Meanwhile, At NCAD

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Further to a huge intake of new students at the National College of Art and Design in Dublin (top this morning).

The deadline has just passed.

More as we get it.

Art Students Are Revolting (Rashers Tierney, Rabble.ie)

Thanks John Gallen

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32 thoughts on “Meanwhile, At NCAD

  1. ahyeah

    Great pity but the same thing is happening throughout third-level education – all just corporate entities now.

  2. Vote Rep #1

    Last year the last working furnace in the glass department broke and was never fixed. As far as I know, it has still not been fixed. How can a college state that they have a glass department when they don’t actually facilitate the blowing of glass and do nothing for the students who are or were doing glass at the time?

    1. Mani

      I’d say the Dean of Partying Down would point his thumbs in the direction of the college bar and say ‘Get all the blowing you like done in there, sugar’

  3. Paps

    I’m sure whoever wrote this letter is perfectly equipped to run a college , perhaps put them in charge for a month and watch everything go to shyte.

    1. Vote Rep #1

      Going by what has been reported when the current board got dragged in front of the PAC, I doubt they would do much worse.

    2. SOMK

      I’m sure whoever commented on this piece is perfectly equipped to run their own multi-user website, perhaps ask them to construct a rudimentry mySQL database for a month and watch everything go to shyte.

  4. JimmytheHead

    Bureaucrats dont see the point in Art – unless its something they can put in their lobby to show off in front of other corpo’s. Shame NCAD cant be the exception, but as stated above its happening to all of them including Trinity and UCD.

  5. Just sayin'

    Its endearing that students think the same way as the Socialists in the Dáil, refusing to pay anything close to the economic cost of services while simultaneously demanding better services. Maybe NCAD could introduce Economics 101 for the numerically-challenged.

    1. Domestos

      Economics 101 leads to far too many people saying ‘it’s a simple case of supply and demand’, when it normally isn’t.

      1. Nigel

        People who say ‘it’s a simply case of supply and demand’ seem to think that there can’t be complex problems surrounding issues of supply and/or demand leading to bad outcomes, or assume that a laissez faire approach must be taken to those problems because markets are infalible.

  6. Gavin

    Come on folks you have to admit they have a few points if not the one where a glass department is not able to facilitate the blowing of glass.

  7. SOMK

    GAH!

    If you worked in a business and say the owner decided to increase the number of workers by 75%, but not to increase how much they pay out in wages, with the wages instead diluted, you’d probably be a bit put out by that wouldn’t you? Well that’s essentially what’s happening in NCAD but worse. because your third level education is a once-off, it’s preparation for being a productive working member of (usually middle class) society, people here seem to be taking offense with some students taking their education seriously and complaining that the quality of the education and support services they receive that make that education possible have been drastically reduced.

    If people have an issue with the existence of art colleges, well they’re no secret, you can Google their addresses, maybe paint up some signs, stage a few protests, maybe you could paint some really really good signs which you think are better than the art you see in galleries these days (which you don’t visit anyway), perhaps throw a few rocks at a 19 year old art students whilst you’re at it, you know really commit, show some conviction, see if you did that, then maybe you’d have an ethical base from which you could fairly criticise people for attempting to get the best education they can, the education they were promised, because then you would have demonstrated some conviction that stands in some kind of coherent opposition to that desire (unless you have an issue with people wanting the best education they can get), rather than lazy ad hominem dogerel, who’s only real message is “I hate everyone who isn’t me”, which is easy to do with art students cause they dress funny and are younger than you*, and do silly pointless crap like make art, instead of good sensible solid stuff, like slowly waste away all your life in a dead end 9-5 and only getting to do what you really want, when you reach an age where you can no longer sit on a toilet without your balls touching the water, and you can’t climb a flight of stairs without feeling like starving rats are eating your knees, and your children who you spent your whole life raising are impatient even talking to you, and living in Australia, never mind just keep chanting to yourself “I hate everyone who isn’t me”, over and over again, which is essentially just self-loathing in a fake moustache.

    *which isn’t to say (some, if not many, or even most) art students aren’t gits of the highest order, but if anyone in society is supposed to be designated ‘git of the highest order’ then surely it’s art students? Society needs designated gits, otherwise people forget what a git is and if you don’t know who the git is, then the git is you and you could easily end up living under the dictatorship of the git, imagine living in a country run exclusively by idiotic, know-nothing, cynical, gits, why it’d be enough to make you want to just go be an artist or something.

      1. 15 cents

        i wish you’d stop using Rob G as your moniker, my name is Rob G too and im terrified people might think im the one leaving all the fupphead comments you leave on broadsheet daily.

  8. AG

    Good Luck to the
    Students! There’s is too much corporate bullshit decision making going on in colleges, the heads in NCAD should remember what they gained in their own students protests. Education matters too much, whether it’s NCAD, UCD, IADT, Trinity etc., to be run by bean counters and not educationalists who put the best interest of students (who are future middle class tax payers) first!

  9. Peavolov

    This has been going on in IADT for the last 8 years or so. The students of all the colleges need to get together and do something.

      1. Ciarán

        First they came for DLIADT, and I did nothing to save them, for I was NCAD
        Then they came for DIT, and I did nothing to save them, for I was NCAD
        And when they came for me…. etc.

        1. Roj

          ..when they came for you it was for spending too many years in college instead of getting off your arse and getting a job..

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