Cardiff: ECB boss Trichet said save your banks he did not say guarantee your banks #bankinginquiry — David Murphy (@davidmurphyRTE) June 18, 2015
In addition, RTÉ reports:
“Mr Cardiff said several people, including Sean FitzPatrick, Dermot Desmond, and Charlie McCreevy, suggested the introduction of a guarantee some months beforehand. At the end of April 2008, Mr FitzPatrick, then Anglo chairman, suggested some form of guarantee to John Hurley. Around a week later, an individual noted as DD also suggested a broad guarantee. He could not recall whom.”
Ireland’s European Auditor Kevin Cardiff, former Secretary General at the Department of Finance during the financial crisis and the mislaid €3.6 billion crisis at government buildings, Merrion Street, Dublin today.
[Former Secretary General of the Department of Finance, and current member of the European Court of Auditors, Kevin Cardiff]
This morning, RTÉ’s Today with Seán O’Rourke show discussed further the sentencing of two former Anglo Irish Bank executives Willie McAteer and Pat Whelan.
On the show was Dearbhail McDonald, associate and legal editor at the Irish Independent, Finbarr McCauley, Professor of European Criminal Justice at UCD and Pat Leahy, political editor of the Sunday Business Post.
During their discussion, Ms McDonald brought up something Kevin Cardiff said during cross examination in the absence of the jury.
Dearbhail McDonald: “You know what, there wasn’t much politics in the Anglo trial but there was a little sliver and it was very, very revealing. And that was when Kevin Cardiff, who’s a former Secretary General of the Department of Finance was brought in briefly and we were very, very excited because we thought, at least we’re going to get an insight into the Government’s thinking at the time and we didn’t. He was there for less than 22 minutes. But under cross examination, in the absence of the jury, he was asked about a statement he had made. At an earlier stage, before the trial, he was one of a number of witnesses who gave evidence at a deposition and he was cross examined by Michael O’Higgins, senior counsel, who was representing Seán FitzPatrick who, as we know, was acquitted on all counts. And he was asked, you know: ‘Well what was your role?’. And he confirmed that the Government felt, certainly in respect of the attempts to unwind Seán Quinn’s stake in Anglo, that they were bystanders in a car crash.
And I think my heart sank, you know, at that point in time. Now we didn’t because we can’t legally report what happened in the depositions but he did reveal that much. You know. And I remember thinking ‘oh my god, well if this is going to be the height of it’, you know, in an inquiry, where they’re kind of saying ‘you know, well look, it wasn’t us, you know, there was nothing really that we could have done’.
And I wonder, like I mean I, earlier I was thinking, just reflecting on the Anglo trial. I think the saddest thing about it is is that that public are so tired, they’re so overburdened and perhaps they don’t really care. And what Pat [Leahy] has talked about, about the corrosiveness of public trust, you know, I think the saddest, the most dangerous thing is that we’ve come to expect that nothing really happens. There were some you know shining lights in the Anglo trial, not least that we did get a trial, we did get convictions. And, also, the only winners are the, the only people to emerge with their reputation intact is the jury system.”
Last night, during a Dáil debate on a recent EU summit, Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin gave a speech in which he took issue with Fine Gael leader and Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s reaction to the Anglo Tapes story.
Speaking in the Dáil, Mr Martin said:
“The Taoiseach has repeatedly said he knows nothing about what happened when the Bank Guarantee was brought in. He says he would “love to know” what happened. If we put aside the lengthy statements and interviews, including in this House, this claim of the Taoiseach’s is transparent, partisan nonsense.”
“For two and a half years he and his ministers have been in full control of government. They have had absolute access to the many records of events, particularly those contained in all of the documents retained in the Department of Finance. More importantly they have had access to the officials who were present at all stages of the Guarantee process.
Minister Noonan has actually refused to release some information under FOI so Taoiseach you cannot have it both ways.”
“In the Taoiseach’s case, for an entire year he had at his side the most senior official present during that night. Is the Taoiseach expecting us to believe he never asked him any question about the meetings he attended?”
“The next most senior official who was in the room that night also worked closely with this government for well over a year.
He regularly attended the Economic Management Council with the Taoiseach, Tánaiste, Minister Noonan and Minister Howlin at which bank-related debts were discussed. Did you ask him no questions during that time?”
The Irish Independent,today reports that the Government may sell Irish Life to the owner of Canada Life Insurance, Great West Lifeco, “within months”.
You may recall a previously planned sale to Great West Lifeco, which bid €1.1billion for Irish Life, was called off in November 2011.
The collapse in talks was largely blamed on market volatility in the eurozone at the time.
But of course potential buyers had raised concerns surrounding the implications of any investigation into Irish Life’s role in the €7.2billion ‘window dressing’ loans between Irish Life Permanent and Anglo Irish Bank.
Loans which, it is understood, were approved by the former secretary general at the Department of Finance Kevin Cardiff (above), who is now working at the European Court of Auditors.
So presumably the purchasers are satisfied there will be no legal action arising out of these loans. And Kevin can go back to his waffles in peace.
1) A number of senior and mid-ranking officials at the Department of Finance?
2) The person whose job it was to spot these errors?
TWO OFFICIAL reports on the €3.6 billion discrepancy in the Government’s debt figures have concluded there was duplication of effort between agencies, failures in communications and reporting, as well as lack of resources for key statistical work.
An internal Government report prepared for the Department of Finance and an external review carried out by consultants Deloitte and Touche have both concluded the responsibility for compiling the statistics should rest with one agency, the Central Statistics Office, rather than it being shared with the Department of Finance.
Lest we forget…
The secretary general of the department when the accounting error occurred, Kevin Cardiff, was rejected for the post of European Court of Auditors by a budgetary committee of the European Parliament by one vote in November last year. The European Parliament later overturned the recommendation by the budget committee to nominate Mr Cardiff to the post which carries a salary of €276,000 per year.
The former General Secretary at the Department of Finance, who oversaw the September 2008 bank guarantee and a (still unexplained) €3.6 billion accounting error in the State’s books, before being parachuted into a €276,000-a-year job in the European Court of Auditors, has given an irony-soaked interview with an in-house EU journal.
On watching out for risks: “I think there has to be a careful balancing of the work priorities to make sure that we address the areas of risk and interest for Europe. By interest I mean Europe’s policy interests not just those things that are interesting in a gossip sense.”
On Renaissance Italy: “…the Court (of Auditors) stands as an institution itself, so it is not a question of whether it becomes like the Guelphs and the Ghibellines in Renaissance Italy, attaching itself to one party or another.
On performance audits: “…I have been very impressed by some of the performance audits. I also think we need to focus the performance audit on the outcomes of European effort, not just on the systems and procedures but also on their effectiveness. Of course, there are limits to what an auditor should do, but to be able to really add value one has to be able to say what could change, what could be different, not only to allow all systems to be more efficient, but also to allow programmes to be more effective.”
On Ireland’s financial woes: “…Ireland is a country in a sort of transition. We have had a very deep recession and at this stage we have already had several years of economic adjustment. The adjustments occur at a cost for the citizens. The fiscal adjustment is essential but it is very painful.” “…the bond yields have fallen very significantly. In the perception of the markets, Ireland has appeared to create an identity of its own and there is a real potential there for Ireland
to access market funding in its own right and not rely purely on the EU and IMF programme support. Indeed, Ireland recently made a small fund-raising in the market, short-term money, but nonetheless it was a very good first step.”
A shout-out to the little guys back in Ireland: “..there is a rebalancing of economists’ and markets’ opinion about Ireland, which is a result of concerted and determined efforts over a long period of time. But those efforts are at the cost of taxpayers and citizens who have to manage with fewer services or manage with less pay or higher taxes.”
On the possibility that he could be working on the European Stability Mechanism (ESM): “..That is a very interesting development because the new ESM will have its own particular character and structure and it must be properly audited. We should, as I said earlier, be available as a resource for European efforts, and this is one of the ways in which we are available to assist.”
On ‘naming and shaming’ those who break the EU rules: “..Our focus has to be to give a fair and balanced opinion based on the information we have, and to give it in a way that provides the stakeholders with the information they need to decide whether to be reassured or whether intervention or change is necessary. We are neither journalists nor prosecutors. This is an audit institution and it needs to focus on its own objectives. If that sometimes means providing information that includes the names of countries or institutions,, why not, but it is not about providing a particular story, it is about providing the informational base for decisions. As long as we stick to that priority, we get the balance right.”
From The public accounts committee meeting on the “Debt Discrepancy In The National Accounts”, November 3, 2011.
Shane Ross: “I will ask just a final question before I depart. Mr. Cardiff is due to head for the European Court of Auditors shortly.”
Kevin Cardiff: “Yes.”
Ross: “Will Mr. Cardiff assure the committee that he will see this matter sorted before he departs? As he stated, it is his responsibility.”
Cardiff: “Yes. Accounting Officers must take responsibility for issues such as this and see them through. It was to allow this to happen that I stated that I would hope to have the external report on this by the end of the year.”
Ross: “Mr. Cardiff will not depart until this matter has been resolved satisfactorily.”
Cardiff: “My departure is not entirely in my own hands, but I will press hard—–”
Ross: “Mr. Cardiff cannot depart without his own consent.”
Cardiff: I am not sure about how true that is.”
Ross: “Does Mr. Cardiff have something to tell us?”
Cardiff: “No. In a technical legal sense, I am not sure that the Deputy is 100% correct. I will try hard to get this done before I go. Sometimes, a fresh pair of eyes can see things that the existing person cannot.”
Ross: “Mr. Cardiff has responsibility. He is one of the two principal players. It would be wrong if he left the Department of Finance in a shambles, where its systems were not satisfactory and where something such as this could recur. It happened on his watch and he should not go to Europe until this committee, the Department and the Minister are satisfied that this problem has been resolved. Will Mr. Cardiff give us that guarantee?”
Cardiff: “No, I will not.”
Ross: “Mr. Cardiff will just float off and leave the problem here…”