lisburn Road. The owner thought he’d get away with carrying the bomb out of his pub. He didn’t.
          ‘We stared around. There were tiny fragments of pink on the ground, mere smears, but hundreds of them, a confetti of human flesh’.”
          She continued: “Belfast was a hard station for Myers. He was young, barely out of university. Emotionally, professionally, politically he was thrown in, and threw himself in, the deep end. Not many of us would have emerged from that vortex undamaged, and Myers didn’t.”

          1. bisted

            …I know you are probably more familiar with Tel Aviv than Belfast but a bomb at Lavery’s would probably break windows in the residents bar at the Europa.

            Ah Olivia…I used to be a fan myself…last two times I heard her she was trying to give the kiss of life to labour and regretting that Paul Murphy wasn’t jailed for threatening her friend Joan…

  7. RuilleBuille

    I’ve met Myers twice – once in a work capacity and once in a social occasion. He is not a pleasant chap and is absolutely full of himself.

    1. Charger Salmons

      I’ve only met him the once when I stopped him in the street and shook his hand.He was charm personified.
      He’s a brave journalist who wrote unpopular things about the paramilitaries when most of the keyboard warriors on here were still sucking at their mam’s teat.

      1. ivan

        Yes, and in his earlier years Paul McCartney gave us Penny Lane and I’ve Just Seen a Face, but that’s no excuse for *his* latter output either…

        1. Papi

          If Charger says someone is “charm personified”, that should be taken as a pretty damning indictment.

          1. ivan

            No More Lonely Nights is fab alright (same opening chords as Here There and Everywhere, btw)

            And I love the Frog chorus, Hoop. Anybody with a functioning pair of ears does, actually.

            ALRIGHT YEZ B*STARDS i was just slagging off ‘Off The Ground’ from 1992…

        2. Spaghetti Hoop

          ‘Win Or Lose, Sink Or Swim
          One Thing Is Certain We’ll Never Give In
          Side By Side, Hand In Hand
          We All Stand Together’

          Are you dissing this?

          1. Gorev Mahagut

            Those frogs sound like communists. In the real world, it’s every man for himself. Just ask Kevin.

      2. Frilly Keane

        Is he a Journalist tho?

        I would’a called him a writer/ opinionater
        who got himself a handy soapbox for years to aggravate and rise a row

        like what stories did he break
        like Olga and John do

      3. pedeyw

        Your’re right. I should have been a far braver infant and reported on paramilitary organisations.

  8. Charger Salmons

    Myers is the only honest journalist left in Ireland and heads above that pontificating poltroon Fintan O’Toole whose surname is entirely appropriate.
    Instead our so-called Fourth Estate line up to regurgitate whatever the political establishment wants.
    Anyone who has read his work knows he’s not remotely anti-semitic,as the Jewish Council of Ireland have attested to this morning.
    Anyhow,the pitchfork-wavers have another victim and the Irish anti-British,anti-Brexit,anti-Conservative,pro-Israel,pro-IRA,pro-Corbyn media continues to exist in its own smug echo chamber.

    1. classter

      ‘anti-British,…,anti-Conservative,pro-Israel,pro-IRA,pro-Corbyn media’

      What media are you consuming. I am seeing none of this at all. Quite the contrary.

      it is anti-Brexit

      1. Charger Salmons

        The Irish Times is happy to print comment from its columnists about the British that if the same were published in English newspapers about the Irish would produce howls of outrage from the Irish Times.
        Their hypocrisy and double-standards are breathtaking and frequently racist.

  9. Listrade

    To summarise Myers’s slightly odd look at this.

    1. He shouldn’t be judged based on a couple of lines that were overtly based on negative stereotyping of Jewish people. It isn’t antisemitism if it’s just a couple of sentences.

    2. He isn’t a misogynist. He just doesn’t think men and women are equal and he thinks that women tend to be inferior. But he’s not a misogynist.

    3. Equality doesn’t exist, because there are cleaners and tea ladies (all women according to him) and so the BBC presenters should judge their “equality” against them rather than their male counterparts who do the same work. Does he argue that the male presenters should judge their salary against the “assumed male” plumber who unblocks the toilets? Nope.

    4. Women need to be more ruthless to get what they want like men. Except. Except when they do, they are shrill political feminists and he hates them.

    Other than that, he has a totally rational argument.

    1. FortyCoats

      To add to your list:
      5. It’s the fault of Irish people in the first place for not preventing his anti-Semitism being seen, because “We don’t have the antennae”.

  10. Charger Salmons

    A joke about Jews being good with money is no worse than a joke about the Irish being thick drunks or the English being arrogant haters of foreigners.
    But guess which is the only one you’ll ever read in the Irish media.

    1. Andrew

      I’ve read plenty of pieces that have taken offence at something written in the UK media about Irish people. Plenty.
      Are you going to mention Zionists next?

        1. Charger Salmons

          Whoever changed my plank to a ploopsy-doodle is a winner in my book.
          And probably a leftie to boot.

  11. TheRealJane

    I’m glad Kevin has been able to cut through all the nonsense and identify the real victim – a K. Myers Esq.

    This is a man who only said the things that anti semites and mysogynists say to make a point that is exactly the same as the points anti semites and mysogynists make. How could he possibly have guessed that people would think he was anti semetic and mysogynistic based on words that he wrote for publication?

    No justice for the wounded warriors.

  12. Frilly Keane

    ah more of it
    boys sticking together
    Media Lovies
    Sean “that noble of you” O’Rourke

    what a load of poxtrot
    people will loss their jobs
    ’cause they were crap at them

    So Myers doesn’t agree with equality
    here it is in less than 800 words

    if I’m doing the same gig as a lad
    with the same credentials, qualifications and expertise
    I want the same reward

    whether its cleaning or fronting the news of the day

    Myers; you’re acting like a female mongrel in heat; that rhymes with itch
    ’cause there’s girls that earn more than you
    and instead of accepting they might be better and generate a healthy contribution to their employers strategy/ bottom line than you can or ever did
    you blame their religion

    I hope this follows you till you die
    and know that I will be delighted your retirement and final days will be miserable, lonely and desperate

  13. Sheik Yahbouti

    Is there no-one else who thinks Brigadier Myers has had far too much publicity out of this? Until his current faux pas I had quite forgotten his existence.

      1. Brother Barnabas

        I don’t think anti-semitism is the best calling card when looking to build a career in the media in the US. you know what they say about the Jews and media control, right?

        1. Frilly Keane

          theres plenty “Reverends” that’ll lap him up

          sur Fake News is just right up Myers street

  14. Daisy Chainsaw

    Poor Kevin. The REAL victim in all this. What kind of country have we become where a man can’t spew his “deeply held beliefs” and invective in peace without backlash from the people he’s having a go at?

  15. Milo

    What a horrible display of hypocrisy by the usual broadsheet bigots. They would happily and regularly spit of Catholics and the like, but now become defenders Of someone else’s faith. Virtue signalling at its finest. The glee at a mans downfall only matched by the hypocrisy of his accusers. Under his eye etc.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      As someone who is forced to remain catholic due to the church changing the rules on leaving, I feel well placed to be a vocal critic of an organisation I’m a member of. Kevin Myers is neither Jewish nor female and clearly has no clue of either.

    2. Listrade

      Ah quit the bull. It would be hypocrisy if any regular criticism was of Catholics in general and using throwaway negative stereotypes about them (that have been used for centuries as part of hate campaigns). But it isn’t, Most criticism of Catholics has been about those who are in charge of the faith, the dogma from the faith and its influence on society and politicians, legacy of church influenced cover-ups, legacy of Vatican led cover-ups, etc. It isn’t comparable. It is criticism of a faith and those who use it to influence public policy. That is not the same as picking two examples of Jewish women and what he wrote.

      Even if there was similar criticism, you forget the golden rule: it’s fine when we do it about ourselves. It’s fine when Jewish comedians make jokes about stereotypes about themselves. It’s fine when Irish writers produce Father Ted. It’s not ok when someone else does it. Self-deprecation being acceptable isn’t that difficult a concept.

      No virtue signalling as there is nothing to compare.

      1. Happy Molloy

        He wasn’t being critical of the two Jewish ladies though, was he?

        Yes, he used Jewish stereotypes but in a complimentary way, like saying the Germans make good cars and are damn efficient.

        Jewish council of Ireland don’t seem to have a problem with him either https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0731/894136-sunday-times-kevin-myers/

        Doesn’t mean Myers isn’t a bit of a poo anyway, he’s almost certainly very sexist , but the gnashing of teeth and glee at the opportunity to assign a professional death sentence to someone is typical of the twitter generation and a much.

        in my humble opinion :-)

        1. Listrade

          Yeah, their statement says portraying him “as either an anti-Semite or a Holocaust denier is an absolute distortion of the facts”. The only problem being that article for the Indo he wrote where he said he was a Holocaust denier. They also go on to say that the statement was offensive, but it seems they know Myers and claim he isn’t antisemitic. The words were, but they say he isn’t.

          The issue is that his compliment was based on an age old negative stereotype of greed, not a positive one like efficiency. Therein is some hypocrisy, like how, say, Irish tend to be ok with others promoting positive stereotypes (great craic, yada yada), but not negative ones. Even though both a sweeping generalisations.

          Life be full of such complications, the joys of social interaction as a human being. Being sympathetic to people not wanting others to portray negative stereotypes is just part of being a decent human, not virtue signalling.

          We’ve seen enough of Myers deliberately directing bile at individuals that he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt here. He knew what he was doing. Sometimes it isn’t political correctness gone mad, sometimes you’re just being a d*ck and you get called out on it.

    3. scottser

      there is nothing more hypocritical than the apology which is not meant. ‘i’m sorry this happened. i’m sorry it turned out this way. i’m sorry you were offended’. these are not apologies, these are insults and denials from someone who does not have the grace or intelligence to realise he’s wrong because he’s been getting away with it for so long.
      good riddance.

  16. Happy Molloy

    I’ve never read a Myers column that I liked but to call him anti Semitic due to a lazy point in a crap article is typical modern day witch hunting

  17. milo

    And by the way, I am no fan of Myers or what he wrote against Travellers, Gaeilgoirs, Jews or any others. I just hate hypocrites more.

    1. Tony

      You hate hypocrites more than you hate antisemitism, racism and misogyny? That’s quite an admission Milo.

    2. Sheik Yahbouti

      Milo and Happy, I disagree with you – but honestly can’t be arsed to take offence, life really is too short . Good Luck to you.

      1. Brother Barnabas

        All this time we thought you were an A-rab, when in fact you’re an Irish-speaking, Jewish traveller. I’ve seen it all now.

      2. Happy Molloy

        sure no need to be offended just because someone disagrees with you anyway :-)

        life is indeed too short

    3. nellyb

      If Myers was in 8 out of 10 cats, his mascot would be boo boos on a chessboard, lol :-)
      Broadsheet, why don’t you give him a weekly column? He’ll hatch a lot of gems.

    4. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

      You don’t mind Myers but you just don’t like some of his words. Ok Kellyanne. Dope.

  18. Mourning Ireland

    The Irish Times shower out in force supporting the argument it was all bad writing, a sole misogyny trope – and giving covering fire for how offensive Myers was at the Irish Times – who DID NOT fire him but indulged him.

    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      There’s an internet search full of offensive claptrap that Myers wrote for the Indo aswell. He’ll be carried shoulder high to his new desk at the Daily Heil soon enough.

  19. Gay Tea Shop

    Fintan O’Toole:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-kevin-myers-broke-the-only-rule-that-matters-1.3172618

    “They broke the only rule that matters – don’t pick on people who can answer back. Jewish people have learned from the most abysmal experiences to be alert to the tropes of anti-Semitism and to call them out when they see them. It’s a matter of survival. ”

    Wrong- he conflates Jewish with Israeli. Of course that would not suit the Irish Times narrative.

    1. Barry the Hatchet

      I did find this quote from Fintan to be quite odd. As though women can’t answer back. Of course they do, it’s just that nobody ever fupping listens.

  20. Kenny U-Vox Plank

    Speaking of tropes and narratives.

    Compare and Contrast:

    Myers said he was a great admirer of Jewish people. – Irish Times

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/kevin-myers-i-m-not-sure-if-there-is-any-redemption-for-me-1.3173404

    Kevin Myers said he was sorry for causing offence but denied he was motivated by antisemitism and said he was a friend of the Jewish people and of Israel. – Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/aug/01/kevin-myers-sacked-sunday-times-columnist-apologises-for-antisemitic-article

  21. frank

    I dropped Myers a long time ago. He is a faux-person in the world of real reporting. His opinions are superbly written but, they are for the most; I believe, makey-uppy.
    The sacking is harsh, but when what is put as genuine effortlessly reveals the falseness inherent therein, it will inevitably reveal an insurmountable blockage.

  22. I'm "alright" Jack. Mad Jack is on annual leave.

    I thought Myers was finished long ago. Him and his ilk belong in the toilet and I expect him now to resurface in the Daily Mail or some similar bottomrag

  23. anne

    There’s nothing ruthless about logic or cold about arithmetic..

    What the giddy fupp was he even on about? Men aren’t cold & ruthless either.. business doesn’t need to just be about the bottom line either.

    Some people never get a bit of sense & just end up dotty aul codgers that no one listens to.

  24. Lilly

    Well for what it’s worth, where I work the men take way more time off sick than the wimmin. And the gender pay gap is alive and well.

  25. Jimmey Russell

    the Idea that an ethnic group would stick to their own and look after each other is dangerously offensive, he is literally a nazi and I hope he dies in the gutter sooner rather than later

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