Should be watching TG4 like all good Irish Catholics, amirite?
delacaravanio
Bingo. If an Irish friend texted me and told me they’d no pants I’d laugh thinking what sort of an eejit were they that they managed to lose them. If they were British, on the other hand, I’d be thinking things were after getting awfully kinky between us.
Grouse
But are pants trousers here? I never had any English channels but I’m fairly sure I never heard “pants” used as “trousers” before the late ’90s.
Banotti
Pants are underpants. Nothing west brit about it.
Sidewinder
Yup, it’s a Dub thing, not a west brit thing. The rest of the country (or at least outside leinster) thinks pants are trousers.
The Old Boy
I was utterly unaware of this and reserve the right to narrow my eyes in a manner suggesting that I remain unconvinced.
Sidewinder
As a dub? Funny that. Well in that case its just some people who say pants for underwear I guess.
The Old Boy
I meant what you said about “the rest of the country”, not about Dublin.
Sidewinder
Oh yeah, only ever met one non-dub who thought pants meant underwear and she was from Wicklow.
John E. Bravo
+#toppantzbantz
cluster
As a Dub, I’d agree that pants are merely trousers.
As a Dub, your comment displays the narrow-minded, useless chip in the shoulder exhibited by so many people in Ireland ‘outside the Pale’.
Maybe if you country denizens spent a bit less time policing behaviour with 19th Century cliches, you might create a bit more original culture and there’d be less need to rely on the likes of bbc&ITV
As a Dub, slacks was the preferred term for overpants in our house….
Sinabhfuil
Pants are certainly female underwear, unless you call them knickers or ‘lingerie’ (mispronounced lonjerey).
sickofallthisbs
So should I pronounce it lingery? As in a fart that lingers? A lingery fart? Is that what that means? A fart with knickers on?
Feegan
Or LANjuray as in ‘I hear it’s Ireland’s largest LANjuray department’
Seriously though, always thought pants were underwear or knickers and pants was an American term for trousers. Pretty sure I’ve heard people from all over the country say ‘pants’ but have never thought about it too deeply… Until now
Thanks BS
Bingo
As long as no one starts calling them ‘keks’.
sparkilicious
Suburban Dub here.
Pants = briefs/y-fronts/knickers
Have none of you heard the phrase “pair of pants”? We don’t use it to refer to trousers now do we?
cluster
Um… yea, we do.
Very like ‘pair of trousers’
Or ‘pair if boxers’ for that matter.
Mikeyfex
What are underpants under, people?
Korma
Im a dub, grew up in the 80’s. Pants are trousers. In fact I live in the uk and still say pants for trousers. People can laugh all they want, I’m proud of my irishisms.
I’ve always called my underwear, ‘underwear’…. I’m female so, they’re really too small to be pant like in shape? Maybe Im just nuts though.
Grouse
Okay, I’m still really confused. Those of you sayings “pants” = “trousers”, I understand your position that pants does not mean underpants, but would you also commonly use pants to mean trousers? Are you saying that traditionally, say 30 or 50 years ago, non-Dubs would have said pants regularly, meaning trousers? Or would they have simply not used the word at all (until it came over from America)?
delacaravanio
My grandad, a Kerryman, called trousers pants, and he’d never been to America.
Grouse
Fascinating. My family is from just within and Pale and just beyond the Pale, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard pants used to mean trousers (they would say “trousers”). I’ll have to canvas them this Christmas.
Alfred E. Neumann
“Terrible bad connection on that call from Grouse. All I got is that he wants canvas trousers for Christmas.”
“Well, If that’s what he wants. Good job I didn’t put a deposit on that juicer.”
Grouse
Haha. But “juicer” is a recent Americanism, of course. No true Irishman would call it anything other than a turnip-thrasher.
Alfred E. Neumann
Outside Dublin “pants” is, or was, regularly used to mean trousers. I suspect it was used by Dubliners too, perhaps until it was pushed out by exposure to the English usage. When Bloom in Ulysses says “father’s pants will soon fit Willy”, I don’t think he’s talking about hand-me-down underwear. (Thought with Joyce, of course, it is possible.)
Does anyone have access to the OED?
Grouse
I thought Gutenberg would throw up reams of examples, but I only found “pants” in ‘Further Experiences of an Irish R.M,’ written by a turn of the (20th) century Anglo-Irish author. Used to mean trousers, of course. My search was not a very precise one, though.
Zubeneschamali
Male, 50, from Dublin.
Pants means trousers, and always did.
Korma
My Dad, nearly 70, from Dublin, calls trousers ‘Pants’, as does my mum who is from Mayo. I’m pretty sure that their parents did too. I imagine some households always say/said trousers and some say pants, but it definitely isn’t something that we picked up from the US. Its probably more like (like a lot of the things we say similar to the US and different from UK) we’ve influenced haw they say things in the US, as so many American have Irish ancestry.
Neilo
Trousers are ‘trews’, ‘slacks’, ‘kex’, ‘pants’ or ‘strides’. What lies beneath can be ‘pants’ or ‘kex’, ‘grundies’ or ‘undercrackers’ or ‘trollies’.
The west Brits brought up on ITV and BBC.
Pants are not underwear here.
That’s the UK you stupid fupping Dubs.
The bringer of faex.
+10
Should be watching TG4 like all good Irish Catholics, amirite?
Bingo. If an Irish friend texted me and told me they’d no pants I’d laugh thinking what sort of an eejit were they that they managed to lose them. If they were British, on the other hand, I’d be thinking things were after getting awfully kinky between us.
But are pants trousers here? I never had any English channels but I’m fairly sure I never heard “pants” used as “trousers” before the late ’90s.
Pants are underpants. Nothing west brit about it.
Yup, it’s a Dub thing, not a west brit thing. The rest of the country (or at least outside leinster) thinks pants are trousers.
I was utterly unaware of this and reserve the right to narrow my eyes in a manner suggesting that I remain unconvinced.
As a dub? Funny that. Well in that case its just some people who say pants for underwear I guess.
I meant what you said about “the rest of the country”, not about Dublin.
Oh yeah, only ever met one non-dub who thought pants meant underwear and she was from Wicklow.
+#toppantzbantz
As a Dub, I’d agree that pants are merely trousers.
As a Dub, your comment displays the narrow-minded, useless chip in the shoulder exhibited by so many people in Ireland ‘outside the Pale’.
Maybe if you country denizens spent a bit less time policing behaviour with 19th Century cliches, you might create a bit more original culture and there’d be less need to rely on the likes of bbc&ITV
They’d have ta work in Dublin for that like
You need to be careful that chip on your shoulder doesn’t tip you over.
From a discussion of Catholic symbolism and calls for a newly imagined Republic to pants and an 8 year-old’s giggles.
Please, help! If pants are underwear, then what are underpants? Under-underwear?
You surly get that the key word in underpants is the under part?!
You’ve totally missed the joke.
I used to love the feel of an aul corse Farragh in the morning, that’s real pants!
Amurcans are to blame on this one for shortening pantalons to pants.
So now they have to say underwear which is longer.
And to think, they could have shortened it to ‘loons. Bloody Yanks, always effing things up.
Disturbing that US English has not penetrated as deeply into the young Irish psyche as it should. “Pants” here means trews.
“Pants” as in urban dictionary is a BRIT (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pants) thing. Just like nobody would be up for “slacks” east of Athboy, you shouldn’t be sniggering at “pants” either.
As a Dub, slacks was the preferred term for overpants in our house….
Pants are certainly female underwear, unless you call them knickers or ‘lingerie’ (mispronounced lonjerey).
So should I pronounce it lingery? As in a fart that lingers? A lingery fart? Is that what that means? A fart with knickers on?
Or LANjuray as in ‘I hear it’s Ireland’s largest LANjuray department’
Seriously though, always thought pants were underwear or knickers and pants was an American term for trousers. Pretty sure I’ve heard people from all over the country say ‘pants’ but have never thought about it too deeply… Until now
Thanks BS
As long as no one starts calling them ‘keks’.
Suburban Dub here.
Pants = briefs/y-fronts/knickers
Have none of you heard the phrase “pair of pants”? We don’t use it to refer to trousers now do we?
Um… yea, we do.
Very like ‘pair of trousers’
Or ‘pair if boxers’ for that matter.
What are underpants under, people?
Im a dub, grew up in the 80’s. Pants are trousers. In fact I live in the uk and still say pants for trousers. People can laugh all they want, I’m proud of my irishisms.
I’ve always called my underwear, ‘underwear’…. I’m female so, they’re really too small to be pant like in shape? Maybe Im just nuts though.
Okay, I’m still really confused. Those of you sayings “pants” = “trousers”, I understand your position that pants does not mean underpants, but would you also commonly use pants to mean trousers? Are you saying that traditionally, say 30 or 50 years ago, non-Dubs would have said pants regularly, meaning trousers? Or would they have simply not used the word at all (until it came over from America)?
My grandad, a Kerryman, called trousers pants, and he’d never been to America.
Fascinating. My family is from just within and Pale and just beyond the Pale, and I don’t think I’ve ever heard pants used to mean trousers (they would say “trousers”). I’ll have to canvas them this Christmas.
“Terrible bad connection on that call from Grouse. All I got is that he wants canvas trousers for Christmas.”
“Well, If that’s what he wants. Good job I didn’t put a deposit on that juicer.”
Haha. But “juicer” is a recent Americanism, of course. No true Irishman would call it anything other than a turnip-thrasher.
Outside Dublin “pants” is, or was, regularly used to mean trousers. I suspect it was used by Dubliners too, perhaps until it was pushed out by exposure to the English usage. When Bloom in Ulysses says “father’s pants will soon fit Willy”, I don’t think he’s talking about hand-me-down underwear. (Thought with Joyce, of course, it is possible.)
Does anyone have access to the OED?
I thought Gutenberg would throw up reams of examples, but I only found “pants” in ‘Further Experiences of an Irish R.M,’ written by a turn of the (20th) century Anglo-Irish author. Used to mean trousers, of course. My search was not a very precise one, though.
Male, 50, from Dublin.
Pants means trousers, and always did.
My Dad, nearly 70, from Dublin, calls trousers ‘Pants’, as does my mum who is from Mayo. I’m pretty sure that their parents did too. I imagine some households always say/said trousers and some say pants, but it definitely isn’t something that we picked up from the US. Its probably more like (like a lot of the things we say similar to the US and different from UK) we’ve influenced haw they say things in the US, as so many American have Irish ancestry.
Trousers are ‘trews’, ‘slacks’, ‘kex’, ‘pants’ or ‘strides’. What lies beneath can be ‘pants’ or ‘kex’, ‘grundies’ or ‘undercrackers’ or ‘trollies’.
Two words – panty liners
Would that be the Jumbo pack or the ones with a tie-string?
Either, the principle is the same… :-)