A Dubliner writes:
There’s only 6 days left before planning permission elapses for Dart Underground, the only feasible project capable of transforming the Capital. The Minister looks near certain to blow the money on an inadequate tram service to [near] the airport. What kind of form does one need to fill in to arrange for interested users of the City to descend on the Dáil after work on Monday? 5:00-6:30pm should make the news and the point…
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“What kind of forms does one need to fill in to arrange for interested users of the City to descend on the Dáil”
Don’t be so compliant. Just turn up and shout.
True. Unfortunately a cohort will label you as a criminal and a malcontent. They will ask why you aren’t at work like everyone else. Then a highly paid and powerful politician will see you charged for false imprisonment.
Dublin will soon struggle to move its population around on its already-inadequate bus service and the completed Luas just won’t be enough. Having spent millions on this and Metro North, we’re about to make all that investment utterly pointless.
And yet despite costing multiples of the cost of the voting machines, there won’t be nearly as much outcry.
Form 478-A, fill it out in triplicate and have it on my desk first thing Monday morning. I’ll get Margaret from accounts to rush it throught for you.
You might get some support here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055630770&page=176
There needs to be a Dublin party – our island’s only real city is being bled dry to prop up rural suburbia countrywide. None of the leaders of the four biggest parties is a Dublin TD & none of the parties (save perhaps the Greens) give much indication that they are thinking about Dublin with their policies.
Couldn’t agree more Cluster.
Dublin needs to ring fence all of it’s tax income to be kept in Dublin. No more propping up uneconomical rural rail, airports and uneconomical part time farms.
€1million spent to encourage irish people to eat praties? Really?
Most Irish potatoes come from North Dublin.
“None of the leaders of the four biggest parties is a Dublin TD”
You do realise that Joan Buron, Tanaiste is a TD for Dublin West and is leader of the second largest Dail party?
Key word here is ‘leader’
I’d guess Joan Buron is from Clare.
What a stupid ill informed article. “The Minister looks near certain to blow the money on an inadequate tram service to [near] the airport.”
How is this money wasted? The dart underground will provide rail service to areas that already have rail service.
What needs to be built is Metros North and West, not an expensive underground DART line that will run paralled to existing DARt lines.
It’s not an article though, is it? It is the anonymous scribblings, typos included.
Is stupid though.
Darty Underground does not run parallel to existing DART lines, you spoofer.
But it runs parallel to an existing rail line already connecting Connolly and Hueston.
“not an expensive underground DART line that will run paralled to existing DARt lines.”
It connects two main stations (Heuston and Pearse). It doesn’t run parallel. And it’s not instead of anything to the Airport.
there is some indication they may choose a on street luas type light rail to Dublin Airport/Swords rather then a seperated faster Metro North.
DART Underground and Metro North are critical pieces of infrastructure if Dublin wants to stay a relevant city in a fast moving world.
Just borrow the friggin cash and build them. Noonan was boasting the other day our national debt had fallen from 125% to 99% of GDP.
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While the Dart underground is a good city center plan it never really addressed a connection to the airport aside from it’s link to the Dublin – Belfast line at East wall. This then would require a further project to connect Clongriffin station to the Airport. It is this connection should be a priority given that 21 million passengers use the airport every year. A meandering tram line from the city will not give the operating flexibility that the reconstruction of the existing heavy rail infrastructure can deliver. Even if the Dart underground is deferred or scrapped a reconstruction of the existing heavy rail to provide access to the airport could deliver access to Belfast, Dundalk, Drogheda, the City Centre, Bray, Wexford, the West and also via the Phoenix park tunnel – the south at a much more attractive cost.
they should develop baldonnel as a civilian airport and divert traffic away from the existing airport.
Planning in Ireland is a joke. You only need to go to Cork to see some planning tragedy. Dublin is also appalling. Monkeys in permanent employment working on plans.
I don’t understand why the planners don’t give refusals for poor design quality more often.
Some of the lazy, design-free crap built by commercial architects/developers could & would easily be bettered if they only bothered their collective, planning ar$es
The new Luas line is running alongside the train line from Connolly to Broombridge … ALONGSIDE!
The Luas and main line rail have different purposes.
Think.
Then speak.
“The Luas and main line rail have different purposes.”
One carries passengers and the other carries passengers.
Jambon, it will only runs alongside from Broombridge to what was Liffey Junction, about a mile or so, then it diverges using the the old railway alignment down to Broadstone and then down to O Connell street to connect with the other lines.
The rail line runs alongside the canal until Mullingar. ALONGSIDE! When we could have horses pulling barges!
The railway bought the canal company as a cheap route west, hence the reason…
Why is DART underground the only feasible option?
Would an elevated system not be cheaper than underground, but less disruptive than a tram?
monorail, monorail, MONORAIL!
I hear those things are awfully loud.
MONORAIL!!
Mono…d’oh!
It’s a CIE vanity project. They mothballed the phoenix park tunnel, that tells you a lot. We need a metro system that gets cars off the road, not trains off the loop line.