Sorry, I don’t quite understand.
Are you saying Hillary Clinton is the one who triggered all the current news items about Harvey?
bisted
…Hillary who?
Rob_G
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Hillary Clinton didn’t give a poop when it was her own husband using his powerful position to sexually exploit young women, I would doubt if she cared about some film producer doing same.
MoyestWithExcitement
“?”
He’s saying Hillary Clinton has zero to do with Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulting women so it’s shameless political point scoring to bring her up. You’re showing your “civility” again by blaming a woman for the actions of her husband. Well done.
Gimme Shelter
I think he’s directly implying that the reason the Harvey Weinstein allegations have finally come to the public eye is because up to now he was bribing Hillary Clinton to subvert them. A jolly sort of chap and original thinker is our poster.
MoyestWithExcitement
Yeah, fair enough. I note as well that a lot of her detractors, like Psycho Rob here, are ideologically aligned with Clinton meaning there must be some *other* reason for the resentment they feel towards HER. I wonder what that could be. Hmmmmm.
ReproBertie
I have a quick question for you jusayinlike.
Who is responsible for Harvey Weinstein’s behaviour?
a) Loads of people, including Hillary Clinton and Donald “not surprised” Trump, who aren’t Harvey Weinstein
or
b) Harvey Weinstein
Apparently, she praised the “courage” of Weinstein’s accusers.
And has been asked, if they are more courageous than Broaddrick, Willey or Jones?
Women whom Hillary treated very badly.
She’s a hypocrite, jumping on a bandwagon.
Gimme Shelter
Have the allegations made by Broaddrick, Willey or Jones been proven in a court of law?
Nigel
The hypocrisy of attacking her for this (though she does deserve cririticism) after Trump got elected to the most powerful political position in the world is astronomical. Not much attention paid to his accuders; eh? Rich powerful white men sexually harass women: let’s attack a woman for it!
Great budget news for us vultures.
The CGT exemption 7-year rule reduced to four isn’t garnering much attention in the media but there’s a hell of a lot of properties scooped up by private investors under this scheme which can now be sold tax free.
The question is does one sell or hold while the latest property bubble gathers pace ?
What a nice quandary to find oneself in and what a pleasant surprise from Paschal.
jusayinlike
In the mean time keep paying the management fees on all four of those apartments bud..
GiggidyGoo
TIM must have called in some favors?
GiggidyGoo
Yiz…not TIM
Twunt
Do you know what a ‘vulture fund’ is?
Charlie
I don’t know what a tracker mortgage is.
Twunt
Indeed, I find that most people who harp on about ‘vulture funds’ have no idea what they are for, or that their pension fund probably has ‘vulture funds’ in it. Blaming a vulture fund for buying distress assets is a bit like blaming a Plummer for clearing your blocked toilet. Neither created the mess.
Harry Molloy
massive +1
spudnick
You pay your Christopher Plummer for clearing your jacks, but you don’t have to give him huge tax breaks stretching into the future at the same time.
I don’t blame a vulture fund for doing what it does, might as well blame a wasp for stinging you. I blame athe government for supporting the vulture fund in doing what they do, at the expense of the state and it’s citizens. I refer you to the tax loopholes that allowed them to register as charities and pay very little tax. All very legal but immoral and scummy.
MoyestWithExcitement
“their pension fund probably has ‘vulture funds’ in it.”
Yes, mate. Everyone has pension funds so vulture funds are a Good Thing. Right Wing Fantasy Land is *the* place to be. :D
Twunt
That wasn’t what I said
MoyestWithExcitement
“I don’t blame a vulture fund for doing what it does”
I do. Language sometimes presents us this problem where we forget what stuff actually is so people get a pass. People talk about ‘vulture funds’ and ‘the free market’ as being this sentient thing in of itself as opposed to a collection of human beings making conscious decisions for reasons usually centred around greed and apathy towards the wellbeing of their neighbours.
Twunt
A vulture fund is the consequence of not servicing debt. They exist because someone created a need for it. Their behaviour is not something to be admired, but assets don’t end up there by accident. A bank selling to a VF is taking a loss, but they think it is worth it.
Gimme Shelter
I agree with Moyest and his theory of right wing lalaland fantasy economics. Even a toddler learns that if he repeatedly throws his toys out of the pram there are consequences.
MoyestWithExcitement
“A vulture fund is the consequence of not servicing debt. They exist because someone created a need for it. Their behaviour is not something to be admired, but assets don’t end up there by accident.”
Replace the term ‘vulture fund’ with ‘loan shark’ there and tell me if you feel the same about what you just said.
Peter Dempsey
Loan sharks aren’t in the house mortgage market. The interest rates that some defaulters were on were actually quite low.
Twunt
Equating Loan Sharks and Vulture Funds in this way is utter nonsense. You come across as financially illiterate.
MoyestWithExcitement
“Loan sharks aren’t in the house mortgage market.”
Irrelevant. If vulture funds are an inevitable consequence of the existence of debts, so are loan sharks, so if you’re going to defend or “contextualize” vulture funds, you have to do the same for loan sharks.
MoyestWithExcitement
“Equating Loan Sharks and Vulture Funds in this way is utter nonsense. You come across as financially illiterate.”
No, I equated your defence of one consequence of debt with another consequence of debt. You come across as *actually* illterate. I’d put money on you not having the first clue about anything finance related as well.
MoyestWithExcitement
Also, your offended tone pretty much confirms your stance on vulture funds is emotional and thus ideological as opposed to being based on an objective analysis of the facts.
Twunt
ahhh you are the one getting emotional and offended comrade. You come across as an idealistic, arsey know it all. Well read and probably well educated, but totally and odds with the reality of the world around you.
And I didn’t condone the actions of VF’s, I just tried to shed some light on the reason for their existing.
SB
Well, supply & demand – if there’s a sudden glut of properties for sale, then prices will come down. Sounds sensible to me.
dav
Compulsory purchase orders on developer land banks sounds sensible to me.
Spaghetti Hoop
The Irish Sun….is the ‘creative’ department on drugs / everlasting gobstoppers?
scottser
that’s actually a brilliant front page and headline.
it would make a pretty cool t-shirt.
Charlie
Croatia will be too classy for us and Italy too clever. Denmark or Switzerland please.
Brother Barnabas
Wouldn’t be too keen on Switzerland.
Bertie Blenkinsop
Bendtner is still up front for Denmark isn’t he?
I’ll take them so…
* cue Bendtner hat trick in play offs *
Gimme Shelter
He doesn’t lack football talent.
Bertie Blenkinsop
I think he’s found his level at Rosenborg.
Gimme Shelter
Is that where he is now? Ah he just got too much too young and couldn’t handle it. Like Wayne Rooney.
Bertie Blenkinsop
Hope I’m only half right :)
Charlie
They were poo last night.
GiggidyGoo
The top three titles above must have received their first down payment from the €5m slush fund.
Looks like Harvey stopped paying off Hillary..
Sorry, I don’t quite understand.
Are you saying Hillary Clinton is the one who triggered all the current news items about Harvey?
…Hillary who?
?
Hillary Clinton didn’t give a poop when it was her own husband using his powerful position to sexually exploit young women, I would doubt if she cared about some film producer doing same.
“?”
He’s saying Hillary Clinton has zero to do with Harvey Weinstein sexually assaulting women so it’s shameless political point scoring to bring her up. You’re showing your “civility” again by blaming a woman for the actions of her husband. Well done.
I think he’s directly implying that the reason the Harvey Weinstein allegations have finally come to the public eye is because up to now he was bribing Hillary Clinton to subvert them. A jolly sort of chap and original thinker is our poster.
Yeah, fair enough. I note as well that a lot of her detractors, like Psycho Rob here, are ideologically aligned with Clinton meaning there must be some *other* reason for the resentment they feel towards HER. I wonder what that could be. Hmmmmm.
I have a quick question for you jusayinlike.
Who is responsible for Harvey Weinstein’s behaviour?
a) Loads of people, including Hillary Clinton and Donald “not surprised” Trump, who aren’t Harvey Weinstein
or
b) Harvey Weinstein
Apparently, she praised the “courage” of Weinstein’s accusers.
And has been asked, if they are more courageous than Broaddrick, Willey or Jones?
Women whom Hillary treated very badly.
She’s a hypocrite, jumping on a bandwagon.
Have the allegations made by Broaddrick, Willey or Jones been proven in a court of law?
The hypocrisy of attacking her for this (though she does deserve cririticism) after Trump got elected to the most powerful political position in the world is astronomical. Not much attention paid to his accuders; eh? Rich powerful white men sexually harass women: let’s attack a woman for it!
I did no such thing you hyperbolic loon!
You literally just did.
No Nigel.
I did not do what you spewed.
Great budget news for us vultures.
The CGT exemption 7-year rule reduced to four isn’t garnering much attention in the media but there’s a hell of a lot of properties scooped up by private investors under this scheme which can now be sold tax free.
The question is does one sell or hold while the latest property bubble gathers pace ?
What a nice quandary to find oneself in and what a pleasant surprise from Paschal.
In the mean time keep paying the management fees on all four of those apartments bud..
TIM must have called in some favors?
Yiz…not TIM
Do you know what a ‘vulture fund’ is?
I don’t know what a tracker mortgage is.
Indeed, I find that most people who harp on about ‘vulture funds’ have no idea what they are for, or that their pension fund probably has ‘vulture funds’ in it. Blaming a vulture fund for buying distress assets is a bit like blaming a Plummer for clearing your blocked toilet. Neither created the mess.
massive +1
You pay your Christopher Plummer for clearing your jacks, but you don’t have to give him huge tax breaks stretching into the future at the same time.
Vulture funds don’t create tax loopholes, governments do.
I don’t blame a vulture fund for doing what it does, might as well blame a wasp for stinging you. I blame athe government for supporting the vulture fund in doing what they do, at the expense of the state and it’s citizens. I refer you to the tax loopholes that allowed them to register as charities and pay very little tax. All very legal but immoral and scummy.
“their pension fund probably has ‘vulture funds’ in it.”
Yes, mate. Everyone has pension funds so vulture funds are a Good Thing. Right Wing Fantasy Land is *the* place to be. :D
That wasn’t what I said
“I don’t blame a vulture fund for doing what it does”
I do. Language sometimes presents us this problem where we forget what stuff actually is so people get a pass. People talk about ‘vulture funds’ and ‘the free market’ as being this sentient thing in of itself as opposed to a collection of human beings making conscious decisions for reasons usually centred around greed and apathy towards the wellbeing of their neighbours.
A vulture fund is the consequence of not servicing debt. They exist because someone created a need for it. Their behaviour is not something to be admired, but assets don’t end up there by accident. A bank selling to a VF is taking a loss, but they think it is worth it.
I agree with Moyest and his theory of right wing lalaland fantasy economics. Even a toddler learns that if he repeatedly throws his toys out of the pram there are consequences.
“A vulture fund is the consequence of not servicing debt. They exist because someone created a need for it. Their behaviour is not something to be admired, but assets don’t end up there by accident.”
Replace the term ‘vulture fund’ with ‘loan shark’ there and tell me if you feel the same about what you just said.
Loan sharks aren’t in the house mortgage market. The interest rates that some defaulters were on were actually quite low.
Equating Loan Sharks and Vulture Funds in this way is utter nonsense. You come across as financially illiterate.
“Loan sharks aren’t in the house mortgage market.”
Irrelevant. If vulture funds are an inevitable consequence of the existence of debts, so are loan sharks, so if you’re going to defend or “contextualize” vulture funds, you have to do the same for loan sharks.
“Equating Loan Sharks and Vulture Funds in this way is utter nonsense. You come across as financially illiterate.”
No, I equated your defence of one consequence of debt with another consequence of debt. You come across as *actually* illterate. I’d put money on you not having the first clue about anything finance related as well.
Also, your offended tone pretty much confirms your stance on vulture funds is emotional and thus ideological as opposed to being based on an objective analysis of the facts.
ahhh you are the one getting emotional and offended comrade. You come across as an idealistic, arsey know it all. Well read and probably well educated, but totally and odds with the reality of the world around you.
And I didn’t condone the actions of VF’s, I just tried to shed some light on the reason for their existing.
Well, supply & demand – if there’s a sudden glut of properties for sale, then prices will come down. Sounds sensible to me.
Compulsory purchase orders on developer land banks sounds sensible to me.
The Irish Sun….is the ‘creative’ department on drugs / everlasting gobstoppers?
that’s actually a brilliant front page and headline.
it would make a pretty cool t-shirt.
Croatia will be too classy for us and Italy too clever. Denmark or Switzerland please.
Wouldn’t be too keen on Switzerland.
Bendtner is still up front for Denmark isn’t he?
I’ll take them so…
* cue Bendtner hat trick in play offs *
He doesn’t lack football talent.
I think he’s found his level at Rosenborg.
Is that where he is now? Ah he just got too much too young and couldn’t handle it. Like Wayne Rooney.
Hope I’m only half right :)
They were poo last night.
The top three titles above must have received their first down payment from the €5m slush fund.
+1
https://youtu.be/StTqXEQ2l-Y
yup. repeat after me. everything is awesome.