An Abomination Unto The Lord?

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Calerz writes:

I was in Carraroe in Galway yesterday and one American (from Georgia to be precise) was at the bar was ordering black velvets – a mixture of Guinness and Bulmers. What you think?

50 thoughts on “An Abomination Unto The Lord?

    1. Am i still On this Island

      +1 David served on a martini glass too when done! That is also an abomination

    1. Reppy

      Snakebite is usually lager and cider with blackcurrant thrown in… Makes some people go batshit crazy

    2. Odis

      Snake bite I used to drink in England was a cider and pernod. Sounds vile, I know, but was actually quite pleasant.

      1. CousinJack

        cider and pernod is a ‘witch’, normally a red witch with blackcurrant cordial
        ‘snakebite’ is cider and lager, usually with black current cordial
        ‘black velvet’, as already stated, is champagne and guiness
        Another English drink is a ‘black and tan’ half of guiness half of bitter

        Now remember red witch will make you very drunk, and the next day very sick

        1. Humans eh!

          Ah the ‘red witch’
          “For the night is dark and full of terrors”

          As well as the jax.

  1. Medium Sized C

    Snakebite and black velvet are two drinks that could conceivably have anything in them but everyone thinks they know exactly what is in them.

  2. Davey T

    Leads to a fine balance between the full on loaded and ready to drop Guinness shite and the more viscous Bulmers excretion

  3. Murtles

    Ahhh the Yanks, they come over here and pretend they can drink and then start this Mickey Mouse and Donald Duckery. Reminds me of an incident in the not too distant past where I witnessed another Yank ask for a Bulmers Shandy (he wanted Cidona poured into a Bulmers). I was so shocked I nearly dropped my monocle into my Martini.

    1. Delacaravanio

      Not a bad idea, when you think about it. They are both made in the same place, from the same stuff.

  4. chicken

    Yes its not really a new thing, seen it the Irish bars here, but they just mix Guiness & cider. Snakebite is also pretty awaful to look at, as the lager & cider dont mix well so you end up with a curdled effect if you dont drink it fast. Also not to forget the black & tan (Guiness with Lager). Never tried any of them, but it does amaze me that people will drink any muck to get drunk fast……………

    1. ivan

      The auld fella used to drink a Black and Tan as well, although I think the correct version was half Smithwicks and half Guinness, and ideally out of bottles.

  5. Tucker Done

    My dad used to call this a poor man’s velvet. One’s head would be blown off after a few

    1. chris

      I remember my dad calling it a working man’s black velvet. It was well before bulmers- Stag was the cider of the time.

  6. Sinabhfuil

    Yeah, used to drink these back in the 1970s in McDaid’s. Very refreshing. Or so I thought at the time. But I’d only just graduated from red lemonade. The sophisticated days of Chilean chardonnay were yet ahead of me.

  7. Bingo Slimz

    My absolute low point when I was working in a snooty bar in the UK was an extremely posh man asking me for “half a Guinness shandy”. As in, he wanted me to serve him a half-pint glass, half filled with lemonade and topped with Guinness.

    I don’t think I’ve ever recovered from the sheer disappointment of the experience. The man thought he was GREAT also.

    1. H

      My sympathies, that sounds like a truly awful experience, I think I may have had to just hand in my notice and walk out rather than serve than genuine abomination.

  8. Sidewinder

    Every drink described in these comments makes me want to puke a little. Ow just to get it over with early.

  9. Ronan

    In my first bar job, there was a regular who would pop in for lunch and have a guinness shandy with it. I looked him like it was a windup, and he explained that it would be with red lemonade, and I’d have to take the fizz out.

    So I half filled a pint glass with red lemonade, got another empty one, and threw the lemonade between them for a minute until it flattened out, then I poured in the guinness and other than being slightly see through it looked ok.

    Intrigued, after a few weeks I decided I had to try one and it was suprisingly deli….. no wait, it was awful. What a tool.

    I’d rather a non-alcoholic beer than a shandy to be honest

  10. Big Phil

    This is known as a poor man’s black velvet and I’ve seen Irish people drinking it for decades.
    And it’s pretty nice too!

  11. Franno

    Back in my dark days of pulling pints in France we were commonly asked for a Russian Stout- A bottle of Smirnoff Ice in a pint glass topped up with Guinness. A Cherry Guinness was also popular, Kriek lambic topped up with a Guinness. The French- great at avant-garde cinema and smoking insouciantly, a bit rubbish at pints.

  12. Tom Stewart

    What’s with American’s and ordering these bloody things? When I worked in a bar years ago, one of them asked me for a Black and Tan. I should have told him how insensitive the title was, but I was about 18, so I doubt I did.

    When you’re in another country, would you not just sample the local food and drink?

    I don’t go to France and ask for a pastry that’s half croissant and half pain-aux-raisins.

    Bizarre behaviour.

  13. Squarehead

    I did a night on snakebite a few years ago and I can confirm it does drive one batshit crazy. there were two brothers in the group, by 2am one had the other pinned to the wall threatening to kill him. Good times

  14. P. Berry

    Black Velvet (Guinness and Cider) is a popular drink in the Irish Bars here in Canada. Never seen it before this. Apparently the drink is over 100 years old. Black and Tan (Guinness and Larger) is also very popular. They are also mad into Kilkenny and Harp which is a little wierd considering you would be hard pushed to find either on tap at home.

    1. The Old Boy

      Isn’t Kilkenny just Smithwicks that’s nitrogenated as well as carbonated? The main reason behind it was that Americans couldn’t pronounce Smithwicks.

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