those children should be fast asleep in warm bed, not sleeping rough outside on a cold night, I’d actually give them a roof under our house if it were big enough, is there no one that can step up and give them a roof over their heads for a few nights? No point in putting them in a hostel with junkies and alcoholics as its going to scare those poor kids.
St. John Smythe
I’m sure the kids wouldn’t mind how big or small your house is. All three of them would be happy to sleep on the living room floor, its got to beat a park. Why not make contact today?
the good helen
its not how big my house is, it is that i have a child and our house is hardly big enough for us never mind 2 adults and 3 kids. And believe me i’d offer if I could. As would you i’m sure. Also, update on this temporary accomodation has been found for the family through ICHH.
mic
is this true? is there more to this or is this what’s become of Ireland?
Mister Mister
I don’t believe it’s completely factual for starters. And isn’t the vast majority of Fatima local authority housing, I don’t think you’d find too many privately owned properties there.
Mr. T.
Wise up and do your research and stop pretending this isn’t happening to make yourself feel better.
Fatima was rebuilt as a mix of privately owned and council owned and mixed ownership housing over the last 10 years. So this family may have had a mortgage on a private house or apartment.
Mister Mister
And you also believe they got a knock on the door and turfed out onto the street too there and the n ?
Mr. T.
You know how it works. Court orders.
Not everyone has a Daddy or siblings with money to bail them out of difficult situations.
This is what happens when a cowardly government gets though on the vulnerable.
Mister Mister
I always have a good old chuckle when people like yourself assume that people are where they are, and think they way they do, because they got money handed to them.
Bitter much ?
Mani
I dunno. I mean on the one hand Helen says she’d give them a room if she could and then when pressed seems a little iffy on the notion.
the good helen
mani, as I said, I would give them a room if I could (as in if I had a room to give them, as in IF I COULD), I have a child and wouldn’t like to see any kids, never mind 3 under the age of find sleeping rough on the streets. COP ON. keyboard warrior.
Mani
If I had a golden watermelon id give it to you Helen. But I don’t. So sorry.
Squiggleyjoop
“If ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ were candy and nuts then that’s what little boys are made of.”
realPolithicks
Mani, sometimes your funny, often your not. Try not to be an assh*le.
Starina
what can we do about this? That’s not a rhetorical question.
Jonotti
Take the children into care and away from irresponsible parents that have them sleeping on the street unnecessarily.
dereviled
You’re starting to sound dangerously socialist Jonotti. Shouldn’t we be conservative and throw them crumbs so they don’t actually starve but die slowly of neglect?
the good helen
really, so they lose their home and they are irresponsible parents? would you cop on, so then not only do you lose your home but your kids are taken away. Alot of things are out of peoples controls. Losing jobs, family deaths, the list can go on mate, the family with 3 kids under 5 should not be homeless end of.
Starina
wow. troll level platinum.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Maybe you could give them one of your international caps to make them feel better?
Djizandapus
You can put your hand down Don, most people stopped high fiving about that later that same afternoon.
Dόn Pídgéόní
No, this is never not funny
Jonotti
I’m even embarrassed for you with that post.
Dόn Pídgéόní
It wounds!!!
Mr. T.
Says Jonotti, buoyed up by Djiz.
Jonotti
Oh no, the big bad banks must have come in the nailer of the night without notice and pulled this family from their beds onto the streets. This must have been a bolt out of the blue to them and that explains why the have made no alternative living arrangements.
Punches Pilot
There’s a lightning bolt waiting on us all at some point. Touch more humility might not go astray in your case.
I, for one, fear this night nailer and hope that the gardai can put an end to him and his hammer of terror.
Lorcan Nagle
At this point I’m unsure if you genuinely believe the stuff you post on here, or are just doing it to get a rise.
Either way, it says plenty about you.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Is he our very own Katie Hopkins?
Jonotti
My posts are nearly always genuine. I cannot stand these one sided sob stories that are heavily politicised. All of the recent big stories of this ilk have been completely discredited.
Punches Pilot
There were kids sleeping in a park. The rights and wrongs of politicised argument go out the window at that point irrespective
Jonotti
I don’t believe that anybody slept in a park. They want us to accept this as fact and I’m not willing to do so.
Dόn Pídgéόní
Katie says this too.
Is Jonotti Katie?!!
Mic
I feel I should comment on the number of overtly racist comments on that facebook post too. But then, why am I surprised?
Vote Rep #1
Its pretty depressing alright.
Mic
I have a suspicion the poor family may not be Irish in any case. Where then does that leave the “look after our own” crowd?
Just had a look….. *shudders*… i’ll stay here in the warm, sarky but cosy, sniping comment section of BS
Squiggleyjoop
Had a look there too. Just want to say you’re all great. I appreciate that now.
John
im sure there is a back story to this that has been conveniently left out by this post.
phil
Is that what happens when wages and pensions eat up budgets in the Governemnt sector, leaving no money to actually provide services?
All this union talk about ‘pay restoration’ in the public sector makes me very uncomfortable when I read stories like this…
And no Im not bashing PS, this is something that should be discussed…
Punches Pilot
Ever generation since the foundation of this state have said the very same thing. It will never change.
Punches Pilot
*Every*
Randy Ewing
Those terrible banks ! Shocking stuff.
Why didn’t the banks give them some warning that not repaying their loan might result in this or not even arrange them a place with friends or families to stay, disgraceful banks, they surely should all be shut down, their employees sacked and premises turned into shelters !
Punches Pilot
“they surely should all be shut down, their employees sacked and premises turned into shelters”
Not a bad idea actually :-)
jungleman
You belong over in the journal comments section.
ethereal_myst
Assuming that they are the people who had a mortgage out on the property. There are a lot of people are in rented accommodation paying their rent but the landlords are not paying the mortgage, they have no control on that and generally don’t fine out until it is too late.
So, bank initiates repossession proceedings against landlord. He/she continues to keep the rental income and doesn’t inform the tenants. The first the tenant knows is when he/she’s evicted.
Good old Ireland, unemployment on the rise, nationl debt on the rise, evictions on the rise but don’t worry because Edna wants to hang around for another 8 years!!
Kieran NYC
Unemployment and national debt have been coming down for the last few years.
Randy Ewing
Read the posting , it says the banks evicted them.
jungleman
Not sure I buy much of this story. Reminds me of the one about that woman who moved into her car with her kids.
Also, it should be a crime to say “there” instead of “their” more than once in a paragraph.
Would it be worth the govts while giving tax relief to people who give a room for free to people whom are homeless, a temporary measure coming into winter to get people off the streets?
Jonotti is witty and engaging.
Have you ever seen ‘One Man and His Dog’?
We are the sheep and we secretly enjoy it.
Avon Barksdale
Jonotti lives in a pineapple under the sea
Mr. T.
For all those white Irish comfortable types sneering at the misfortune of a family living in a city centre park:
It doesn’t really matter how they got to that point. The problem here is that there is no emergency accommodation for them.
You should be concerned that this is happening in your city, a modern European capital.
Cheerleading cuts in social welfare, health services, repossession of homes by banks, etc all lead to situations like this where the least well off or those caught in circumstances beyond any reasonable control are left out to dry by the state.
Good citizens show compassion for others during difficult times. If you don’t, you don’t deserve to have compassion shown to you by anyone, including your own family.
Joxer
Thanks Mr. T , was about to make the same point!
Seriously
I think a lot of people do have sympathy for the family but this article is so horribly written, it has all the hallmarks of clickbait and when your average Joe reads it, it leaves them confused about who to be angry at!
Bort
Some of these stories are a bit fishy, during the council credit card crisis last week one anecdotal story was repeated by the council on many radio stations. A family with two small children, came to them seeking emergency accommodation, because the card was maxed they couldn’t get a hotel room or equivelant for them anywhere and the family had to sleep in some industrial unit. They said the family had “lost their home” because their landlord sold the house. They would have had at least 3 months notice possibly more before they had to vacate their home and what about the rent money they would have had to have to pay the next months rent? It’s sad state of affairs that a family in this country wouldn’t have friends or relatives they couldn’t go to even short term, even parents of school friends to take the kids. But sure why would you when you can roll down to the council and demand a hotel room. I do realise that this can be the case, my mother used to work in the Women’s Refuge in Rathmines and would often take in mothers and their children into our house when the shelter was full. But these here say stories without facts like the one above don’t help anyone’s cause and only divides people. I think we’d all be better off knowing the full facts of the situation. when you have these “woman forced to live with family in car” stories come out and that the woman was taking the p1ss it only seeks to lessen the severity of other peoples situations.
ollie
Bort, why would they get 3 months notice? Landlord stops paying mortgage, bank official turn up and evict tenants with no notice.
It’s happening in Ireland every day.
In any event, the only option for a homeless family is a wait ing list for a hotel room or the kindness of friends or family. This is no way for a society to function.
Mister Mister
It doesn’t just happen like that everyday. A notice of intention to repossess is posted to the door of the house months in advance.
A family we know found themselves in such a situation, was told the landlord wasn’t paying the mortgage and they have X amount of time left in the house. No drama, they went looking elsewhere and found one just around the corner from where they were previously.
Bort
Even if this happens they would have been paying rent so you would think they still had some money to spend on temporary accommodation?
Don Pidgeoni
Not everyone has savings.
MarkA
Just covered on RTE News at 1.
Fergus the magic postman
I’m never one to wish ill on anyone. However in this case I make an exceptioon, & I genuinely hope that if a period of darkness/ despair/ helplessness come the direction of you Jonotti, or you Mister Mister, that you receive no more than the same levels of compassion that you display here, not just now, but all too often.
Jonotti
You’d love that wouldn’t you. To see me on the scrap heap begging for help. I will never need any of help or have some damascene conversion. My limited humanity has taken me near the top and I’m only heading upwards. Actually that’s not true. I have some humanity but it’s rational cynicism that has made me.
This story stinks buy rather than abuse me why not reach out and give this family a few grand yourself.
Mister Mister
You’re the one with problems if you think I wish ill of anyone.
I’m just questioning what the full facts are. You should try it sometime.
Fergus the magic postman
I didn’t say you wish ill of anyone. I said that I hope in your time of need you get the same amount of compassion that you seem to display here. If you think you’re showing a fair amount of compassion, well then you shouldn’t have a problem.
MarkA
Joe Duffy now interviewing a woman with a 15yr old who slept in Phoenix Park.
Jonotti
She was probably having a nice summer camp with her son. Illegally so but not the biggest crime in the world spending quality time with your teenager.
those children should be fast asleep in warm bed, not sleeping rough outside on a cold night, I’d actually give them a roof under our house if it were big enough, is there no one that can step up and give them a roof over their heads for a few nights? No point in putting them in a hostel with junkies and alcoholics as its going to scare those poor kids.
I’m sure the kids wouldn’t mind how big or small your house is. All three of them would be happy to sleep on the living room floor, its got to beat a park. Why not make contact today?
its not how big my house is, it is that i have a child and our house is hardly big enough for us never mind 2 adults and 3 kids. And believe me i’d offer if I could. As would you i’m sure. Also, update on this temporary accomodation has been found for the family through ICHH.
is this true? is there more to this or is this what’s become of Ireland?
I don’t believe it’s completely factual for starters. And isn’t the vast majority of Fatima local authority housing, I don’t think you’d find too many privately owned properties there.
Wise up and do your research and stop pretending this isn’t happening to make yourself feel better.
Fatima was rebuilt as a mix of privately owned and council owned and mixed ownership housing over the last 10 years. So this family may have had a mortgage on a private house or apartment.
And you also believe they got a knock on the door and turfed out onto the street too there and the n ?
You know how it works. Court orders.
Not everyone has a Daddy or siblings with money to bail them out of difficult situations.
This is what happens when a cowardly government gets though on the vulnerable.
I always have a good old chuckle when people like yourself assume that people are where they are, and think they way they do, because they got money handed to them.
Bitter much ?
I dunno. I mean on the one hand Helen says she’d give them a room if she could and then when pressed seems a little iffy on the notion.
mani, as I said, I would give them a room if I could (as in if I had a room to give them, as in IF I COULD), I have a child and wouldn’t like to see any kids, never mind 3 under the age of find sleeping rough on the streets. COP ON. keyboard warrior.
If I had a golden watermelon id give it to you Helen. But I don’t. So sorry.
“If ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ were candy and nuts then that’s what little boys are made of.”
Mani, sometimes your funny, often your not. Try not to be an assh*le.
what can we do about this? That’s not a rhetorical question.
Take the children into care and away from irresponsible parents that have them sleeping on the street unnecessarily.
You’re starting to sound dangerously socialist Jonotti. Shouldn’t we be conservative and throw them crumbs so they don’t actually starve but die slowly of neglect?
really, so they lose their home and they are irresponsible parents? would you cop on, so then not only do you lose your home but your kids are taken away. Alot of things are out of peoples controls. Losing jobs, family deaths, the list can go on mate, the family with 3 kids under 5 should not be homeless end of.
wow. troll level platinum.
Maybe you could give them one of your international caps to make them feel better?
You can put your hand down Don, most people stopped high fiving about that later that same afternoon.
No, this is never not funny
I’m even embarrassed for you with that post.
It wounds!!!
Says Jonotti, buoyed up by Djiz.
Oh no, the big bad banks must have come in the nailer of the night without notice and pulled this family from their beds onto the streets. This must have been a bolt out of the blue to them and that explains why the have made no alternative living arrangements.
There’s a lightning bolt waiting on us all at some point. Touch more humility might not go astray in your case.
+1, unfortunately
Jonotti I think you need thejournal.ie
I, for one, fear this night nailer and hope that the gardai can put an end to him and his hammer of terror.
At this point I’m unsure if you genuinely believe the stuff you post on here, or are just doing it to get a rise.
Either way, it says plenty about you.
Is he our very own Katie Hopkins?
My posts are nearly always genuine. I cannot stand these one sided sob stories that are heavily politicised. All of the recent big stories of this ilk have been completely discredited.
There were kids sleeping in a park. The rights and wrongs of politicised argument go out the window at that point irrespective
I don’t believe that anybody slept in a park. They want us to accept this as fact and I’m not willing to do so.
Katie says this too.
Is Jonotti Katie?!!
I feel I should comment on the number of overtly racist comments on that facebook post too. But then, why am I surprised?
Its pretty depressing alright.
I have a suspicion the poor family may not be Irish in any case. Where then does that leave the “look after our own” crowd?
Oh, that’ll set the comments on fire if that turns out to be true…. “comin’ over here” ….taken out mortgages they can’t pay, blah, blah……
Romanian apparently.
Just had a look….. *shudders*… i’ll stay here in the warm, sarky but cosy, sniping comment section of BS
Had a look there too. Just want to say you’re all great. I appreciate that now.
im sure there is a back story to this that has been conveniently left out by this post.
Is that what happens when wages and pensions eat up budgets in the Governemnt sector, leaving no money to actually provide services?
All this union talk about ‘pay restoration’ in the public sector makes me very uncomfortable when I read stories like this…
And no Im not bashing PS, this is something that should be discussed…
Ever generation since the foundation of this state have said the very same thing. It will never change.
*Every*
Those terrible banks ! Shocking stuff.
Why didn’t the banks give them some warning that not repaying their loan might result in this or not even arrange them a place with friends or families to stay, disgraceful banks, they surely should all be shut down, their employees sacked and premises turned into shelters !
“they surely should all be shut down, their employees sacked and premises turned into shelters”
Not a bad idea actually :-)
You belong over in the journal comments section.
Assuming that they are the people who had a mortgage out on the property. There are a lot of people are in rented accommodation paying their rent but the landlords are not paying the mortgage, they have no control on that and generally don’t fine out until it is too late.
It says they were kicked out by a bank
Bank could have repossessed
So, bank initiates repossession proceedings against landlord. He/she continues to keep the rental income and doesn’t inform the tenants. The first the tenant knows is when he/she’s evicted.
Good old Ireland, unemployment on the rise, nationl debt on the rise, evictions on the rise but don’t worry because Edna wants to hang around for another 8 years!!
Unemployment and national debt have been coming down for the last few years.
Read the posting , it says the banks evicted them.
Not sure I buy much of this story. Reminds me of the one about that woman who moved into her car with her kids.
Also, it should be a crime to say “there” instead of “their” more than once in a paragraph.
The commune in Bolt Hostel is teh way forward
Would it be worth the govts while giving tax relief to people who give a room for free to people whom are homeless, a temporary measure coming into winter to get people off the streets?
Is Jonotti hated more than me?
Even more than ABM
I’m not sure hated is the right word… but yes
Excellent.
Jonotti is witty and engaging.
Have you ever seen ‘One Man and His Dog’?
We are the sheep and we
secretlyenjoy it.Jonotti lives in a pineapple under the sea
For all those white Irish comfortable types sneering at the misfortune of a family living in a city centre park:
It doesn’t really matter how they got to that point. The problem here is that there is no emergency accommodation for them.
You should be concerned that this is happening in your city, a modern European capital.
Cheerleading cuts in social welfare, health services, repossession of homes by banks, etc all lead to situations like this where the least well off or those caught in circumstances beyond any reasonable control are left out to dry by the state.
Good citizens show compassion for others during difficult times. If you don’t, you don’t deserve to have compassion shown to you by anyone, including your own family.
Thanks Mr. T , was about to make the same point!
I think a lot of people do have sympathy for the family but this article is so horribly written, it has all the hallmarks of clickbait and when your average Joe reads it, it leaves them confused about who to be angry at!
Some of these stories are a bit fishy, during the council credit card crisis last week one anecdotal story was repeated by the council on many radio stations. A family with two small children, came to them seeking emergency accommodation, because the card was maxed they couldn’t get a hotel room or equivelant for them anywhere and the family had to sleep in some industrial unit. They said the family had “lost their home” because their landlord sold the house. They would have had at least 3 months notice possibly more before they had to vacate their home and what about the rent money they would have had to have to pay the next months rent? It’s sad state of affairs that a family in this country wouldn’t have friends or relatives they couldn’t go to even short term, even parents of school friends to take the kids. But sure why would you when you can roll down to the council and demand a hotel room. I do realise that this can be the case, my mother used to work in the Women’s Refuge in Rathmines and would often take in mothers and their children into our house when the shelter was full. But these here say stories without facts like the one above don’t help anyone’s cause and only divides people. I think we’d all be better off knowing the full facts of the situation. when you have these “woman forced to live with family in car” stories come out and that the woman was taking the p1ss it only seeks to lessen the severity of other peoples situations.
Bort, why would they get 3 months notice? Landlord stops paying mortgage, bank official turn up and evict tenants with no notice.
It’s happening in Ireland every day.
In any event, the only option for a homeless family is a wait ing list for a hotel room or the kindness of friends or family. This is no way for a society to function.
It doesn’t just happen like that everyday. A notice of intention to repossess is posted to the door of the house months in advance.
A family we know found themselves in such a situation, was told the landlord wasn’t paying the mortgage and they have X amount of time left in the house. No drama, they went looking elsewhere and found one just around the corner from where they were previously.
Even if this happens they would have been paying rent so you would think they still had some money to spend on temporary accommodation?
Not everyone has savings.
Just covered on RTE News at 1.
I’m never one to wish ill on anyone. However in this case I make an exceptioon, & I genuinely hope that if a period of darkness/ despair/ helplessness come the direction of you Jonotti, or you Mister Mister, that you receive no more than the same levels of compassion that you display here, not just now, but all too often.
You’d love that wouldn’t you. To see me on the scrap heap begging for help. I will never need any of help or have some damascene conversion. My limited humanity has taken me near the top and I’m only heading upwards. Actually that’s not true. I have some humanity but it’s rational cynicism that has made me.
This story stinks buy rather than abuse me why not reach out and give this family a few grand yourself.
You’re the one with problems if you think I wish ill of anyone.
I’m just questioning what the full facts are. You should try it sometime.
I didn’t say you wish ill of anyone. I said that I hope in your time of need you get the same amount of compassion that you seem to display here. If you think you’re showing a fair amount of compassion, well then you shouldn’t have a problem.
Joe Duffy now interviewing a woman with a 15yr old who slept in Phoenix Park.
She was probably having a nice summer camp with her son. Illegally so but not the biggest crime in the world spending quality time with your teenager.