How come they’re all women too, where’s the equality in that?
tackling the real issues here
Rob_G
All of the images of fetuses that already have their eyes open and that can wave and smile and yawn and do maths all seem to be white also – a disgrace!
No surprise. The Irish can be very racist. Remember the 27th Amendment to the Constitution? Highest yes vote ever. And that was a vote to keep Ireland white.
Rob_G
Strange, I thought that it was a vote to stop people taking advantage of our asylum system.
Ina.
No, it was to stop Ireland becoming less white.
Anomanomanom
Your a moron
Ina
The truth is never palatable to racists.
Anomanomanom
So then you cant possibly know the truth.
Rob_G
Oh good, thanks for clearing that up for me.
#TheMoreYouKnow
Ina.
My pleasure.
Andrew
Ina, that isn’t true and you don’t know it to be true, so why peddle a lie?
David
Lol. That’s a new one
moral_judgement
Because Ireland isn’t America, and doesn’t have exactly the same political problems. Non-white women make up 3.75% of Ireland’s population, as compared with 15% in America. While Black and Asian minorities in America are rightly concerned about a lack of political or social representation proportionate to their contribution to society, Ireland is a different country with different populations that lack a political voice. In terms of minorities facing lack of representation, Irish people of the left should perhaps be a tad more focused on traveler women. Three out of three women being white is pretty typical for Ireland, even Dublin.
Joe Small
If the campaigns were to use a non-white woman’s image, it would probably be more accurate to use a Hispanic or Asian woman’s image, based on population numbers.
george
Travelers are only 0.7%
moral_judgement
Yes, I misread the totals there. My wider point stands.
Nigel
Fair point.
Joe Small
We may be multicultural but most of our immigrants are white. I’d imagine Ireland is still over 95% white. At least people don’t stare at black people on the streets like they used to in the 80s.
LeopoldGloom
Plus what percentage of the registered electorate that are eligible to vote are white? I’d wager it’s higher still due to some citizenship restrictions
bertie blenkinsop
“At least people don’t stare at black people on the streets like they used to in the 80s.”
Can you blame them, he was an incredibly cool man….
Quick. Both sides must put up even more posters featuring every possible ethnicity. Otherwise one team can score last minute race points against the other. More posters to block out the sun for the next week and when the referendum is over all the single use plastic posters can be set free to blow around the streets and end up in all the river and streams across the country. Who cares about the environment as long as your not seen as a racist? Go humans!!
Joe cool
some name in fairness
Joe cool
T minus very soon before simian oul wan turns up
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
I was thinking about the Rosa posters this morning. I think they’re just aimed at themselves. If the aim, which it should be, is to win over the undecided then surely they can’t think this attitude will be the way to sway them?
Have I got this arseways?
Janet, I ate my Avatar
Thought that myself
They are preaching to the converted with their use of imagery
Rob_G
ROSA seems to be mainly a mechanism to raise the Socialist Party’s profile (while at the same time being very careful not to refer to it as ‘The Socialist Party’).
Brother Barnabas
if anything, those Rosa posters/slogans are counter productive
Joe Small
Go on, tweet Rosa and ask them why they didn’t use a fit burd for their posters, I dare ya!
Janet, I ate my Avatar
Joe small likes a smaller lady
Andyourpointiswhatexactly?
As the Minions might say: Eh, no.
mildred st. meadowlark
Those guys. Stuuuuuart!
ahjayzis
Ireland is not America. We can’t just lazily adopt their culture wars.
We do need more immigrant representation in our society – in the Dáil for instance. But this kind of argument, when not made in America or similar, is just tokenism, not a redressing of historical whitewashing.
theo kretschmar schuldorff
On the radio, each time someone with a funny accent is interviewed over the 8th, they are without fail expected to confirm that they are living in Ireland and/or are Irish, citing any back-story. This to dispel any notion that they have just parachuted in to interfere with our referendum.
It would be the same with faces on posters – you’d almost have to include a subtext explaining the provenance of anyone who doesn’t look like their granny is from Mayo. Posters taking that long to read don’t get read.
theBabyStBrighidBlessedthatWentAway
Personally I think we should have a few more red-heads
And a few more talifornia style women, + a few trustafarian types, and emo or goth woman as well.
And also, perhaps both sides are sizeist too? all the women are thin.
I was going to shop a gun into the unknown foetus’s hands…
I mean, we really want wimmen to give birth to lots of James Bonds, right?
Jones
How you know that’s a white woman?? Don’t assume her gender and race!
george
Ireland is 92.4% white according to the last census with an additional 2.6% who did not specifiy. Leaves just 5% and a large portion of them cannot vote in Ireland. So the actual percentage of non-white people in Ireland is quite small. What percentage of posters should feature people of colour? There are 3 pictured here.
How come they’re all women too, where’s the equality in that?
tackling the real issues here
All of the images of fetuses that already have their eyes open and that can wave and smile and yawn and do maths all seem to be white also – a disgrace!
Cost.
No surprise. The Irish can be very racist. Remember the 27th Amendment to the Constitution? Highest yes vote ever. And that was a vote to keep Ireland white.
Strange, I thought that it was a vote to stop people taking advantage of our asylum system.
No, it was to stop Ireland becoming less white.
Your a moron
The truth is never palatable to racists.
So then you cant possibly know the truth.
Oh good, thanks for clearing that up for me.
#TheMoreYouKnow
My pleasure.
Ina, that isn’t true and you don’t know it to be true, so why peddle a lie?
Lol. That’s a new one
Because Ireland isn’t America, and doesn’t have exactly the same political problems. Non-white women make up 3.75% of Ireland’s population, as compared with 15% in America. While Black and Asian minorities in America are rightly concerned about a lack of political or social representation proportionate to their contribution to society, Ireland is a different country with different populations that lack a political voice. In terms of minorities facing lack of representation, Irish people of the left should perhaps be a tad more focused on traveler women. Three out of three women being white is pretty typical for Ireland, even Dublin.
If the campaigns were to use a non-white woman’s image, it would probably be more accurate to use a Hispanic or Asian woman’s image, based on population numbers.
Travelers are only 0.7%
Yes, I misread the totals there. My wider point stands.
Fair point.
We may be multicultural but most of our immigrants are white. I’d imagine Ireland is still over 95% white. At least people don’t stare at black people on the streets like they used to in the 80s.
Plus what percentage of the registered electorate that are eligible to vote are white? I’d wager it’s higher still due to some citizenship restrictions
“At least people don’t stare at black people on the streets like they used to in the 80s.”
Can you blame them, he was an incredibly cool man….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OcIqwmSaY
That is such a tune.
https://twitter.com/0edipussy/status/995748791704834049
There ya go, “problem” answered.
/thread
Quick. Both sides must put up even more posters featuring every possible ethnicity. Otherwise one team can score last minute race points against the other. More posters to block out the sun for the next week and when the referendum is over all the single use plastic posters can be set free to blow around the streets and end up in all the river and streams across the country. Who cares about the environment as long as your not seen as a racist? Go humans!!
some name in fairness
T minus very soon before simian oul wan turns up
I was thinking about the Rosa posters this morning. I think they’re just aimed at themselves. If the aim, which it should be, is to win over the undecided then surely they can’t think this attitude will be the way to sway them?
Have I got this arseways?
Thought that myself
They are preaching to the converted with their use of imagery
ROSA seems to be mainly a mechanism to raise the Socialist Party’s profile (while at the same time being very careful not to refer to it as ‘The Socialist Party’).
if anything, those Rosa posters/slogans are counter productive
Go on, tweet Rosa and ask them why they didn’t use a fit burd for their posters, I dare ya!
Joe small likes a smaller lady
As the Minions might say: Eh, no.
Those guys. Stuuuuuart!
Ireland is not America. We can’t just lazily adopt their culture wars.
We do need more immigrant representation in our society – in the Dáil for instance. But this kind of argument, when not made in America or similar, is just tokenism, not a redressing of historical whitewashing.
On the radio, each time someone with a funny accent is interviewed over the 8th, they are without fail expected to confirm that they are living in Ireland and/or are Irish, citing any back-story. This to dispel any notion that they have just parachuted in to interfere with our referendum.
It would be the same with faces on posters – you’d almost have to include a subtext explaining the provenance of anyone who doesn’t look like their granny is from Mayo. Posters taking that long to read don’t get read.
Personally I think we should have a few more red-heads
And a few more talifornia style women, + a few trustafarian types, and emo or goth woman as well.
And also, perhaps both sides are sizeist too? all the women are thin.
And Ageist – no v young women?
Just saying
Speaking of posters:
haha someone got there before me
https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/04/16/view-to-a-kill/?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=web&utm_content=related_posts
I was going to shop a gun into the unknown foetus’s hands…
I mean, we really want wimmen to give birth to lots of James Bonds, right?
How you know that’s a white woman?? Don’t assume her gender and race!
Ireland is 92.4% white according to the last census with an additional 2.6% who did not specifiy. Leaves just 5% and a large portion of them cannot vote in Ireland. So the actual percentage of non-white people in Ireland is quite small. What percentage of posters should feature people of colour? There are 3 pictured here.