But Top Of The List Would Be The Matter Of You Kicking Me Up The Arse

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Bishop of Elphin Kevin Doran

“What I’d say to a Catholic who voted Yes is this, if you voted Yes knowing and intending that abortion would be the outcome then you should consider coming to confession…

…Ultimately all sin, and sin is not just related to this area, but all sin is about decisions that impact on our relationship with God.”

Catholics who voted Yes should consider confession, says Bishop (irish Times)

Rollingnews

131 thoughts on “But Top Of The List Would Be The Matter Of You Kicking Me Up The Arse

    1. realPolithicks

      I actually laughed out loud at this one. These guys are like the proverbial chicken with its head cut off, they are dead but haven’t realized it yet.

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        1. PlumBobSmearPants

          Indeed. They’ll refocus, head south and leech off another developing nation. Invest hard in schools and hospitals and insidiously infect the hearts and minds of a male able population. One looking to drag themselves out of some form or oppression or rebuild after a civil war. They’ll buy their way in and leave a trail of devastation in their wake. It’ll take them generations to realise what happened and generations more to do something about it. It’s what they’ve done for centuries and once the flock is many, they won’t care where they come from. They’re a busted flush up here.

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          1. SOQ

            Bodger, why was my comment from last night deleted? All I did was question why someone who voted Yes would need to go to confession.

            According to Catholic rules, procuring or having an abortion is a sin but there is no mention of voting to give others the right to make their own decisions. Otherwise, why didn’t the good bishop not come out and say that before the referendum?

            He appears to be a bit of a loose cannon anyways.

  1. Frilly Keane

    I’m not a sinner
    so tis all the one t’me

    but if anyone want absolution
    I’ll put together some Latin from my school days for ye

    So tell me your sins

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      1. Frilly Keane

        Meh
        I dunno
        Tisn’t me tbh

        But I’ll leave it for the moment

        Temporary Installation
        Kinda

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    1. Gabby

      Frilly, I just googled and here’s some Latin for you to use when penitents visit you:
      “Vade, et jam amplius noli peccare.” [google for translation.]

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  2. postmanpat

    Cant fault him. Internal logic checks out. Cue Catholic guilt and long game social engineering. Church always has a 4D chess back up plan.

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    1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

      except no one is swallowing the sin anymore
      if you do believe in God I would hope it’s a more loving kind

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  3. Hank

    Church who facilitated the rape of countless children should consider finally fupping off, says Irish public..

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    1. samwise_gangee

      says you, but you should probably not take liberties in speaking for others.

      The power gauntlet has moved on…that is, if you are concerned about power.

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  4. Odockatee

    “Catholics who did not heed our moral guidance should now heed our moral guidance and seek redemption from the people whose moral guidance they ignored”

    God bless

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  5. Friscondo

    Be fair, they’ve backed down from the nuclear option of excommunication. A week or so from now, a quick decade of the rosary said at home will expunge the Yes sin.

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    1. newsjustin

      My understanding is that procuring or facilitating an abortion means a Catholic has excommunicated themselves. Until recently only bishops (I think) could lift the excommunication. Pope Francis temporarily gave that facility to all priests for the Year of Mercy and I think it’s still in place. So a good confession will sort out a repentant Yes voter.

      I suspect there may be more repentant Yes voters in years to come, as the stats mount up, as happened in Britain.

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          1. scottser

            yeah, it’s a bit like pointing out the fat kid guzzling smarties sometimes but still, religious nutters are always good for a laff. doesn’t have to be your lot either, the DUP are great as well..

          2. newsjustin

            “The only person “obsessed” with this topic is you.”

            I know that I’m interested in the topic. But I don’t publish anything. You’re the one who claims nobody cares….but here we both are.

          3. realPolithicks

            “I know that I’m interested in the topic. But I don’t publish anything. You’re the one who claims nobody cares….but here we both are.”

            “Interested” as I post this comment there are 58 comments on this thread, you’ve contributed 14 of then, obsessed is the word I’d use for your contributions.

      1. IdiotsKnowWhatIdiotsDo

        You absolute potatoe. Stats mounting up will just show how we have be outsourcing OUR problem and that we should have be dealing with these cases at home since 1983.
        Muppet.

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      2. Cu Cullan

        Why would you think that..? Take Tuam for instance, how many actual babies were left to starve to death and then dumped in a sceptic tank. How many RCs are even remotely interested or feel anything at all about it..

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  6. newsjustin

    Yep. Every Yes vote supports every abortion. Facilitating an abortion is a grave sin for Catholics. It is appropriate for the Bishop to remind Catholics (everyone else can happily ignore it) that sins can and should be confessed.

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    1. mildred st. meadowlark

      And for the priest who buggered my godfather for 5 years, what about him?

      What sort of punishment does he deserve?

      Let he without sin and all that, and as far as I can see the Catholic Church are the last folks to be casting judgement.

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      1. newsjustin

        Jail (and treatment to reduce the risk of reoffending).

        He’s also (of course) committed a foul and vile sin against your godfather and, without God’s mercy, will go to hell for all eternity.

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    2. Starina

      oh aye it’s to be expected. But it doesn’t deserve media coverage except maybe as a “and finally” comedy story.

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    3. Frilly Keane

      Yeah
      But ya see
      Even though most of the Catholics are dying off
      Those ye do get inta Mass
      Are still getting the same show
      ye’re still at the fear and scare and ye are all sinners going to hell
      So give us your money to ask God
      Or whoever
      To be nice and forgiving etc
      Seriously,
      Can ye not shake it up a bit

      Like a bitta Tap Dancing
      Or a Cookery demonstration
      Or Flower arranging
      Stuff like that

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      1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

        are you trying to rob the real tenants of the Prods, flower arranging, baking, choirs and coffee mornings ( lots of cream) ?

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        1. Frilly Keane

          Is that what they’re at Janie

          Ok, so as not to mimic the left footers

          How about
          Line dancing, Bingo, Karaoke
          That last one would be great for the hymns TBF like

          Any good?

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          1. Brother Barnabas

            if you want to draw in the cool kids, you’ll need something like karate or video games

            and a bit of sex never hurt

          2. Janet, I ate my Avatar

            used to always offer to “wash up ” after as a kid
            straight down the sink any extra glasses..no messing, oh yes

  7. Lush

    I was wondering if there would be a post on this. I’m from a Church of Ireland background, so maybe look at it from a remove. But I am still amazed that anyone can say this or believe it. Where in the Bible is confession and absolution via a priest alluded to?
    If you believe in the Christian version of God, your ‘sins’ are between you and him; the priest’s involvement is just another method of keeping tabs, and sway, over the faithful.

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    1. TheQ47

      Now, I’m no theologian, but:

      John 20:23

      If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

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  8. Just Sayin

    Yes, but isn’t he correct, If you are a Catholic and want to partake of the sacraments, don’t you have to play by their rules?

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    1. Daisy Chainsaw

      The catholic heirarchy and clergy don’t play by their rules. I suppose they’re leading by example!!

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  9. Bs

    Ill be emailing the archbishop of Dublin this week to confess my mortal sin of knowing a woman who had a termination and not stopping it. I will request that he does the only thing he can do and excommunicate me from the rcc.

    On a side note, I’ll be having an excommunication party this summer, all welcome, bring cans

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    1. newsjustin

      Just to be clear, you know excommunication doesn’t mean getting kicked out, yeah? It doesn’t undo your baptism.

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      1. realPolithicks

        Just to be clear, people like me who were indoctrinated into the rcc cult as children but have as adults seen through the hypocrisy that lies at the heart of it don’t give a fupp about “excommunication” or “baptism” or any of the other rituals of this failed cult. So whether you try to pretend that people like me are catholic just so you can make up the numbers doesn’t alter the facts.

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        1. newsjustin

          Why would I want to do that? You’re not a Catholic. I assume you told the last census that.
          Whatever sacraments you received in the past are between you and the church – and maybe your parents. I don’t see your problem here.

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          1. Inquistor

            The problem is they still report you as a loyal member of their flock to the Vatican. They still claim you as a Catholic even though you may say you are no longer a member. Maybe they are even receiving funding based on your membership even though you want nothing more to do with them. They don’t provide a way to leave and reason being if they did people would be leaving in tens of thousands in this country alone.

          2. newsjustin

            “Maybe they are even receiving funding based on your membership.”

            Are they?

          3. realPolithicks

            You know exactly what the problem is, you simply refuse to acknowledge it.

          4. Inquistor

            @newsjustin I don’t know but it wouldn’t surprise me. In any case there is a problem if they are reporting you as a Catholic and you aren’t. Isn’t lying a sin? Or else are they saying you can’t leave?

      2. Cu Cullan

        The church has been hijacked by a bunch of nasty, small minded, pure evil unchristian fuppers. Of all the commandments there are but two – honour your god, and to thine own self be true. Rather than smashing statues we are just letting them wither on the vine of life..

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      3. Bs

        Just to be clear, I don’t care! I’ve already taken care of that in so far as I can. If th church has these “laws” on their books then I think they should be compelled to use them

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      4. SOQ

        Just to be clear, newsjustin is not a Catholic and it is mere coincidence that it appears to be his specialist subject.

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          1. SOQ

            Actually no, you have maintained on the abortion debate that you were not.

            Now it is too nice a day to be sitting here digging up your previous posts and more importantly, this friggen grass won’t cut itself.

          2. Brother Barnabas

            in the interests of fairness, i asked him directly a couple of weeks ago- and he confirmed in response that he is

            I’d obviously have issues with newsjustin’s beliefs, but not with his integrity or genuineness

            i see him as a victim who has been cruelly abused and exploited, who wanders now lost and forlorn in a treacherous land. hopefully one day he can find salvation.

          3. newsjustin

            “Actually no, you have maintained on the abortion debate that you were not.”

            You’re 100% wrong SOQ. I have never, nor would I ever deny that I’m a Catholic. You won’t dig out proof of that because you can’t.

            I’ve said before that I don’t use religious arguments against abortion because a) there are so many humanust and scienfific arguments against it and b) people have a range of religions and none.

  10. Not On Your Nelly

    You joined a mental club, that mental club has mental rules. Mental? Mental.

    Gays, abortion, women. It’s not for them.

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  11. SOQ

    OK sure I’ll give it a go.

    *Walks into Confessional*
    ME: Howaya Brigid
    Priest: Don’t call me that when I’m working.
    ME: Oh! Get her…..
    ME: Anyways, Bless me Father for I have sinned, It’s 44 years since my last confession
    *Gets list out. Starts at top of page one of 74*

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    1. newsjustin

      Tongue in cheek I know but, the thing is, if you do that, no matter if it’s 744 pages, you’ll be forgiven.

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      1. Brother Barnabas

        would it be a sin to refer to a bishop as a hateful, loathsome cn ut on an online comment forum?

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      2. Bs

        Why do you feel the need to be “forgiven” by an organisation who clearly only give a fupp about themselves?

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          1. yep

            So can I be forgiven by God through prayer? If i said prayers specifically for sins I felt I had committed would I not need any interaction wit the Church?

          2. Janet, I ate my Avatar

            That organisation should be begging for forgiveness from the Irish people not not the other way around…begging on the knees they love to see others on.

  12. Brianwalshpictures

    It’s good to know we don’t have to resist the church any more. Eejits like the bishop above are helping them on their way to self-implosion.

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  13. ollie

    but i voted yes. will it change anything if I sit in a dark box with a priest and say sorry? He has to forgive me, then my soul will be guaranteed entry to Heaven.

    on a serious note an unborn child cannot be baptised according to the rules of the Catholic church and a still born baby can’t be baptised either, therefore the Catholic Church has absolute contempt for religious couples who lose a child during pregnancy.
    unfuppinbelievable.

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    1. Bs

      Life begins at contraception. An abortion at any stage is murdering a fully formed baby.

      No we won’t baptise your stillborn baby cause it’s not a baby for some reason that we haven’t had time to make up yet.

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      1. Cu Cullan

        What about the babies they starved to death in Tuam and every other ‘home’.. at what point did they have a soul..? If only we had a Roman Catholic fupper to ask.. oh, where could we find one..!!

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  14. Inquistor

    The RCC is an evil institution, and I don’t use that word lightly. They have not only facilitated the rape and abuse of children but covered up these crimes as they see their moral judgement as higher than us lowly sinners with our inconvenient and irrelevant courts of law. That they are still maintaining moral superiority on any matter, let alone this, is laughable.

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  15. bisted

    …I’ve just checked with the hierarchy and all you sinners are welcome in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster – bless her noodley appendages…

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    1. DeKloot

      Pastafarianim is the one true church…. On yer knees folks and pray;

      Our pasta, who art in a colander, draining be your noodles.
      Thy noodle come, Thy sauce be yum, on top some grated Parmesan.
      Give us this day, our garlic bread, …and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trample on our lawns. And lead us not into vegetarianism, but deliver us some pizza, for thine is the meatball, the noodle, and the sauce, forever and ever.

      R’amen.

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      1. Janet, I ate my Avatar

        126, 500 in Southern Ireland actually
        couldn’t resist I have an OCD for facts my Topsy troll

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  16. Nigel

    Apropos of the subject of this one, the ad on my mobile features a psychedelic Jesus worrying about his CAO.

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    1. Not On Your Nelly

      You need to go outside again, for a bit. Your replying to all comments is reminding me of that guy who went proper cuckoo in the comments when the papers were posted. I miss him/her (him). That was almost art.

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  17. Gabby

    Sex and Relationships Education in England is under consultation. I am glad to see that the Church of England is offering sensible suggestions about what teachers could be teaching to young teenagers. Among other matters, teachers should advise school students that ‘abstinence and celibacy are positive options’. I think C of E experts should urgently be sent to advise our Department of Education about this sort of thing. It is time to be sensible, is it not? It is more edifying than rolling condoms onto bananas and other gimmickry.
    https://www.indy100.com/article/church-of-england-schools-teach-abstinence-and-celibacy-sex-experts-education-sre-8255876

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    1. Stan

      The beard would suggest he has been playing close attention to the subsequent career of Father Noel Furlong

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  18. Johnny Keenan

    Bishop of Elphin Kevin Doran

    “What I’d say to a Catholic who voted Yes is this, if you voted Yes knowing and intending that abortion would be the outcome then you should consider coming to confession…

    …Ultimately all sin, and sin is not just related to this area, but all sin is about decisions that impact on our relationship with God.”

    What the feck has it got to do with you then Fader

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    1. newsjustin

      Teaching the Catholic faith and recommending/providing the sacraments to Catholics is like 110% of what he does. The wilful misunderstanding of this is remarkable. If you’re not a Catholic and/or not interested, you need not even listen.

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      1. Dinny Do Well?

        “Teaching the Catholic faith and recommending/providing the sacraments to Catholics is like 110% of what he does.”

        If only that was what they did…. but no….

        List of things the Catholic Church has opposed in Ireland

        1944 – Tampons (may arouse women)

        1950 – Mother & Child Scheme

        1970 – Studying at Trinity College

        1973 – Married women in the Civil Service

        1985 – Contraception

        1986 – Divorce

        1993 – Decriminalisation of homosexuality

        1996 – Divorce

        2005 – Ferns report into child abuse

        2010 – Civili Partnerships

        2013 – Abortions if mother’s life was at risk

        2015 – Equal Marriage

        2018 – Abortion

        Not to mention ruining our chances of ever having an NHS…

        (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/7ucln0/list_of_things_the_catholic_church_has_opposed_in/)

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          1. Frilly Keane

            Last time I gave that Yoga a go
            I fell asleep
            And snored like a diesel ferry coming in ta’ dock in high winds

    1. Frilly Keane

      That’s the job

      I’ll start prepping for a audition now so
      Bless you Dinny
      How long is it since your last confession

      An’ tell us your sins there Dinny

      Make ’em good uns now

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  19. samwise_gangee

    ahem, BroadSheeple.ie…I’m seeing the same sort of mindset that gave power to the church in the first place. This place needs some trolls to lighten the place up a bit.

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    1. Nigel

      What the opportunistic conversion of a Roman emperor to an obscure monotheistic religion fom a troublesome corner of a declining empire?

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  20. Catherine costelloe

    There isn’t much said about parents forcing their daughters to have their babies in mother and baby homes. It was grandparents approaching the church for help, “what will the neighbours think” type of attitude .Had they given a flying fig the welfare of the unwanted baby would not have ended up in a septic tank.
    As for our politicians, it’s not that long ago that they allowed the file of Fr Brendan Smyth gather dust in DPP’s office for over 3 years in Dublin when police in Northern Ireland had warrants for his arrest.

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  21. Frilly Keane

    Naw’ful shame ABM didn’t live ta’ see the day
    All the same
    Int’it

    Yeah I know
    He told me where I going
    Manys a time in fact
    So I’m well warned

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