“By Voting Yes You Will Be Paying A Great Debt To A Departed Soul”

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Savita Halappanavar’s father Andanappa Yalagi and mother Akhmedevi

“My dear brothers and sisters of Ireland, I am Savita’s unfortunate father Andanappa.

Speaking on the historic event of repeal of the 8th amendment. The day of the people of the island who now know the pain and the memory of our loving daughter Savita.

No family in future should have to undergo what we have gone through, the worry and sorrow that’s still persistent in our hearts even after some six years. The life that Savita had, she had a very long life to lead, but it was cut down mercilessly, dead.

Savita loved the people of Ireland. Lots of people say that Savita’s death hurt the entire Irish society.

I strongly feel that the younger daughters of Ireland should not have the fate of Savita.

I hope that people in Ireland will remember the fate of our daughter Savita on the day of the referendum and vote Yes so that what happened to us won’t happen to any families. And by doing this you will be paying a great debt to the departed soul. Thanking you very much.”

Andanappa Yalagi, in a video released by Together 4 Yes this morning.

Together 4 Yes

Friday: “Irish Doctors Can Always Intervene”

Previously: Savita Halappannavar on Broadsheet

107 thoughts on ““By Voting Yes You Will Be Paying A Great Debt To A Departed Soul”

  1. Dell

    An absolutely horrendous thing to happen to parents, further exasperated by a section of our society who will try to wash over why it happened so as to hang on to ideologies that don’t serve any purpose except to make those who are already suffering, suffer even more.

  2. Friscondo

    The very least the Irish people can do after our laws and health care let that poor woman down appallingly. Vote Yes.

      1. ReproBertie (SCU)

        The professor charged with conducting the investigation and producing the report said the 8th killed her and expressed surprise that 5 years later we hadn’t removed it.

      2. mildred st. meadowlark

        But she’d still be alive if they’d given her the abortion she requested when she requested it, which they could have done had the 8th not tied their hands.

        There were many failures, yes, but if 8th was primarily responsible for refusing to grant the requested abortion. She knew full well what she was asking for, and they refused. And it is one of the biggest contributing factors to her death.

        1. realPolithicks

          Well said Mildred, but I almost think its time to stop explaining this. The anti choice side know full well that Savita died as a result of the 8th, but like everything else they try to muddy the waters and confuse the issue with their nonsense.

    1. john g

      They are not Irish or live here and we are talking abortion on demand not abortion to only save a woman life from FFA which by the way I would support but not abortion on demand
      There is a vast difference
      This latest tactic to use moral and emotional blackmail will not work on many and is as low as one can go

      1. mildred st. meadowlark

        I would say seeing as thanks to our abortion laws, thanks to our healthcare system their daughter is dead they have every right to have their say.

        They may not have a vote here but their opinion is certainly worth hearing.

        1. Bob

          > I would say seeing as thanks to our abortion laws,

          I disagree.

          > thanks to our healthcare system their daughter is dead they have every right to have their say.

          I strongly agree

          > They may not have a vote here but their opinion is certainly worth hearing.

          I agree with this too.

      2. ReproBertie (SCU)

        The Love Boats entire campaign is emotional blackmail.

        The Love Boats campaign has been pushed by Americans campaigning in Ireland for weeks.

        Their daughter was killed by the 8th so it’s certainly had more impact on their lives than on yours.

      3. Lush

        John, we are not talking abortion on demand. We are talking about the repeal of a clause that will allow the government to put forward and discuss legislation to change the law
        That is all.

        1. john g

          Unrestricted terminations in the first 12 weeks and unclear laws which could change and knowing our leaders will
          That is basically abortion on demand
          NOW LAWS ARE ON THE STATUTE BOOKS JUST PROMISES
          and you expect us to trust this shower in power

          1. ReproBertie (SCU)

            I really don’t expect you to do anything other than continue your campaign of throwing anything you can think of into the discussion to try and distract from the issue.

            That and to vote No.

            Thankfully the majority are smart enough to see through your web of BS.

          2. Nigel

            This attitude of let women suffer and die because we don’t trust the government or the people is the moral equivalent of allowing the church to cover up abuse because you don’t trust the Guards. Monstrous.

          3. Lush

            You know well that the legistlation will be fully debated, and probably watered-down, before it is voted through by the Dail.
            I have no idea what axe you are grinding, but your time might be better spent readiing up on the reality of the legislative situation.

      4. SOQ

        They are not Irish or live here??????

        They lost their daughter because of this obscenity called the 8th and you see fit to comment on their race? Enough’s enough you nasty bitter old man.

      5. Nigel

        We are not talking about abortion on demand we are talking about repealing the 8th which is what killed her. Also worth noting that nobody on these comments hade name-checked her more than you, casually, inconsistently, and at least once with calculated disrespect

      6. realPolithicks

        Does anyone else think that “john g” is david’s latest nom de plume?

      7. Daisy Chainsaw

        Their daughter was killed here. Abortion on demand would have saved her but because of the heartbeat of an unviable foetus, Savita was left to rot and die. In civilised countries, when a woman is miscarrying with no chance of a live delivery, it’s hastened, via an abortion, to protect the woman from infection and prolonged suffering.

        They have more of a right than those Let them Live scammers and ICBR fetishists from the US commenting.

  3. bisted

    …well done to those who have been writing ‘Savita’ on those white crosses placed along the roads…powerful, simple comment…

  4. Sentient Won

    The law changed afterwards.

    But not enough to satisfy the blood lust of the for-profit abortion industry.

    Shameless Yes campaign is shameless.

    1. Lush

      I really have no idea who you are and what motivates you, but your posts are very special.
      I do wonder if you will still be here on the 26th.

    1. rotide

      Saying this isn’t a moral issue is sticking your head in the sand and much as any pro lifer. cop on.

    2. Daisy Chainsaw

      You’re right because there’s nothing moral about the unnecessary killing a woman because of our archaic, anti women laws.

  5. Catherine costelloe

    Yes, very dignified. I’m sick and tired of TV shows, braying hysterical mobs on both sides hyperventilating on what is a democratic vote.

  6. john g

    The anti upping every day using tragedies to kill the unborn
    I know quite a few Indians and have travelled to India
    Under the Hindu religion when you kill the unborn you not only kill the unborn foetus you kill the foetuses karma
    And Hindu’s believe in karma
    Under Indias laws abortion is only allowed if the threat of the foetus effects the mothers life.
    But reality is that because of the dowry system female babies are aborted
    And 12 million in the last three decades by abortion
    The actual reality is now in India a gender imbalance is looming because of this practice
    Mainly the more uneducated resort to abortion of girl babies
    But many educated also do so
    India in many ways is pretty unforgiving and they have a caste system
    In villages many honour killings are practiced
    You can even download mobile phone footage of a Muslim male beaten to death by the mob because he wanted to marry a Hindu girl and vice versa
    To do this gendercide their ii’s 40000 registered ultrasound clinics offering their services to determine the sex of a baby
    Its against the law in India to abort because of sex but its common practice
    Only 55 successful prosecutions according to data according to the article published 2011 on India’s gendercide
    You can Google the article from the English independent newspaper

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      Thank you john, david and mary.

      But that has absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand: abortion in Ireland. What has religion to do with healthcare? Nothing.

      This is to do with our abortion laws and a woman who was killed because of them. This is to do with her parents and family showing their support to something she clearly would have wanted had she survived.

      1. john g

        She died from sepsis in the genital tract which caused Septic shock and the pathologist said it was the worst case he had seen in his life
        The fact is that those who treated her were the cause of her death
        They denied her treatment and the delay in care was the cause which caused multi organ failure
        If I was that doctor treating savita I would of treated her without any delay, but sadly I am not a doctor
        I have read the report
        Mildred read up on it
        I base my arguments on cold facts and our constitution is sacrosanct and the protection of the unborn is as important as the protection of the living
        I will never support abortion on demand but would support abortion due to FFA or the mothers life in danger
        If women want to get an abortion on demand they are free to travel to the UK or where ever they want to terminate and they can deal with their moral issues
        We are part of the EU

        1. Frilly Waters

          John g
          ‘already said this t’ya under the newspapers

          About the Constitution
          You’ve already tampered ( your word) with the Constitution by lashing the 8th amendment on to it
          And here ya are again spewing like a outfall sewage pipe about the Constitution being Sacrosanct

          Would ya just do yerself a favour
          STFU
          Yer making a hames of this campaign as it is

        2. realPolithicks

          “the protection of the unborn is as important as the protection of the living”

          This kind of statement is why there is no point in talking to the anti choicers.

        3. Wait For It

          “If women want to get an abortion on demand they are free to travel to the UK or where ever they want to terminate and they can deal with their moral issues
          We are part of the EU”

          But soon the UK won’t be. But that’s some woman’s problem, right?

      2. john g

        Sorry Mildred India is a secular state and apparently the biggest democracy in the world
        It is neither seek or Hindu or Muslim or Christian, and even the odd jew
        Even all those faiths live there
        Also Buddhists which is not a religion but philosophy
        And the sepsis started in her genital tract which was not treated
        It was not the womb
        And this is the matter for the Irish people no one else, its our constitution
        In the past weeks we hear about outside forces trying to influence our referendum especially from the pro abortion on demand repeal mob but they are behind this
        You cannot have it both ways

        1. italia'90

          But it’s ok for all the American Taliban to interfere?
          Glad you clarified your BS!

        2. Listrade

          I was half expecting you to claim to be Hindu.

          But in all you research did you read the bit where if they’d have provided the abortion she requested on the second day she wouldn’t have got the infection?

          1. ReproBertie (SCU)

            He claims to have read the report but somehow seems to have missed the repeated references to how her death could have been prevented had she been given the abortion that she needed.

          2. Listrade

            And where the author of the report presented to the referendum committee stating the same thing. But the Wikipedia religious lesson was nice.

  7. SOQ

    The No campaign keep using loaded terms ‘hard cases’ and ‘on demand’ so here is a genuine if somewhat hypothetical question: If there was some way of separating the ‘hard cases’ from the ‘on demand’, would you agree to it being written into the constitution?

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      Just a thought – what’s wrong with ‘on demand’? if there’s no ‘demand’ for it, it won’t occur. Nevertheless it’s the phrase repeat endlessly by those opposed. Basically they are saying “who are these bitches to be demanding anything – WE, the righteous, will tell them what they can and can’t have”

    2. realPolithicks

      SOQ, the anti choicers don’t care about women having abortions, the only thing that they care about is that no abortions be performed in Ireland. Otherwise they would be campaigning to repeal the 13th and 14th amendments to prevent women from travelling to britain but you never here a peep out of them. They simply want to continue the fiction that there is “no abortion” in Ireland.

      1. Starina

        I am genuinely afraid that if this referendum doesn’t pass, it will embolded the No camp to campaign to repeal the 13th.

    3. rotide

      Isn’t that where we are at the moment SoQ, allegedly anyway?

      When they legislated for X, it was supposed to allow for the hard cases (danger to mother, rape and incest. although I don’t think FFA is covered no matter what way you spin it), it’s just the implementation is utterly terrible.

      it’s probably just as well, if the hard cases were allowed for, this referendum wouldn’t have a hope of passing and we’d be stuck with the 8th

      1. SOQ

        I posted this on the Sunday thread but once more for Jesus. *Waves tamborine* It is Friday’s context surely?

        This is Ireland – Short Documentary

        This film tells a social history of Ireland from the 1970s to 2018.

        Where we are now in 2018 comes from a long history of institutionalisation, social movements, high-profile cases and harrowing stories.

        Topics include;
        Contraception; Abortion; Mother & Baby Homes; Magdalene Laundries; Divorce; Symphysiotomy

        Stories include;
        Ann Lovett; Joanne Hayes; Miss X; Miss C; Michelle Harte; Savita Halappanavar; Miss Y…

        …unfortunately, these are not the only ones.

        Edited by; Allyn Quigley & Louise Finn

        Researched & Produced by; Aisling Malone

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB7Ifu4nl0U

    1. Sheik Yahbouti

      I often wonder whatever happened to Limbo, and what they did with the millions of babies in it. ;-/

      1. Frilly Waters

        And the money
        I remember collection plates n’boxes for all the babies in limbo

        Maybe they meant Septic Tanks

    2. ReproBertie (SCU)

      No such thing as a soul. Keep your religious mumbo jumbo out of our healthcare issue.

          1. Sentient Won

            Have you ever read a fairy tale?

            It’s all kidnapping, death, gore, murder and poisoning.

            Your false equivalence is habitual.

            You will say anything to justify your blood-lust.

            What did children ever do to you that you have such hatred in your heart for them?

            Only cowards kill children.

          2. SOQ

            Sentient Won I have been quite active on this site of recent times and have read most of what you have written. You are judgmental, rude and dismiss other people’s opinions without the slightest thought.

            Are you a cleric?

          3. mildred st. meadowlark

            He’s a horrible louse of an individual. Literally not worth the brain power of even reading the vitriolic nonsense he’s so fond of posting.

            Memes at his most abusive wasn’t as bad as Sentient.

          4. Cian

            Have you ever read a fairy tale the Bible?

            It’s all kidnapping, death, gore, murder and poisoning.

            […]

            Only cowards kill children.
            “Give them, O LORD–what will You give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” (Hosea 9:14)

            The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open. (Hosea 13:16)

            At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women. (2 Kings 15:16)

            Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. (1 Samuel 15:3)

            Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us. He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalms 137:8-9)

            On second thoughts, perhaps you shouldn’t read your bible.

          5. Sentient Won

            Mildred,

            You’re the one who is willing to kill your own children in the most vile manner possible.

            Somehow that makes you morally and intellectually superior?

            What a bizzarro world this is.

            Cian,

            What makes you this I rely on the bible for anything?

            You’re making unnecessary assumptions in order to belittle any argument that challenges you.

    3. johnny

      save your faux concern for the predatory clergy that raped,tortured,humilated and murdered all those innocent children entrusted in their care,who then have wasted what little credibility they had left, trying sweep it all under the rug-go to hell.

    4. Martco

      see that’s what I meant earlier
      there are people like @petey out there who have a definite conflict going on in their heads…probably ordinarily decent people in daily life looking out for their fellow man or woman but their regular judgement is wrongly imo influenced by dogma – this belief in a soul & that it equals something….this religious construct for them now bleeds into the decision making process for a piece if state law, something that’s SUPPOSED to be separate. in my view anyway. this referendum does indeed also really represent a vote on separation of church & state, no? I’ve nothing against people who have a faith. but I don’t want it intertwined in my state & it’s operational matters.

      so good luck to you @petey I don’t want to tell you what to do. really I don’t. I’m voting Yes. simply because it falls in line with what I think is being a decent human being is about. I have zero interest in convincing you in any way but I wish some of the No canvassers would just fupp off with the zealotry….seriously like that’s gonna make me change my mind or any undecideds lol

      a Yes vote takes another nice big lump outa the influence of religion in state matters. a very good thing.
      next up: schools & hospitals.

    5. Daisy Chainsaw

      Since the church did away with limbo, don’t the souls of the aborted go straight back to heaven?

  8. rotide

    Gotverdamme , next week cannot come soon enough. The comments here are approaching peak Journal

      1. Nigel

        The smoke and screams of the wickermen rise from the midland hills and still this awful feckin thing is not over

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      There have been plenty who want this ref over with now. It’s brought out the ugly and the crazy in most of us, despite best efforts.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          Most assuredly not, my dear Sheik. You’ve consistently been a level head in this debate, and always courteous, despite real provocation.

      1. Lush

        You have been remarkably restrained Ms M.
        I’m not there, not sure whether I’m glad or not.
        Incredibly frustrating to watch this unfolding from afar.
        And there’s another 4 days to go.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          It’s been a frustrating few weeks here too. I’m not sure which would be worse, actually. I’ll be glad when it’s over. I just hope to whatever god may or may not be listening that it passes and we have a real chance to effect change in this country. It feels long overdue.

        2. realPolithicks

          Unfortunately whatever happens on Friday it’s only going to be the start. Legislation will be required and this current dail is hardly a profile in courage, I’m guessing it’ll be very ugly.

          1. rotide

            Couldn’t agree more with this. The bigger the majority for either side will probably have a lot to do with how much or little the bill gets watered down

          2. Frilly Waters

            But @Real
            FG+ their continence suppliers; and the Shinners have the votes between them anyway to get what Bill they, the Blue Shurts and the Shinners, hatch out between them .
            The eFFers are FGs Water Bhoys now

            Btw
            D’ye see what I did there

  9. humpty dumpty

    83 women travelled to the UK for aborting downs syndrome children
    Ignore it if you want but the figures were revealed by the national health in the UK
    It was also reported in the Irish independent
    Simon Harris refused to even talk about it
    And talk about it we must for we vote for wheather we are permitting this in Ireland

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      It’s been talked about plenty in the run up to this referendum. It was covered weeks ago, in great detail.

      You’re clutching at straws.

      1. Sheik Yahbouti

        Not that I believe that statistic for a moment but, so what? It is the decision of the ptospective parents. There are thousands of couples in their seventies in this country who live in terror of what will happen to their disabled 40 -50 year old in the event of their death. What are Humpty and friends doing for these parents? Have a really good guess.

      2. SOQ

        Just like last time the strategy is to keep repeating things which have already been proven not to be true. Throw enough muck at a wall and some of it will stick etc.

        Extremely disingenuous but sure, we shouldn’t expect anything else at this stage.

        But @ broadsheet, Facebook and Google have both blocked interference from the US, something you might consider for the remainder of this week.

    2. Listrade

      We aren’t permitting it in Ireland. Disability and impairment is not within the scope of the proposed legislation.

      Whether you vote no or yes, those women will still travel to the UK.

        1. mildred st. meadowlark

          http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=8487

          It states between 10-12 weeks, which seems unworkable within the frame of proposed legislation. It would be difficult to discover you’re pregnant, be seen at the hospital for your first scan, get blood tests for down’s syndrome, and obtain an abortion within that time. It’s not impossible, of course, but it would be difficult.

          1. mildred st. meadowlark

            Yes, and even if you get blood tests done at 10 weeks it is still a 7-10 day wait for your results, so as I mention above, it’s difficult to obtain an abortion at that stage.

          2. BoB

            I started my comment before your comment was posted Mildred, the repetition was unintentional.

          3. mildred st. meadowlark

            Apologies Bob! In my zeal to explain myself I clearly went overboard :)

  10. Sheik Yahbouti

    I’m sorry to comment on this again but the Down Syndrome association have specifically pleaded not to be used as a football in this debate. Needless to say Humpty and his/her ilk have no respect for anyone’s wishes. Not all Downes Syndrome sufferers are high functioning. ie they don’t sing and dance for Ryan Tubridy and they don’t compete in the paralympics. A close personal friend has to change the nappies of his fifty year old, non verbal sibling every day, since their parents died. Does he complain? No, he does it out of love. He is now frightened of what will happen if he dies – the heaven that is called ‘State care’.
    Does he get help? Very little.
    These Loveboat people grind my gears they haven’t an iota of humanity or charity about them.

    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      It’s the burden of so many parents, spouses and siblings who care for disabled family members. It’s an agonizing prospect for many. I can’t imagine having that worry in old age.

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