Galway city, last evening.

Ciaran Tierney tweetz:

Anti-racism vigil in solidarity with the people of Charlottesviille…

Meanwhile…

Oh.

At Home With Richard Spencer (irish Times)

92 thoughts on “Galway United

  1. Nick

    Wonderful opportunity for the people to virtue signal on their facebook profile Well done all involved

      1. MoyestWithExcitement

        Going on a public forum to tell everyone that you’re not like those virtue signallers is virtue signaling in itself. Keep letting your mask of civility slip though, Harold. What did you get up to over the weekend? Did you and Clamps get together to watch footage of your white brethren in Charlottsville over a bottle of wine?

    1. snowey

      100% Nick…beautiful thoughts zero practicality or relevance
      what better way to say “aren’t I brilliant” and get that approval of your peers in your echo chamber.

      1. Nigel

        Sneering at other people using the alt-right framing of particular points of view as ‘virtue signalling’ is popular for that I hear.

        1. snowey

          they are indeed….but the phrase is out there….one has the option to use it
          no group(s) owns language…although the bandwagon progressive left do enjoy trying to make that happen.

          1. Nigel

            One has the option to spit in the wind and get a mouthful of one’s own saliva in the gob, but one could also choose to not do that.

          2. snowey

            nigel – I commend your way with words

            That is true. although copping a load of my own spit doesn’t fill me with total dread….maybe a strangers though….yuck.

    2. The Ghost of Starina

      “Such pathetic virtue signalling,” muttered Nick smugly, as he gazed disdainfully at photos of the D-Day landing.

        1. The Ghost of Starina

          Ok then. I’ll rephrase it for you, sweetheart.

          “Such pathetic virtue signalling,” muttered Nick smugly in 1965, as he gazed disdainfully at photos of people marching in Alabama.

          Better? Shout downstairs and ask your mom if you don’t know what I’m referencing. That’s a good boy.

    3. Daisy Chainsaw

      Wasn’t the nazi march where broflakes squeaked about “Jews will not replace us” the ultimate virtue signaling?

  2. Boj

    I wish all of these people would take such a passionate interest in Irish Politics. Maybe then something might change here, y’know … where ye all live!

        1. petey

          do you ever pay attention to anything else ever? if so, shouldn’t you be spending that time taking a passionate interest in irish politics?

    1. edalicious

      Yes, all those people holding banners with the names of Irish political parties should definitely take more interest in Irish politics.

        1. Boj

          Because they are too busy following the good example set by facebook.
          Like me, I’m nice and I have principals. Is there anything to be said for another Ice Bucket ‘challenge’.

          1. AssPants

            Fubbing brilliant……………..

            This summers “Ice Bucket challenge” is Anti-America and anything that Trump and Connor McGreggor may say or not say.

            All very hip on FaceTube to bash these topical names.

          2. LW

            So these people in Galway, demonstrating for what they believe in, are wrong. So too were the people raising money for motor neuron disease while having fun making videos. Is there anything good in life apart from bemoaning the actions of others on the internet Boj? Signal to us, where does true virtue lie?

          3. Boj

            LW, you are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting me. I have no issue with any of these causes. It is the falling over each other to be seen to be good which I have an issue with. Optics and vanity driven self promotion. My initial comment was that I wish such passion was shown for the many issues in our own country. I’m willing to wager that the majority of those people have social media accounts, and the majority of those people have updated their said accounts with their amazing awesomeness.

          4. LW

            Of course the majority of them have social media accounts, the majority of people in Ireland have social media accounts. And it certainly would make sense, if you believe in something, to publicise it via those channels.

            What I am misunderstanding is the bitterness you’re displaying towards them, especially if you’ve no issue with the cause. As someone else pointed out, there’s a lot of banners there from various organisations, it’s safe to say that these people *are* politically active, and in a local context, not just about issues in the wider world.

            I think if you’re gonna find fault with people not engaging with politics in Ireland, political activists should probably not be the focus of your ire. Perhaps the ditch hurlers of comment sections would make more sensible targets.

          5. Nigel

            Falling over each other to have a go at people who dare to be anti-racist in public and have social media accounts in this day and age and somehow don’t hate themselves or feel shame and post images as if they’re proud of their beliefs and ideals, all following a fairly major incident is, like, the best way to do stuff and things and yay.

        1. AssPants

          LW – how many of those who took the life-time milestone and accomplishment of pour cold water on their head actually raised money, and then forwarded it to Motor Neuron disease, also how many of the challengers actually knew the origins of the challenge.

          What I am reading within this thread is that most people see there are more attention seekers than genuine contributors for social matters in society these days; and the selfie addicts are suffocating the genuine and discrete contributors to society.

          If you think back to ice bucket challenge how many people did you know, or know of, whom participated in the challenge and how much money did they raise and how much was actually paid over to the relevant charity,

          There is plenty of good in the world, however with the FaceTubes of our society all we will ever hear and see is those who shout loudest and need most attention………………

          1. Nigel

            Gotta say, ‘attention seeking’ is older than ‘virtue signalling’ but it’s one of those stupid meaningless but unanswerable criticisms of anybody who tries to do anything anywhere about anything. Almost as if you’re trying to ‘shame’ people. Because being anti-racist is…’shameful?’ Oooh. Gotcha.

          2. LW

            Sorry Asspants, never saw your comment. The videos followed a fairly consistent template, with the majority mentioning the text number at the end, and referencing the disease, MND here, or ALS in the states. A lot of people then posted the screenshot of their receipt from the text donation. So I’d say most people knew what it was about. Apparently your disdain for the cause was such that you didn’t even watch a video through, there was no need to raise and deliver money, each person taking part texted a number which took a donation for the charity involved. It was also possible to text the number without doing a video, so I suppose I’d question your own genuine, discreet commitment, if you’d done it, you’d know that.

            Thinking back, a load of people I know did it, I’d say most of my connections online.

            Regardless of whether every single person was personally driven by a determination to end motor neuron disease, or as you seem to suggest every person wanted attention, or whether it was a perfect opportunity to both raise money for a good cause AND get the dopamine hits of online approval, does it really matter? The result was positive, the money helped, because of everyone who donated.

            These genuine and presumably discreet rather than discrete contributors aren’t being suffocated by selfie addicts. If their discretion means they don’t want attention, they’re not losing out. I also wonder exactly how much attention any one person can get for doing something so ubiquitous as the ice bucket challenge. It’s not really gonna set you apart from the crowd, so I’m not sure how well the attention-seeking argument holds up there.

            But in the specific instance of this vigil in Galway, you have a number of people, including the Galway anti racism network, showing solidarity with the people affected by Charlottesville. At what point does this become shameless self promotion?

            With regards to political aims generally, how do you feel they could be brought about, without marches and demonstrations and social media? Do you think telepathy would work? If there’s something you think is wrong, or needs to change, you have to express that idea – just like you did about attention seekers. The louder you shout, the better your chance of being heard

          3. AssPants

            I don’t believe everyone is out for self serving gratification.

            In generations before us, people marched without the assistance of social media.

            In the current day, social media has brought about the ease and past-time of “attention seeking”; I would suggest the selfie addicts may be of the self serving type.

            I regularly regret posting an opinion on here, as you can never hear and feel somebody’s point via black and white text, and then of course there may be the odd grammatical mistakes which is often hijacked by others who cannot hear your point of view and comment on that.

            LW – great comment and well written. You are most definitely right I didn’t watch any ice bucket challenge, not because it was for a charitable and noble cause, but rather the by time I came upon it, the momentum of the challenge was under a different steam to charitable purpose.

            And if I am right, I certainly remember listening to commentary by senior individual within one of the common charities re-iterated a similar point. The cause of the challenge was lost at some point.

          4. LW

            I suspect on that last point, you are wrong. I’ve yet to hear a charity boss complaining that donations weren’t made by pure of heart.

            And certainly, previous generations marched without social media, although that’s not really a fair comparison. It’s like lauding someone from Renaissance Italy for not using a combustible engine to get to work

  3. Eamonn Clancy

    It’s not officially Galway unless there’s a Jack Russell wearing a bandana somewhere in that shot.

  4. Holden MaGroin

    Bodger did the IT change the title of the article or is that what you called it? Now it’s called “Reporters Notebook: America’s alt-right champion credits Trump with movement’s revival”.

  5. nellyb

    People sacrificed midweek evening for it. It’s a big fupping deal if one works full time or busy with kids n family all day. Respect, Galway

    1. Boj

      And I’d say they all slept soundly that night, comforted by the fact that they are better than you and you and you. Like

    1. Frilly Keane

      Don’t be such a pr1ck Murty

      what started during the era of the Black n’Tans
      And the burning of Cork
      And the destruction of the Cork GAA training set up
      Days before the All Ireland
      (And the reason why we are now in Red n’White btw)
      Had only one Mission
      And it one Statement to make

      The Rebel County will Rise again

      ‘eff off with yer dragging us inta what went on in Charlottesville and what’s going on throughout the States

      Its lazy
      And ignorant

      For the record
      It breaks my heart to tell ye that
      I won’t be flying my Stars n’Bars anymore

      And I’m disgusted about it
      My ancestors (known then as the Boat People as my great grandmother had the fishing licence on the Lee up to the North Gate Bridge) flew that flag on Pope’s Quay after their workshop was been ransacked and looted and then scorched by Black n’Tan thugs.

      There’s a lot more to that flag

        1. LW

          Yeah, whatever about in the American south, it’s hard to see why Cork people are so defensive about the Confederate flag

        2. Frilly Keane

          Give over
          You know Cork weren’t the only County to start flying that flag

          ‘the others just got lazy about their flags n’just made do with crepe hats

  6. snowey

    That Phillip O’Connor fella sound like a closed minded fool. cancels his subscription because the IT dares do a piece on a person he doesn’t like. Surely the way to a better world is to at least try understand all sides….but no!!
    our hero demands we silence the people he doesn’t like, (probably and ironically) he is hellbent on not giving them a platform cos they are “facists” – well…

    1. Barry the Hatchet

      Richard Spencer is more than “a person he doesn’t like”. Richard Spencer is a white supremacist and a neo-Nazi who believes in ethnic cleansing. Why on earth should we try to “understand” him?

      1. snowey

        because he can hang himself with his own petard (as they say) – let his ideas get out and they can be debated also by giving him airtime we remove his “I’m oppressed” arguments

        Finally he has supporters who feel disenfranchised (normally that’s where the troop for these guys come from) by understanding them (and what leads them to people like Spencer) we can allay their fears/hates etc…reducing their numbers…but I guess that sounds like too much work and it may work so let just fight hate with more hate instead.

        In Ireland john hume brought us peace cos he spoke with all sides..even the bad ones.
        He was lashed for it but he was right and everybody knows it

        and on a personal level – I like to learn…finding out what makes Richard Spencer tick is interesting…not as interesting as other topics but I’m curious esp to see his special hobby room (as referred to by TheRealJane)

        is curiosity now banned cos the subject is taboo?

        1. TheRealJane

          It really isn’t though. Basically what makes him tick is exactly the same as what makes others like him tick – his massive ego butting up against the reality that he’s a sadsack inadquate. He deals with this by promoting hate against people he considers inferior to him and get a whole load of losers to join up with him to bolster their flailing sense of self.

          It’s not mysterious or interesting or even complex. It’s just a pitiful little man with his pitiful little friends whipping up mutual anger and taking their disillusionment with their sorry lives out on others.

        2. MoyestWithExcitement

          “Finally he has supporters who feel disenfranchised (normally that’s where the troop for these guys come from) by understanding them (and what leads them to people like Spencer) we can allay their fears/hates etc…reducing their numbers…but I guess that sounds like too much work and it may work so let just fight hate with more hate instead.”

          People like you are not interested in solutions, you are interested in maintaining the system that gives you comfort and “virtue signaling” about how reasonable and non extremist you are.

          “The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white conservatives.” – Malcolm X

          “First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.” – MLK

        3. Barry the Hatchet

          First of all, it’s “hoist with his own petard”.

          Secondly, your argument is horsepoo. Some ideas and some people simply do not need to be given a platform. White supremacy is one such idea. See also: holocaust denial, climate change denial, gay conversion therapy. We know what these ideas are about – we have heard them all before. They are not reasonable. They are not right. They should not be the subject of “curiosity”. They are appalling and they should be condemned.

          By giving this man airtime, we legitimise his ideas and disseminate them to a wider audience. By writing cuddly articles about the kind of shoes he was wearing at his nice press conference, without also setting out in detail why he is a dangerous lunatic, we legitimise him as a reasonable human being, rather than a radical, dangerous and violent scumbag.

    2. TheRealJane

      “So Richard, I’d like to understand what makes you tick.”

      “I’m a massive racist and I believe in a master race. I describe myself as a Nazi because those are the things that most people understand are the beliefs of Nazis.”

      “Anything else?”

      “Not really, no. Would you like to see my special hobby room?”

      “Let’s not and say we did”.

      “Ok so. Laters. Also heil Hitler”.

      “Oh you!”

  7. Tommy Sheehan

    Free education is wasted on the lot of you
    We are the only country I know of that calls for the subjugation and/or slaughter of the little brown fellows east of the Bosporus, once on a Sunday twice every other day on the national radio
    We just erected a statue in Ennis to Irish slavers to honour them
    Louth and Cork are the only two places I know of that remember the aid from North Africa during the Famine
    The crest of Drogheda has the star and moon because of it
    I could go on but need to watch my blood presure

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