It wasn’t intended as a sleight Clampers, I just meant you can be a tad eh…. dogged.
No disrespect to your ancestors intended.
Love always x
Nigel
Well how do you do do
Young Clampers and Nige
Do you mind if I comment
Down by your feud-side
And chat for a while
About Broadsheet’s content
I’ve been workin’ all day
I need a LJG vid laugh at
I see by the time stamps
You been at it since one
Would you give it a rest
You spoil everyone’s fun
Did you beat the horse deadly
Did you shake your head sadly
At the wrongness of the other
That must be dispelled?
DID YOU TYPE ALL IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS?
Did you each call the other a ra-a-a-cist?
LW
Bravo
Nigel
So it turns out ‘laugh at’ and ‘content’ don’t rhyme. Nobody tell Moynes.
Correct in that it honours the British retired forces, but it does aid civilians – the widows and families of British troops killed in current conflicts as well as previous ones. A very respected charity over yonder, but the Irish should distance themselves from the poppy if it is neutral. Plus the French, Germans, Dutch and Belgians do not poppy-up at Armistice time. There is a Remembrance Day every July for Irish troops killed in wars; WW1 and WW2 included with the Civil and Independence Wars. That should be given more credence and reflection by the Irish Government.
Nice Anne
100000 Irish men and women served in WW1 and 2.
paddy apathy
Hoodwinked. It shouldn’t be celebrated or glorified.
The greatest trick the English ever played in Ireland was to convince young Irishmen it was better to kill young German Soldiers for Irish freedom and not British. Suckers.
b
It’s easy to troll dead Irish soldiers isn’t it
Andy
I thought it was convincing the world England never existed?
Something is wrong here
Spaghetti Hoop
It was for cash, Eamonn.
Nigel
I can understand British people having reservations about the poppy since it seems to have become a reflexive symbol of unthinking patriotic nationalistic grandstanding, which is a pity, but you can’t really accuse an Irish poppy-wearer of that, can you?
Paps
Many British wear a Poppy Shamrock?
Nigel
Actually never heard of the poppy shamrock before – no idea who or how many wear it.
Sheik Yahbouti
It only came into existence this year
A new morkeshing dodge.
“become”… Ask yourself why,and whopushes that claptrap. Your friends on the far-left Nigel.
Nigel
You mean the people who attack and criticise people for not wearing the poppy in public? That’s being going on for a while. No idea who they are. I know there were people who ciriticsed the idea of the poppy from the left but I never particularly agreed with them, and I don’t think they ever went after anyone for wearing it the way some now go after people for not wearing it. Unfortunately they have validated those old criticisms.
It’s a choice. Anyone who attacks someone for not wearing, disrespects it.
There are a-holes on both sides.
Nigel
Okay then.
Harry Molloy
+1
bad@memes
I sniggered at ;far-left Nigel’.
Sorry.
No reflection on our Nigel. It’s just…
…it doesn’t matter.
Sorry.
bad@memes
Leo likes badges.
He doesn’t only wear them like a 17yr old in the late 70s, he has one for anyone who’s not in his audience.
Gearóid
Leo Varadkar giving money to British Army veterans, none of whom fought in the First World War.
bad@memes
OUR money!
bad@memes
This is a perfect example of Social Media swimming up it’s own oriface.
– Getting so indignated that they feel they MUST post a comment to fix things.
Meanwhile, back in the ‘real’ World…
bad@memes
The Mods are back from their lunch.
I’m going to stop commenting.
Tootle-oo to the Mods.
bad@memes
The Mods are in hyperdrive…
You can’t even say ‘fu99’ anymore.
bad@memes
The rules keep changing.
We (I) have them on the defence fence.
I’m drunk and I approve this message..
H
For a long time after I moved to London I didn’t wear a poppy because I saw it as a Loyalist emblem and that didn’t sit well with my world view at the time. I started wearing one about 20 years ago and that did not impress my Irish friends but I persevered because I want to remember those who fought in the two world wars and I am proud to count a number of relatives among them. Those who think Ireland would have benefited from a different outcome are sadly misguided.
I also wear a poppy and give to the appeal to support the living veterans of all wars and conflicts who, until recently, got very little support from the British government.
If and when the British prosecute war well let them fund the poor maimed and broken soldiers that return. It’s they’re own doing.
Charger Salmons
As a Brit living in Ireland I’m glad that Varadkar chose to recognise the sacrifices of tens of thousands of Irish soldiers who died fighting alongside soldiers from all over the world in defeating the Nazis.
Equally I support that young scamp James McClean’s stance in not wearing the poppy on his match jersey.
The whole point of the servicemen who died fighting for the Allies in the 2nd World War was to give people like McClean the freedom to choose whether to wear the poppy of not.
Comparing the Easter Lilly which commemorates Provisional IRA, Official IRA and INLA members, among others, is not the same as wearing a Poppy Shamrock…. jaysus!…. chalk and cheese!
The Poppy has become a gateway badge to Nationalism, which in turn is a gateway to Racism and other mind-altering idealogies.
It’s symbolism is distorted, misused and out-dated.
#Dropthepoppy
bad@memes
Nobody ever died from an overdose of shamrock juice.
Just sayin’…
realPolithicks
It’s hardly surprising from this mug, he pledges allegiance to the queen first thing every morning.
Sheik Yahbouti
I was brought up in England until the age of ten, and I think the poppy thing is now seriously overdone. The poppies used to be sold in the week before Remembrance Sunday, were proudly worn on that day – and that was it. Now there’s about six months of nonsense over poppy wearing – and bigger and bigger poppies. Clever morkeshing to sell more and stoke up nationalism.
realPolithicks
I couldn’t agree more, I grew up in Ireland in the 70’s and watched a lot of british tv. I recall that the poppy would be worn on the couple of days before the remembrance day and that was it. Now they seem to be required to wear the poppy for the entire month of November, and woe betide if you don’t. I live in the US and NBCSports broadcasts the premier league games each weekend. The hosts on this show who are mostly english have been wearing poppies for the past two weeks. This is on a show that is only seen here in the US. It’s madness.
jusayinlike
Tory..
Kolmo
Unfortunate cannonfodder, from all the colonies, mindlessly flung at the machine guns of another (related) empire with the temerity to try and emulate what the British did for centuries all over the world – no amount of wrapping the long dead with contemporaious jingoistic nonsense will make their deaths glorious. Nothing glorious about it. WW1 was a crime against all. We are a seperate nation now (mostly), most of us are proud of the stand that was made against those who saw our antecedents as nothing more than sub-human apes, kept as illiterate backward, sometimes useful cretins at the edge of existence. Wear a British legion poppy all you like, look at the shiny brass and elaborate flags – but don’t pretend they gave a damn about those they fooled into protecting their huge empire.
Gokkers
+1
Sheik Yahbouti
+1.
Sheik Yahbouti
kolmo, I take all of your points – but little has changed and there’s the rub. Trump dodged service because of “heel spurs’, the children of the poor went in his stead. The only change is that my great grandpa and great uncles went out of misguided patriotism, now the young Americans go for scholarships and University fees. The result doesn’t change – the children of the poor fighting the battles FOR the rich.
My great grandfather was an Englishman who fought in WW1. It should not have ever occurred, and was a slaughter of innocents on all sides because of government failures. The poppy today is used as a recruiting tool for an army that continues to be responsible for much bloodshed of innocent civilians, ie Iraq, etc. What military intervention by the UK over the last 17 years has been legitimate? And yet it continues.
No to poppies, no to cannon fodder.
OiOi
Where can poppies be picked up – been meaning to buy one for myself and my mothers uncle but haven’t seen them being sold
Spaghetti Hoop
There’s a wagon selling them outside the Dáil with ‘B A N D’ written on the side of it. Joke.
There is a branch of the British Legion in Ireland who distribute poppies for Armistice Day: http://counties.britishlegion.org.uk/counties/ireland
If you are British, I can fully understand you wearing the poppy….if you are Irish, I kindly ask you think again.
Still, all those young lads (15+) killed in Europe deserve huge respect, the poor wee pawns.
Rugbyfan
Thanks for the info Hoop, I shall pop down today.
Rugbyfan
Likewise, I would like to buy one. Watched a programme on the Somme last night. Was a focus on Irish soldiers. Least we can do is remember them.
Djin Genie
Commemoration is warranted but a speech in the Dáil or the laying of a wreath would have been appropriate. The proceeds from this pin do not just go towards maintaining WW1 graveyards and memorials: they fund the Irish branch of the British Royal Legion in providing support to veterans and those in active service with the British military. This proceeds from this pin support Irish people who chose to fight for the British Army in its latter wars, such as in the Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq. It is wholly unacceptable for the leader of a neutral country to wear an emblem that supports involvement in those military actions.
Sad to see people so blasé about this profound disrespect for our neutrality.
Good for him.
Up early in the morning medal
I’m expecting mine in the post shortly
I have three blood relatives who fought in WWI. 2 uncles and a hand uncle of my Dad. All from Donegal. Fair play to them.
And fair play to those who will honor and remember the 9m soldiers (and 7m civilians) who died in it, lest we forget.
^grand uncle
I guess in a way their battling spirit lives on through your daily tussles with Nigel.
Haha
Ah now, don’t do that Bertie.
It wasn’t intended as a sleight Clampers, I just meant you can be a tad eh…. dogged.
No disrespect to your ancestors intended.
Love always x
Well how do you do do
Young Clampers and Nige
Do you mind if I comment
Down by your feud-side
And chat for a while
About Broadsheet’s content
I’ve been workin’ all day
I need a LJG vid laugh at
I see by the time stamps
You been at it since one
Would you give it a rest
You spoil everyone’s fun
Did you beat the horse deadly
Did you shake your head sadly
At the wrongness of the other
That must be dispelled?
DID YOU TYPE ALL IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS?
Did you each call the other a ra-a-a-cist?
Bravo
So it turns out ‘laugh at’ and ‘content’ don’t rhyme. Nobody tell Moynes.
That’s brilliant Nigel :)
I did laugh Nigel, fair play :)
I know you didn’t mean badness in that Bertie, blowing a x your way
Surely that deserves some sort of prize
Fabulous Nigel, yourself and Clampers are most entertaining when you go at it, nice to see you both so good humoured about it
Was it for this?
The Poppy doesn’t honour or remember any civilians. Only British armed services.
True, that’s why they are in brackets
Correct in that it honours the British retired forces, but it does aid civilians – the widows and families of British troops killed in current conflicts as well as previous ones. A very respected charity over yonder, but the Irish should distance themselves from the poppy if it is neutral. Plus the French, Germans, Dutch and Belgians do not poppy-up at Armistice time. There is a Remembrance Day every July for Irish troops killed in wars; WW1 and WW2 included with the Civil and Independence Wars. That should be given more credence and reflection by the Irish Government.
100000 Irish men and women served in WW1 and 2.
Hoodwinked. It shouldn’t be celebrated or glorified.
Commemorated is what is done.
And the good guys were inside the GPO, not outside.
Shouldn’t be forgotten either.
What about people who work nights.
https://www.google.ie/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjvi43h0q7XAhUsJsAKHXPlDJIQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redbubble.com%2Fpeople%2Fjekart%2Fworks%2F22936893-buy-the-ticket-take-the-ride%3Fp%3Dposter&psig=AOvVaw2SnV8oZEKrm1LDBbSayPPc&ust=1510219102997474
Plenty of people getting triggered by this on twitter, funny stuff.
History deniers.
The greatest trick the English ever played in Ireland was to convince young Irishmen it was better to kill young German Soldiers for Irish freedom and not British. Suckers.
It’s easy to troll dead Irish soldiers isn’t it
I thought it was convincing the world England never existed?
Something is wrong here
It was for cash, Eamonn.
I can understand British people having reservations about the poppy since it seems to have become a reflexive symbol of unthinking patriotic nationalistic grandstanding, which is a pity, but you can’t really accuse an Irish poppy-wearer of that, can you?
Many British wear a Poppy Shamrock?
Actually never heard of the poppy shamrock before – no idea who or how many wear it.
It only came into existence this year
A new morkeshing dodge.
“become”… Ask yourself why,and whopushes that claptrap. Your friends on the far-left Nigel.
You mean the people who attack and criticise people for not wearing the poppy in public? That’s being going on for a while. No idea who they are. I know there were people who ciriticsed the idea of the poppy from the left but I never particularly agreed with them, and I don’t think they ever went after anyone for wearing it the way some now go after people for not wearing it. Unfortunately they have validated those old criticisms.
It’s a choice. Anyone who attacks someone for not wearing, disrespects it.
There are a-holes on both sides.
Okay then.
+1
I sniggered at ;far-left Nigel’.
Sorry.
No reflection on our Nigel. It’s just…
…it doesn’t matter.
Sorry.
Leo likes badges.
He doesn’t only wear them like a 17yr old in the late 70s, he has one for anyone who’s not in his audience.
Leo Varadkar giving money to British Army veterans, none of whom fought in the First World War.
OUR money!
This is a perfect example of Social Media swimming up it’s own oriface.
– Getting so indignated that they feel they MUST post a comment to fix things.
Meanwhile, back in the ‘real’ World…
The Mods are back from their lunch.
I’m going to stop commenting.
Tootle-oo to the Mods.
The Mods are in hyperdrive…
You can’t even say ‘fu99’ anymore.
The rules keep changing.
We (I) have them on the
defencefence.I’m drunk and I approve this message..
For a long time after I moved to London I didn’t wear a poppy because I saw it as a Loyalist emblem and that didn’t sit well with my world view at the time. I started wearing one about 20 years ago and that did not impress my Irish friends but I persevered because I want to remember those who fought in the two world wars and I am proud to count a number of relatives among them. Those who think Ireland would have benefited from a different outcome are sadly misguided.
I also wear a poppy and give to the appeal to support the living veterans of all wars and conflicts who, until recently, got very little support from the British government.
+1
If and when the British prosecute war well let them fund the poor maimed and broken soldiers that return. It’s they’re own doing.
As a Brit living in Ireland I’m glad that Varadkar chose to recognise the sacrifices of tens of thousands of Irish soldiers who died fighting alongside soldiers from all over the world in defeating the Nazis.
Equally I support that young scamp James McClean’s stance in not wearing the poppy on his match jersey.
The whole point of the servicemen who died fighting for the Allies in the 2nd World War was to give people like McClean the freedom to choose whether to wear the poppy of not.
+1
But the Remembrance Sunday poppy stems from WW1, nowt to do with fighting Nazis.
Empire fighting Empire with the working class used as cannon-fodder. Barbaric.
Comparing the Easter Lilly which commemorates Provisional IRA, Official IRA and INLA members, among others, is not the same as wearing a Poppy Shamrock…. jaysus!…. chalk and cheese!
Decent short enuff read on the poppy and overall commemorations here – http://www.historyextra.com/remembrance
The Poppy has become a gateway badge to Nationalism, which in turn is a gateway to Racism and other mind-altering idealogies.
It’s symbolism is distorted, misused and out-dated.
#Dropthepoppy
Nobody ever died from an overdose of shamrock juice.
Just sayin’…
It’s hardly surprising from this mug, he pledges allegiance to the queen first thing every morning.
I was brought up in England until the age of ten, and I think the poppy thing is now seriously overdone. The poppies used to be sold in the week before Remembrance Sunday, were proudly worn on that day – and that was it. Now there’s about six months of nonsense over poppy wearing – and bigger and bigger poppies. Clever morkeshing to sell more and stoke up nationalism.
I couldn’t agree more, I grew up in Ireland in the 70’s and watched a lot of british tv. I recall that the poppy would be worn on the couple of days before the remembrance day and that was it. Now they seem to be required to wear the poppy for the entire month of November, and woe betide if you don’t. I live in the US and NBCSports broadcasts the premier league games each weekend. The hosts on this show who are mostly english have been wearing poppies for the past two weeks. This is on a show that is only seen here in the US. It’s madness.
Tory..
Unfortunate cannonfodder, from all the colonies, mindlessly flung at the machine guns of another (related) empire with the temerity to try and emulate what the British did for centuries all over the world – no amount of wrapping the long dead with contemporaious jingoistic nonsense will make their deaths glorious. Nothing glorious about it. WW1 was a crime against all. We are a seperate nation now (mostly), most of us are proud of the stand that was made against those who saw our antecedents as nothing more than sub-human apes, kept as illiterate backward, sometimes useful cretins at the edge of existence. Wear a British legion poppy all you like, look at the shiny brass and elaborate flags – but don’t pretend they gave a damn about those they fooled into protecting their huge empire.
+1
+1.
kolmo, I take all of your points – but little has changed and there’s the rub. Trump dodged service because of “heel spurs’, the children of the poor went in his stead. The only change is that my great grandpa and great uncles went out of misguided patriotism, now the young Americans go for scholarships and University fees. The result doesn’t change – the children of the poor fighting the battles FOR the rich.
+1 and some CCR to hammer home the point:
https://youtu.be/40JmEj0_aVM
+1.
My great grandfather was an Englishman who fought in WW1. It should not have ever occurred, and was a slaughter of innocents on all sides because of government failures. The poppy today is used as a recruiting tool for an army that continues to be responsible for much bloodshed of innocent civilians, ie Iraq, etc. What military intervention by the UK over the last 17 years has been legitimate? And yet it continues.
No to poppies, no to cannon fodder.
Where can poppies be picked up – been meaning to buy one for myself and my mothers uncle but haven’t seen them being sold
There’s a wagon selling them outside the Dáil with ‘B A N D’ written on the side of it. Joke.
There is a branch of the British Legion in Ireland who distribute poppies for Armistice Day: http://counties.britishlegion.org.uk/counties/ireland
If you are British, I can fully understand you wearing the poppy….if you are Irish, I kindly ask you think again.
Still, all those young lads (15+) killed in Europe deserve huge respect, the poor wee pawns.
Thanks for the info Hoop, I shall pop down today.
Likewise, I would like to buy one. Watched a programme on the Somme last night. Was a focus on Irish soldiers. Least we can do is remember them.
Commemoration is warranted but a speech in the Dáil or the laying of a wreath would have been appropriate. The proceeds from this pin do not just go towards maintaining WW1 graveyards and memorials: they fund the Irish branch of the British Royal Legion in providing support to veterans and those in active service with the British military. This proceeds from this pin support Irish people who chose to fight for the British Army in its latter wars, such as in the Gulf, Afghanistan and Iraq. It is wholly unacceptable for the leader of a neutral country to wear an emblem that supports involvement in those military actions.
Sad to see people so blasé about this profound disrespect for our neutrality.