123 thoughts on “De Sunday Papers

      1. Charger Salmons

        The Sunday Spud – bejaysus de boys in green won de Brexit.
        The Sunday Telegraph – Downing Street sources confirm the “full alignment ” clause is ” meaningless and non-binding ” under EU law and was only inserted to see off Paddy until the second stage.
        Ireland has been played like a harp.
        Hear that laughter ? That’s the sound of Arlene Foster enjoying her Ulster Fry this morning.
        She hasn’t gone away you know.

        1. Killian G

          Charger, when you reach puberty and look back on your comments, you’re going to feel very foolish.

          Quoting the Torygraph… whatever next.

          1. Charger Salmons

            Did you ever find that made-up quote that May agreed to a €50billion divorce bill ? You’ve had long enough.

    1. Charger Salmons

      Irish smuggerati pin-up Fintan O’Toolbox ” Ireland has made sure the UK stays in the single market and customs union.”
      Oh dear,poor Fintan,never mind.

      1. bisted

        …as a west-brit you probably don’t know that there is a Fintan O’Toolbox…featured here with Bodger’s bestie Tony Groves a few weeks ago…

          1. bisted

            …I take it you are referring to Ireland’s greatest living intellectual rather than the Donegal satirist…

          2. Charger Salmons

            You mean Fintan ” Britain will be plunged into immediate recession after the referendum vote ” O’Toolbox,Ireland’s greatest living intellectual ?

          3. bisted

            …I suppose if you don’t count things like the 1000’s of lost jobs, the plunge in the value of the pound, the failure to gain single concession from the EU, soaring inflation…not to mention the prospect of bleached chicken in those hallowed english institutions – Nandos and KFC…then Fintan got that badly wrong…

          4. Charger Salmons

            Thousands of lost jobs ?
            Unemployment is at its lowest level in nearly half a century.
            Record order books for business.
            Tens of thousands of East Europeans and a fair few Irish people still coming to Blighty very month to avail of the successful economy .
            Doh !

          5. Brother Barnabas

            Ah Charger, you go from stretching it to spoofing to just making a fool of yourself. When you’re talking up the UK economy post-Brexit, you’re in gullible fool territory. How’s that trade deficit going? Am sure it’s been bridged given the collapse in the value of sterling… no?

  1. Diddy

    Why is no one talking about the imminent gridlock the new Luas is about to cause. As and from Monday. Traffic jams back to Amiens st. The quays won’t move. Dorset st will be black. This Luas loop the loop across town is going to cripple the north side motorist. Expect joe Duffy to be busy.

    1. Cian

      The sky is going to fall on our heads!

      I remember this poop before the other 2 lines were commissioned. “The red cow roundabout is a nightmare – imagine adding a Luas onto it?” and you know what? the Luas and traffic lights were actually synchronised and didn’t cause all the grief that was predicted.

  2. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

    Riddle me this. If there’s full alignment with the customs union and single market, what is the point of Brexit?

    1. Charger Salmons

      Well 10 billion quid a year for a start.
      But as we’ve seen this morning full alignment was a deliberately vague phrase dreamed up by the EU and UK that Paddy swallowed hook,line and ginger.

      1. Listrade

        You mean a deliberately vague term that has a clear definition? As a man who knows his stuff charger, maybe you could help the simple spuds on here with your take on the difference between: ‘no regulatory divergence’, ‘full regulatory alignment’ and ‘regulatory equivalence’?

        1. Charger Salmons

          They can all mean whatever anyone wants them to mean and none of them are binding under EU law.
          As of this morning Dublin,the EU and London all have their own interpretation of this week’s agreement and all are irrelevant because they have served their intended purpose of moving on to trade talks.
          Constructive ambiguity.It’s rather like why there is free movement of goods in the EU but you still have to pay to import a car into Ireland.

          1. Listrade

            They can mean whatever you want them to mean when you’re making stuff up on the spot in order to claim a victory where there was none.

            In the real world they are discrete terms that have actual meaning. Diplomatic/treaty language may appear vague, but it never is. It all has meaning and a meaning that is agreed on before being written down.

            For the record no regulatory divergence would mean cutting and pasting the regulation. Which is actually less flexibility that UK would have now on directives, but same for EU regulations.

            Alignment would be similar to current process for transposing directives. Structure and effect must be the same, but text can vary. But the more different the text, the more likely the legal challenge, so most cut and paste.

            The key difference is that unlike now, the UK will have no input into the writing of the regulation, like Norway they just have to meet it.

          2. Charger Salmons

            All of which are currently irrelevant and legally ambiguous which was precisely what Downing Street has been briefing overnight.
            Of course Dublin briefs its own unquestioning media differently which is why,like nodding dogs in the back of a car,they’ve all been singing from the same hymn sheet.
            The most important thing to come out of this week is that other EU countries have made it clear to Barnier,Tusk and Druncker that they want a Brexit deal come what may.

          3. Listrade

            Downing Street has been playing down the impact of the deal? After it was harshly criticised as a capitulation by their hard Brexit members? Or the Lawyers for Brexit needed nappies to cope with the sudden onset of sphinctal dilation at anger at agreeing the whole of the UK agreed to regulatory alignment?

            Never saw that coming.

            Some fudge. Agree to having no influence on regulations, but implementing them and being bound to the ECJ.

            They can spin it however they want. It isn’t a vague term. It’s a formal term which has a well understood meaning.

          4. Charger Salmons

            David Davies on Sunday Politics this morning talking about the Irish border being controlled by technology and commercial licences.
            You know,exactly what Verruca dismissed a meaningless when he demanded ” firm commitments ” a week or two ago.
            I understand your disappointment.Nobody likes to be had like a chump.
            But had you have been.
            Never mind – all your buddies in Europe will look after you …. heh,heh,heh.

          5. Charger Salmons

            Tweet this morning from continuity Remainer and Sky political corr Faisal Islam on RTE Nodding Dog Tony Connelly’s timeline.

            “Trusted traders, electronic pre notification, small trader thresholds” says Davis of the solutions to Irish border in absence of Deal – errr where has “full alignment” gone?

            “No Deal means we won’t be paying the money” says Davis re settlement

            Oh dear,all that ejacualtion from the Irish media government stool pigeons about Ireland saving Brexit seems to have been premature.

          6. Listrade

            Did you come up with that rebuke all by yourself? Impressive.

            No deal means exactly what the agreement says, I.e. in the absence of a deal, it’s a safety net. I.e. hard Brexit avoided as agreed by all parties.

            Ignore the actual real all you want. Ignore the fact that no agreement has been made on the final bill, just how they will calculate it. Ignore that the final payment will be staggered so there’ll be an upfront cost and then later payments up to 2020.

            You know, continue to ignore the actual black and white text and listen to a Davis who is having to put a spin on it to appease the misguided and misinformed hard-line brexiters in his party.

            The important thing is it helps you sleep. Unlike things like actual words that were written and say something different. Like, say, the agreement.

          7. Brother Barnabas

            Seeing as we’re still waiting for Charger to respond to the demolition of his every comment on the Tuesday Papers thread, little chance he’ll respond to this. Suppose childish slurs are easier.

          8. Charger Salmons

            Your faith and trust in the good burghers of Brussels to look after your country is well-intended I’m sure,even if it’s a little misguided.
            But in a year’s time Varadkar’s little hissy fit aimed at the goons back home and applauded by the shrill chorus of media eunuchs will be long forgotten.
            There will eventually be a trade deal,there won’t a border and you’ll be chowing down on a chlorine-washed Abrekebabra chicken burger like the rest of them.
            Burgher/burger …. whoosh !

          9. Listrade

            Trade deal and no border you say? From the guy who said this week he wanted a hard Brexit, that seems like a bad deal for you. Or did you just redefine hard Brexit and wanting it?

            As to the rest…Well, it’s be ok of I’d been talking about good deals for Ireland or European competence in these matters. I never have. In fact I even wrote a piece on here about Ireland needed to help soften Brexit and criticising the EU.

            Aside from that all I’ve been doing today is pointing out that the opinions you are absorbing today to suit your dissonance run contrary to the actual thing that was agreed.

            For a man who favoured a hard Brexit (your words) to now paint a soft Brexit as a victory show remarkable cahoneys. The only way to avoid hard Brexit was to agree to EU terms on regulations and citizen rights. Exactly what May and Davis did.

            Like how all those immigrants you say are still coming (though official stats say more are leaving for the first time), can still bring over their family as recognised residents even after Brexit.

            You got your borders back bro…Apart from the hundreds of thousands who are already here and can now bring over their immediate family.

          10. Charger Salmons

            It’s cojones.
            If you’re going to pretend to be an expert on Europe at least use its languages correctly.

          11. Listrade

            Aw snap. You got me.

            Now we get to keep avoiding awkward things like facts and things you said just this week, but now contradict for another day.

          12. bisted

            …it’s ‘brexit agus learoidi’ in Irish Charger…now say ‘curry my yogurt’ like your friends in the DUP taught you…

      2. GiggidyGoo


        What is needed is someone with the Haughey killer instinct. Two choirboys (thank you Kate) tuning up for Merkel and Co. doesn’t cut it. Simon and Leo’s order for laurels has just been cancelled. How is it that people from just the normal electorate can see what happened, and Coveney and Varadkar still persist with telling everyone a ‘deal’ was done. Their demeanor at their press conference (with green lighting, just to agitate our Northern brethren) was far from ‘we got a deal’. It was a more, ‘we know that you know that we are lying’ look -one of betrayal actually. And they drag in Helen McEntee into the equation to try spread the blame. Shame.

        Just as a matter of interest. The figure been bandied about, say up to £45bn to be shut of the EU. How does that compare to the figure of the ‘bail out’ that covered the kraut and frog banking systems.

          1. GiggidyGoo

            €46.7bn is the last estimate. That’s the cost of bailing out the banks. At today’s rate of exchange, Sterling 45bn = €51,13. Not much of a difference.
            Is that yerself , my alter ego?

          2. Charger Salmons

            Sure is,me !
            Ireland still paying Blighty £42million every six months as part of the bail-out loan as it has done since the June 2014 and will continue to pay until March 2021.
            Just as well George Osbourne generously reduced the interest rate a few years ago otherwise the Spuds would be paying even more.
            Thanks Patrick !

          1. GiggidyGoo

            BB. You’re in the last refuge now. Resorting to the ‘multiple identities ‘ line.
            For your information , because I draw the same conclusions in some aspects as another contributor doesn’t automatically mean I agree with his/her overall views on Ireland. You’ll see from my comments that it’s the quality of our ‘leadership ‘ is what I’m questioning and the merry dance they’re trying to lead the Irish electorate.

          2. Charger Salmons

            You’ll have to do better than that.
            I do believe you have been found out as the Emperor with no clothes.
            Not been the best of weeks for you has it old sport ?

        1. some old queen

          This from the person who last week said that it didn’t matter who the leaders were because the negotiations were done by diplomats and foreign affairs anyways.

          Kraut? Frog? Really? Grow up!

          1. GiggidyGoo

            Well I didn’t say that. As far as I remember. There would be a link – maybe you can provide it?

          2. GiggidyGoo

            Taking you a long time to provide the link SOQ. Could it be….could it be…..could it be that you’re (perish the thought) lying?

          3. Charger Salmons

            It’s like that KillianG spoofer.
            Made up some quote about May accepting a €50billion divorce bill and then goes quiet when I ask for a source.
            How’s your afternoon going me ?

  3. Clampers Outside!

    Miriam interviewing Shane McGowan is a cringe fest ! …what’s it like having your birthday on Christmas day? D’ya like Christmas? What’s it like being friends with famous people like Depp and Nick Cave…

    Plse stop Miriam…

    *turns dial*

  4. jusayinlike

    Charger the one trick pony brexit scare monger, none of your hysterical doomsday visions are working out. The real question I want an answer for is how much management fees and prop tax you cough up every year for those ponce apartments you bought..

    1. Charger Salmons

      A lot less than the moolah I make from rents old cock.
      And they’re going up in the new year.Supply and demand and all that.

      1. jusayinlike

        So are your management fees and your property tax and capital gain tax is ropey aswell, you’ve got an agenda you’re not sharing old cock, your putrid investment in pyrite filled shoe boxes will explode in your face

      2. jusayinlike

        I’d wager a bet that you have already checked out bankruptcy process in the UK in case you’re wafer thin investment goes bosom up, I’d laugh if brexit ruled you out of their handy bankruptcy out, Leo and his Tory mates in revenue will have you for every cent, capital gains tax changes are gonna really adversely affect you bud..

        1. Charger Salmons

          How can one go bankrupt from a purchase made with cash ?
          Oh dear.You haven’t quite got the hang of this capitalism malarkey have you ?
          Pip pip !

          1. jusayinlike

            Brilliant, you spent your own money on those battery hen cages now I’m really laughing..

            Capitalism he calls it lol..

        1. jusayinlike

          You’ll be had when you’re stuck with those plastic shoe boxes you call an apartment, nobody will be renting them and obviously nobody will buy them, your capital tax will stink and you’ll be stuck with rising management fees and property tax.. wonder what you’ll be spouting when all that kicks in..

  5. Peter Dempsey

    Fintan O’Toolbox is the guy with the photo of someone from The Hills Have Eyes. He is a snivelling leftie, complete virtue signaller and just as bad as Fintan O’Toole.

      1. bertie blenkinsop

        I’m saying nothing for now, I have a horrible sense of foreboding about Rooney and Big Sam.

        * waves to Bisted *

        1. Brother Barnabas

          woah. .. that’s an odd team selection.

          (*in reference to the DUP border issue negotiating team)

          1. bertie blenkinsop

            No Can, Coutinho or Firmino…. most peculiar.
            Particularly with the form Coutinho is in.
            Henderson is a sending off waiting to happen.

          2. bisted

            …used to love sundays…finding a quiet corner of the pub with an armful of newspapers…now it’s wall-to-wall tvs showing english soccer and not a paper worth reading…would turn you to religion…

          3. Yep

            Henderson has to be the most mediocre player to ever captain Liverpool.

            Ferguson was spot on. He could tell from his weird run he would never be top class.

  6. some old queen

    Just wondering Charger. If as you say you are an Irishman living in Ireland, do you use such anti Irish sentiments in real world conversations? If so you must really like hospital food.

    1. Brother Barnabas

      racists, bigots and homophobes tend invariably to be utter cowards. pomp and bluster online, pathetic gimp offline.

      1. some old queen

        Trolling is a form of censorship as its intention is to pee people off so much that they don’t say anything. It just gets really boring after a while, especially when they are out of their depth.

      1. jusayinlike

        Ask charger about management fees on 4 apartments, ask charger about property tax on 4 apartments, ask charger about capital gains tax and negative equity, ask charger about UK/IRL bankruptcy processes particularly in relation to brrxit, ask charger about the build quality of his assets and long term leases which he doesn’t have.

          1. jusayinlike

            What’s there to be envious of tell me?

            All my points above still stand..

            Buying one apartment is risky, buying 4 is just plain stupid..

          2. Charger Salmons

            You’re even commenting on replies I send to another poster.
            I’ve got you baaaaaaaaaaaaad.

        1. Naoml

          Jusayinlike, he’s a fantasist, probably living in the granny-flat at his mammy’s, with not a pot to p*ss in. He’s an attention-whore at best.

  7. Naoml

    Surely not! Which part, fantasist living at home or craving attention? You’re nothing like the Charger, you’re very lucid for a start…;-)

      1. Andyourpointiswhatexactly?

        Like your fella.
        Innuendo, in YOUR end-o!

        I wish I could remember where my ‘catchphrases’ came from.

        1. Brother Barnabas

          Well, you know me, don’t like to blow my own trumpet, but, seeing as you asked, you’ve likely stared longingly at the March and October entries of Calendar of Beauteous Mickeys 2015… yes, I confess.

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