Snobs.
Anon writes:
“Is there any regulation that prevents landlords/letting agents lying about the address of a property? This is the second house on Parnell Road that I’ve seen advertised recently as Dublin 6w, but Parnell Road is in Dublin 12….”
Anyone?
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I don’t know if there is a law, but I know it doesn’t really matter.
It says its on Parnell Road too.
I mean what is the concern here?
It does matter. They should just used the correct post code. They are deliberately misleading potential buyers by using the wrong post code.
Someone lives in a tiny paper box in D6 or D4 and looks down on someone in a far superior house in D12. It’s pathetic.
It doesn’t matter, because regardless of what the ad says the person who lives there lives on Parnell Road.
So the potential tenant will live on Parnell Road.
If the tenant visits the place before they move in (as is common practice) then they will see the character of the area first hand and can judge it themselves.
So the postcode in the ad makes no real odds to the decision or the postcode in which the person lives.
I’m pretty sure none but the most stupid people will go “I live in D6W, I know this to be true because it said so on an ad on Daft.ie”.
Its not for sale, its for rent.
its probably someone like you skimming the article and picking up the wrong information that led to this tiny mistake.
they probably didnt spit a massive dummy like you though
This address is right on the border of Dublin 6w and 12, the shops 100 yards away are 6w. Likely an understandable error by the estate agent… or maybe it really is some big evil conspiracy.
Call it Dublin 12E and then everyone can go home.
It happens all the time with Crumlin/Kimmage property’s
The point is that the house is advertised as Dublin 6w because that is perceived as a more desirable area and enables them to charge a higher price. http://correctaddress.anpost.ie/pages/result.aspx?QuickSearch=10%20parnell%20road&Lang=English
So you know that for certain? Well that solves that so, thanks.
@LiamZero if that’s in reference to the above comment, I do actually. Family home is on that road and when it was valued a few years ago was told it would be worth significantly more if the address was Dublin 6w rather than Dublin 12.
it’s the price I’d be more concerned about… seems very high for what appears on offer…
That’s easily 2k worth of gaff there.
if it wasnt susceptible to flooding in the heavy rains (two doors down from where that woman got trapped in the basement floods). or gridlock traffic on the road outside in the mornings. I imagine the BER rating is top notch for this property as why else would the landlord chose to go for the exemption from listing it?
I was living in rented 3 bed house in D6W over a year ago that is now being rented for €1400 (wouldnt be surprised if its gone up already) and it was considerably more modern than this house, and had a piss poor BER rating of G as the wind and damp whistled through old wooden frame double glazing and down chimneys. Whoever forks out two grand hopefully has a decent supply of wooly jumpers, blankets and bottomless pockets for the heating bill.
*opens can of worms
i regularly come across this in south county dublin. ‘i’m from killiney’ nah mate, you’re from ballybrack. foxrock? sandyford. leopardstown? ballyogan. glenageary? sallynoggin. southsiders are generally ashamed of where they’re from, not like us northsiders.
Templeogue? Bawnogue.
Templeogue is probably the largest suburb in Ireland.
I’ve heard of places as far North as The KCR and as far south/west as just shy of Citywest being described as Templeogue.
I’ve no idea why people think it’s desirable. It’s a vast swathe of mono-cultured conservative white Irish in samey semi-detached 70s houses. A breeding ground for bankers and civil servants with no imaginations who still think a Latte is a fancy coffee.
As someone who lives there I can confirm, you are 100% correct.
What is a latte if it´s not a “fancy coffee”.
Whereas it’s really just a shot of freshly ground and percolated quality coffee beans mixed with frothy steamed milk and served in a tall glass. Jeez.
Do you write for Vice magazine Biros?
Pronounced ” law tay”
Rathfarnham is geographically the largest surburb, I cant vouch for the largest in peoples minds
I’ve never met anyone from Templeogue. In fact, I’m not even sure where it is.
I also have no idea what the difference is between Dublin 12, 6, 24.. or pretty much any other even number to be honest. Except 18. I live here now.
They’re not all wormy on the Southside, but I hear ya!
Agreed. Watsons is Ballybrack even if the residents like to think of it as Killiney
The same with Bayview in Ballybrack, not Killiney.
Incorrect
Locality snobbery. Small minded class snobbery which has permeated through Irish society for generations. The income difference between them is often the reverse of the perception. There’s plenty of unsophisticated snobs living in large detached houses without two pennies to rub together but they’ll look down on someone from a council estate who earns €100K a year after going through college and working hard and is far better educated.
You’re a very angry chap, you make me laugh.
BS deleted by reply to make it look like you had the last word there but all I was saying really was that asshats and people being dicks make me angry. I am in fact a very lucky chap with a very good life.
A tiny postcode mistake did make you flip out, I would say you have a deeper anger that you stain to keep internal.
I fear for those close to you
seek professional help
*hugs*
You’re probably as middle class as they come. Typical self-hater.
I’M SO ANGRY / I’M SO OUTRAGED / CORPORATE / BIG BUSINESS / SOUL-LESS PEOPLE / BORING SUBURBIA / VOTING FINE GAEL MEANS YOU’RE CONSERVATIVE / I LOVE REGENERATION / WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE SO GENUINE
I hate property developers/I love conservationists/
The snobbery you displayed above when describing the people living in tempelogue far outweighs this.
That’s about right.
Amazing how many people don’t realise that snobbery works both ways.
Happens on the north side too. Isn’t there a place called Glasnevin West or Glasnevin North which doesn’t even connect with Glasnevin. Residents got the name changed when Ballymun reached its infamy. Also: People in ‘Phibsborough’ who are really in Cabra, people in ‘Glasnevin’ who are really in Phibsborough, people in ‘Drumcondra’ who are really in Marino. Snobbery is everywhere, it’s certainly not confined to the south side.
EAs are lying c***s and are always misrepresenting addresses. It could come under false advertising legislation.
George is right you are very angry. Chill dude
No I’m not really but BS keep moderating me and pick and choose which replies they publish which tends to taint how I come across.
It’s their little power trip for the day.
You sound like one of those people who were perfectly pleasant on a reality show, but was made to look like a fool because of the “editing”
That whole area is hard to differentiate from in terms of postcodes. There is a coming together of Crumlin/Kimmage/Harolds Cross. For instance a lot of the houses on the lower kimmage road are termed as Harolds Cross, as Kimmage really doesn’t start till after the Sundrive crossroads.
AFAIK current Dublin “post codes” don’t have official borders.
The Grand Canal between Dublin 2 and 4 is but one example.
They do.
And if you post a letter to the wrong post code, it can be sent to the wrong sorting office and be delayed by two days.
They aren’t really geographic entities, no.
Camden St is the border between D2 and D8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dublin_postal_districts#mediaviewer/File:DublinPC.svg
Happens on the northside too – Castleknock? Eh no, you’re not even in Coolmine, you’re in Blanchardstown.
clontarf? east wall. finglas? glasnevin. harmonstown? artane. yeah, no-one’s immune to it.
I live in Dublin 8 and if for house tax purposes I could claim to live in Moyross, I would :)
They wouldn’t have the likes of you in Moyross.
Oh one can’t help being well-to-do can they?
On a date the other night with a guy from Kildare and he kept trying to ascertain where exactly I grew up in Limerick. I’m wondering why are we spending ten minutes talking about this, again?
These people who buy into all this bollocks are tediously boring people usually, as was my date.
P45 for him I’m afraid.
LOL
Ah, that’s not fair. I was making conversation. You could have done a lot more to put me at my ease, instead of sitting there judging. It’s not easy for us either, you know.
For what it’s worth anyway, I enjoyed myself.
Parnell Road is in D6W as far as I can make out on this:
http://www.irishtourist.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/dublin-postal-code-map.png
This house is in D12.
According to An Post.
If it’s the only thing the EA is lying about you’d be lucky. Welcome back to the land of ghost bids etc, for a year or so until the bottom falls out..
That’s what they said in 1996! We haven’t f**cked ourselves enough yet this time. If the crash had happened in 2005 instead of starting 2006 we would have saved about €30billion. That’s one of the most upsetting facts about the whole charade, we rode that horse so far into the mincer, our c**k got chopped off.
Of course the ideal was to let the correction happen in 2001/02 as it was about to before stamp duty changes.
Excellent metaphor.
Agreed…just fantastic…
The old “I don’t live in tallaght” debate. Being hearing it for donkey years. It’s all to change with the new post code system.
Get over it.
It won’t.
Dublin postcode will remain the same for consistency purposes and more added to the areas currently uncoded. So Dublin 24 will become D24, Dublin 3 becomes D03, Dublin 6W will be D6W. I suspect Dun Laoghaire will be D26, 28, 30 etc.
But area snobbery will continue alive and well as parents teach their children to be little locality snobs through their snide remarks as they pass by less affluent areas.
“Getting over it” is a noble pursuit to be encouraged, but not one which will be facilitated by the introduction of the new postcode system. It merely will add more numbers to the snobbery. I’ve lived in 4 cities around Europe, and one never escapes such number inclined snobbery. 2300? NEVER. Much better to go for 2000 or 1000. 5th arrondissement? Not as good as the 11th etc etc.
I’ve driven through Tallaght a few times.. It’s nice, in fact there are some pretty affluent looking areas there.
Just sayin’
You should try living and working in some parts of it rather than just driving through it.
Of course theres grand areas and lots of grand people.
There’s also absolute scumbags and real problem estates.
Every Dubliner knows that there are good and bad in every community. If you look at anti-social behaviour and what constitutes it you’ll find that the areas where it goes on publicly and out of doors are naturally going to earn a reputation for the area. Moreso than income levels, occupations and level of education. Though idleness is a dangerous thing in my view. The snobbery in Dublin is laughable – as is the so-called reverted snobbery.
Though idleness is a dangerous thing in my view.
How much idleness is ok in your opinion?
On Bertrand Russell’s 1932 essay ‘In Praise of Idleness’ –
http://philosophynow.org/issues/29/More_Praise_for_Idleness
Russell saw the belief in a duty to work as part of the ‘morality of slaves’: a device used by the holders of power to induce others to live for the interest of their masters. This provided those masters with leisure, but Russell was not praising the idleness that feeds on the industry of others. Of course, some of the leisure gained by the powerful is used to advance civilisation. “Leisure is essential to civilisation,” he argued, “and in former times leisure for the few was only rendered possible by the labours of the many. But their labours were valuable, not because work is good, but because leisure is good
Nice googling Anne.
What I meant was that idleness has a tendency to feed criminal behaviour. Bertrand is always a great read but he knows damn all about 21st Century Dublin.
I think his philosophy on work is particularly relevant to the 21st century.
Anyway, I think reputations are not warranted in a lot of cases, unfavourable or otherwise.
Camden St is the border between D2 and D8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dublin_postal_districts#mediaviewer/File:DublinPC.svg
I’m going out to buy a triple shot americano and some guns.
Why don´t we have a postcode system like the UK?
Same reason we don’t have one like Germany.
+Zingerburger and chips.
Now that made me laugh,,,very witty
We will
http://www.thejournal.ie/postcode-ireland-system-eircode-addresses-1437443-Apr2014/
I have to admit , as someone who grew up in Dublin 12 , the whole D6W thing makes me laugh.
I’d let them away it
http://s1.postimg.org/t5mjqh8sv/dublin_postal_code_map.jpg
My mate’s a postman and he told me that a woman who lives somewhere around Kimmage is always complaining that her Amazon deliveries etc are always delayed.
He continually tells her that she lives in D12, but she insists on entering her address as 6W on websites etc. So the sorting office sends it out to the D12 post for delivery, but it’s not on any D12 routes, so has to go back to the sorting office for redelivery.
That’s funny.
@ Custo
Hyacinth Bouquet.
Thanks Custo that was amusing
Surely if she lives in D12 it is on one of the D12 routes? Unless she is correct and it is D6W?