This morning.
The Clarence Hotel, Dublin
Siobhan O Buachalla with her daughter Cliona and Fianna Fáil TD Pat Carey helping to launch the Yes Campaign on behalf of Irish language equality activists Ta Comhionannas in this Marriage Equality Referendum.
Troid!
(Sam Boal/Photocall Ireland)
Meanwhile…
This afternoon.
Fine Gael’s Director of Elections for the Marriage Equality Referendum, Minister Simon Coveney and Minster for Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, Heather Humphreys at the launch of Fine Gael’s dedicated Marriage Equality web portal in the Webfactory, 7 Bachelor’s Walk, Dublin 1.
The portal hoNOMNOMNOMNOM
(Sasko Lazarov/Photocall Ireland)
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Coola-boola lads – crack on. Apologies for the pronounciation, I was not born on this island and the only Irish I know is from Broadsheet and the 13 year old next door who teaches me all the rude words
Interesting report in the IT this morning of a UK case where a surrogate mother wanted to keep her child that she had contracted to give to a gay couple.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/surrogate-mother-played-victim-to-try-keep-child-from-gay-father-1.2201827
A taste of what is to come for Ireland?
The rephrase of “a surrogate mother wanted to keep her child that she had contracted to give to [another] couple.” should highlight why this has absolutely nothing to do with this referendum.
It is relevant because, were this case in Ireland, if the other couple (who are two gay men) were married, they would have the full protection of the Irish Constitution to remove the child (who was being breast-fed) from its mother.
The mother in this case seems like a kind of nasty person, or certainly is reported in that light.
The mother who entered into the agreement in the first place, albeit with devious intent…. You may not agree with surrogacy and fair enough, do not it then. But it has nothing to do with the SSM referendum and it will continue to happen regardless of whether the referendum passes or not, in both gay and straight couples. Better to concentrate on making sure families of all kinds are supported and that surrogacy laws adequately cover such situations to prevent stress on children.
Would have full protection to remove the child from its breastfeeding mother? Wft? That is simply not true.
News read that on the internet somewhere so it must be true…
sure that happens to straight couples too
It completely does, Unless you read that link that says the couple were more than happy to co-parent with her, because shock horror, the gays understand that its important for people to know their parents and that the women was over-egging her separation of the child. She also made homophobic towards the father of her child. Who does that?
Oh, and she still gets to see the child. So, yeah. whatever.
newsjustin- why don’t you get in touch with your TDs now if you are concerned about surrogacy? The government will be legislating for that later this year.
The marriage vote in a couple of weeks is about civil marriage between two gay adults. Those no posters certainly are muddying the waters recently!
Well, I think that case was a particularly notable one, but it’s not unheard of for a surrogate to change their mind after the birth of a baby regardless of the sex of the couple with whom she contracted. To the best of my knowledge, this is accepted as a risk when you start down the road to finding a surrogate and the courts generally decide in the birth mother’s favour.
The commodification of children will lead to such nasty legal battles. And I worry that SSM will simple add fuel to that fire.
‘commodification of children’? which pseudo-intellectual bog-roll did lift that from?
That’s the No campaign atttiude to surrogacy in a nutshell.
Surrogacy may be a fire.
SSM may add fuel to the fire.
Ignore that the fire already exists but fight the thing that might add a little fuel to it.
Surrogacy exists. Surrogacy will be legislated for in October or November of this year. The referendum won’t change either of those things. Drop the red herring.
Is newsjustin one of those “Oh I’m voting Yes (but really I’m voting No) two-faced types?
Headline should read….
Father wins custody of child from unhinged spiteful mother.
Or “Father awarded ownership of child he bought from unhinged mother – bailiffs recommend father bottle feed child against WHO recommendations.”
Overly long though…
WHO recommends breastfeeding exclusively for 6 months, not 12.
….Carey is no longer a TD…he got the boot in 2011 from Dublin. Don’t worry though, he got a huge payoff and a generous pension.
I want one of those Irish Posters !!! Tres chic
+1
i traded a Yes badge for a Tá badge when i was down the wesht last weekend. delighted with it
Wonder what Heather secretly thinks.
I suppose yes voters will eat the donut from the inside out?
Is anyone else getting annoyed with V being crowbarred in to Gaeilge or should I just let it go?
No, keep fighting the good fight. ABCDEFGHILMNOPRSTU was enough for Peig. I get very annoyed with this veist and zú business.
H? Tis far from H you were reared. Dots above preceding consonants for life.
I was going to put the H in brackets for that very reason but there was a h for the likes of go h-álainn.
Exactly vótáil tá gach aoine!
So that everyone can enjoy Lá Vailintín equally.
(Also don’t forget to get your vacsaíní form your local vacsaíneoir before travelling to Daonphoblacht Vítneam and make sure to pack suitable clothes like veisteanna from your vardrús. Vástchótaí are not acceptable and may confuse the local Vítneamaigh).
So take your vitimíní and Vótáil Tá
Let it go, its been there for a while. Should be a better effort made at translation though.
Disagree, Votáil Tá is perfect.
And Vótáil Tá is purfeckter.
Please explain (I don’t understand what you’re on about), and if it’s suitably offensive to the wilting Gaeilgeoir flowers I’m your man!
Ah, right, I see now. No, it’s not an issue. No outrage here. Stand down Gaelic hordes, stand down!
This is the only compelling reason to vote no that I have seen:
The abuse of the Irish language, where Vót is the Irish for Vote, and all f a sudden we forget that the putative imperative tense would be Vótagí…
Exactly. Vótáil is voting, surely.