42 thoughts on “De Monday Papers

  1. Martco

    John McGuirk busy making a total botty of himself again.

    I hope he gets as much airtime as he can handle this week, will ensure an easy Yes win.

    1. SOQ

      Press reader doesn’t seem to be loading for a lot of people but it is not on the website?

  2. Sheik Yahbouti

    The more I think of the sheer, cold calculation and the utter callousness of the FG hack the madder I become. Offer a dieing woman a big, juicy carrot – I.e. fast tracked, no fault settlement of her legal action, in exchange for covering the arses of FG, and Emma had the courage to refuse it! What a fantastic woman – firstly to refuse, secondly to publicize the facts. We are in her debt.

    1. realPolithicks

      Its absolutely disgusting and now they’re trying to claim it was some low level guy who took it upon himself to make the offer. Don’t believe a word of it, its the very kind of thing this government would do.

  3. Tom Conroy

    What is the (legal or otherwise) position on people wearing badges or jumpers showing their support for one position or another at work?….

    Last Thursday a woman was sent home from work because she was wearing a Repeal sweater. The company then sent a memo to all staff saying that no symbols should be worn & (disturbingly for me) no discussion whatsoever should be had about the issue in the workplace.

    More details on request

    1. rotide

      Was the woman client facing? Was she sent home to get a change of jumper or just sent home

    2. Robert

      Yeah that’s fair enough. The workplace is no place for contentious political issues, regardless of your stance.

    3. mildred st. meadowlark

      I think fair enough with regard to the repeal jumpers, No badges etc but no discussion of the subject? They don’t get to decide what you speak about. That’s a bit far. They are your employers not your keepers.

      1. Robert

        I don’t think this is necessarily an employer-imposed rule, more a matter of etiquette. You have to work with your colleagues next week regardless of the result and fiery disagreements rarely make for a happy workplace. Better to just avoid IMHO.

  4. anne

    Kidnapper produced a knife & Garda shoots him dead in the head…might as well have shot the girl. They haven’t a hope of finding her now.

    Fupping idiots.

      1. martco

        I know speculation, wait lets hear the whole story & the armed response unit have a good reputation etc. @Repro but the fella was armed with a stanley knife. a stanley knife. now unless he somehow had one of the detectives in a headlock & was was about to cut him open this was a very large unfortunate outcome

        1. martco

          sure the regular lads in England take down drunken loopers every weekend with Tazers ffs

        2. Repro-choice Bertie

          Repeated studies with LEOs in the US have shown that the minimum safe distance for an officer with a holstered weapon facing an assailant armed with a knife, even a concealed knife, is 21 feet. We, as yet, have no idea what the circumstances leading up to the shooting were. Obviously this was far from an ideal outcome but real life is not like TV.

    1. ZeligIsJaded

      You can almost hear the collective refrain “why didn’t he just shoot him in the leg?”

    2. Harry Molloy

      Armed Response Unit have been around for a good few years now and have made a lot of gangland arrests, some thwarting attempted assassination attempts.

      They are very Nell trained and have no reputation for being trigger happy and I doubt that was the case here. So best not make any such assumptions.

      1. postmanpat

        I think its safe to assume they’re trigger happy when they shoot a guy armed only with a knife, clowns.

        1. Repro-choice Bertie

          Even this question makes a bunch of assumptions about what happened but do you think they should just have let him stab them?

          1. postmanpat

            Sorry, you’re absolutely right, I forget a knife can be mistaken for a gun especially if you’re scared. All the police training in the world cant help of your a coward, like all bullies are, deep down. Its not like the victim had any important information the police could have used anyway.

          2. Repro-choice Bertie

            You reckon the detectives who had been searching for this man specifically to ask him about Jastine decided to ignore the reason they were searching for him and just shot him for the craic?

          3. Brother Barnabas

            bertie, you’re completely forgetting the unique insight that reading about things online gives

            actually being physically present when something happens is overrated as a source of actual facts

      2. Brother Barnabas

        sorry, harry, but are you seriously suggesting the armed response unit might know more about how to deal with these situations than resident know-it-all anne?

    3. Nigel

      Until further information emerges I’m going to assume the bulk of the blame lies with the kidnapper who pulled a knife on an armed Guard. This isn’t America. Whatever their faults our police don’t have a rep for being trigger happy.

    4. dav

      IMHO, they aimed for the arm, hit it and I’d say the 2nd shot hit the same area, unfortunately the man was probably falling from the 1st shot and his head took the bullet that was intended for his head.

      1. Harry Molloy

        The reason law enforcement generally don’t aim for limbs is that the bullet can ricochet and go anywhere, often doing pinball inside the body. The target may do better by taking a direct torso hit.

  5. Banm

    No mention of the ARU being the shooter. Local detectives. Some papers reporting ‘five shots’ as he threatened to kill himself

  6. martco

    anyone know what the deal with Tazers are in this country?
    why doesn’t every Guard carry one??

    1. anne

      Coz they’d be going around tazzering every granny that looked at them the wrong way, probably.

    2. Topsy

      God help the general public if gardai were allowed carry tazers. We have seen the incompetence, lies, lies and more lies from all levels of our national police force over the last number of years. Tazers – never.

  7. Catherine costelloe

    If a detective had died at the scene , we would all be asking ‘Why didn’t he shoot the feicer?’.
    None of like murdered garda despite inadequacy in the force.

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