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MORE to folly.

Thanks Neil Henderson (UK covers); Colin McGann (The Clare People); Tanya O’Neil (Westmeath Examiner & Connaught Telegraph); Dermot Ahern (The Irish Examiner); Garrett Rowe (The irish Times); Paul Murphy (The irish Sun).

Covers to broadsheet@broadsheet.ie

25 thoughts on “De Tuesday Papers

    1. Clampers Outside!

      Economies of scale? First, The Sun sells well in the north, sells more there than in the South. Also, it doesn’t change much of the mainland UK content if any for the NI edition. And finally, there are full news, production and ad sales teams down south that they don’t have in the north.

      My tuppence

    1. Caroline

      It’s so obnoxious. Plus there’s no justification for calling a 43-year-old man a lad, unless the word now connotes ‘male of any age in tabloid-tragic situation’.

      1. LiamZero

        As obnoxious as their insistence on calling every single mother ‘ma’ in their headlines. That one really bugs me.

  1. Fergal Barry

    It’s depressing that the ‘intellectual’ response to one of the hardest hitting headlines of the year by any paper to a serious social issue is illiterate criticism of a journalist’s choice of words. One of the definitions of ‘lad’ is ‘an affectionate or friendly term for a man’. Maybe if your only experience of the word is when it is followed by ‘magazine’, you could Google it first. Or, actually, because the issue is so trivial compared to the point The Sun is trying to make, maybe you could just shut up.

    1. Kieran NYC

      What a load of boll0cks.

      The man’s death should be treated with the seriousness it deserves. Not a newspaper pretending he was one of their ‘mates’.

    2. Clampers Outside!

      Our medias’ use of language is extremely important on all matters, even showing respect. And viewing your own definition of lad there, I don’t see how an unknown journalist could show ‘affection’ as described when the journalist never even new the guy… that in itself is disingenuous. It’s intended to give the impression ‘we knew him’, it brings the story closer to the reader. It’s intention being, as tabloids go, to provoke a response first, report the news second.

  2. Fergal Barry

    I didn’t expect a serious response from the hardline ‘intelligentsia’ but as Kieran has gone half way to putting forward a position, I’ll do him the courtesy of a reply. Addressing the man in a friendly way is not the same thing as saying he is your friend. It is just leaving the reader in no doubt the paper regards the victim as someone you would consider being friends with. It’s actually the inverse of calling him a hobo. Can we not reserve our anger for the people who caused this situation instead of all this posturing about ‘the meeja’ when the journalist has actually used a friendly and partial word showing the paper is favorably disposed to the dead person? What word would you use to convey the victim was non-threatening, blameless and undeserving of death? Don’t say ‘man’ because that doesn’t convey anything other than his gender and seeing as we seem to be all on board here with word choice, I’d be interested in what word could have been used.

    1. Alfred E. Neumann

      “I didn’t expect a serious response from the hardline ‘intelligentsia’ but as Kieran has gone half way to putting forward a position, I’ll do him the courtesy of a reply.”

      Is this the way you talk to everyone?

    2. DD

      Like it or not, a ‘lad’ these days is someone that’s a mans man, a mischievous scallywag but at the end of the day he’s one of the boys,a bit of a pup-like one of the irritating guys they use in ladbrokes tv ads.
      This is what is associated with the word now and I’m sure you’re aware of that. 4/5 years ago it was probably not the case. I don’t think it’s an appropriate term for a man that died living on the street.

      1. Alfred E. Neumann

        Fair points, DD. It’s a bogus argument anyway. Nobody would read “Failed by the State: Homeless man found dead 50m from the Dáil” as somehow hostile to the victim.

    3. Clampers Outside!

      “…posturing about ‘the meeja’”…. what a load of claptrap.

      “What word would you use to convey the victim was non-threatening, blameless and undeserving of death?” Answer – ‘Man’

  3. Fergal Barry

    So the whole of your outrage about this incident is eclipsed by a paper using lad. Even though the word is perfectly OK by dictionary definition. Just keep your perspective lads, ye’d all do well in the Dail. They’re very good at twisting words too…and equally useless about fixing the main issues.

    1. jungleman

      The only logical inference to be made from your spew is that you are a purchaser of the Sun and believe it to be a high quality newspaper.

      Top LAD.

    2. DD

      Of course not. The bigger issue is very clear here. In saying that, lad was not an appropriate term. Language evolves so don’t bother with the dictionary argument. Stay tabloid, Fergal.

    3. Alfred E. Neumann

      So the whole of your outrage about this incident is eclipsed by a discussion about a paper using “lad”. Just keep your perspective, Fergal, you’d do well in the Dail. They’re very good at twisting words too… and equally useless about fixing the main issues.

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