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Stop Out-Of-Control Drinking campaign chairperson Fergus Finlay

Some do-gooders said they’ll refuse,
To try to ban adverts for booze,
At matches and shows,
As they all suppose,
That one can’t let the GAA lose.

John Moynes

(RTÉ)

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26 thoughts on “A Limerick A Day

  1. John

    Man I love PR. Throw some cash to fund a group and get them to do research at arms length. Deny any impropriety. Shuffle through a few inconvenient questions but in the main, most people won’t know the link or the open questions. And hey ho a legitimate, independent voice is born.

    Well done Diageo

  2. On The Buses

    Diageo reinforcing the belief that drink is only a problem when it is ‘out of control’.

    I have been sober for 6 moths after ten years of ‘normal’ drinking.

    Just because I happened to be good company when drinking and not passing/blacking out or becoming violent, people have told me that in fact did not have a problem. I am regularly told that I should just drink moderately or cut back. This is the attitude that diageo are paying money out to make people think.

    I have been the happiest and most productive since I gave up drinking. I highly suggest anyone to give it a try for a week or a month and objectively think about how they are feeling without consuming alcohol.

    I await the barrage of comments calling me a tee-totalling whimp. Work away.

    1. Anomanomanom

      No insults or negative comments but iv known real problem drinkers and how you described your self is a normal social drinker. If you can just stop for 6 months without any problems then you had no drinking problem.

      1. On The Buses

        This is exactly the point I was making. Other people saying that someone who quit drinking didn’t actually have a problem from what they know on the surface. I think its a defence mechanism which allows others to deny their own drinking habits.

        While socially I was seen to be gregarious and fun to be around whilst drinking, I was going through major debilitating bouts of depression and anxiety. I would drink alone and not be able to socialize without drinking.

        I only say this so you can be assured that I did have a drinking problem. It just wasn’t the Irish idea of a drinking problem.

        Most people in this country think the only type of problem drinker is someone who has a bottle of vodka before lunch, and that is the bar. Anything below that is seemingly fine.

        This country has a major major physical and mental health problem with alcohol.

        It is a terrible drug.

        1. Lan

          If alcohol was causing you anxiety and depression then yes you were a problem drinker regardless of level. I gave up drinking myself despite not being anything like a problem drinker

          However I dont think you can apply your situation to all other drinkers. Lots of people (thankfully) do not suffer ill effects after moderate drinking.

          That said anyone who thinks its healthy to go out and get polatic drunk or that our general attitude to alcohol is essential is probably born of a huge number people with underlying problems within society (further strengthened by the rates of depression and suicide in society)

          1. smellyer

            I don’t think everyone has the same problems as me or the exact same personality.

            I do think for most people that drinking is such a part of life that people do not think about why they do it. I encourage everyone to be mindful of why they drink and honest with themselves.

          2. Lan

            I can understand that but man, I think we might be taking this self-examination thing a bit far.

            Most genuinely happy people or at least content people I’ve met are not obsessively overanalyzing their own behavior. I say this as someone who does that way too much. Focusing our every flaw even when its clearly not impeding someone’s life is a path to being neurotic not really happiness.

            The same issue comes up when people become obsessed with “healthy” eating and develop obsessions with keeping their diet clean. Even though yes objectively its better to eat healthier foods obsessing about never having a chinese or chocolate bar develops into a near (and in some cases full blown) eating disorder

          3. On The Buses

            I don’t think people taking time to thinking honestly about their drinking could ever be called an unhealthy self examination.

            and for people who are obsessive (not saying that you or I are) replacing an unhealthy behaiviour with a healthy cant be a bad thing.

          4. Lan

            No of course not but I dunno if its helpful to examine everything that doesnt seem to be an issue. Again theres a difference between a problem drinker sitting down and doing some self-reflection and someone that has no negative effects from their moderate drinking.

            Not if its born from guilt no. If you feel guilty for your drinking (as if you’re harming yourself or being less than perfect) when no-one around you sees anything wrong then the motivating factor for that behaviour is guilt. Guilt is one of the major driving factor of all anxiety disorders

        2. ahjayzis

          “I would drink alone and not be able to socialize without drinking.”

          Is that not an Irish problem as opposed to a drinking problem?

    2. Janet, I ate my avatar

      Well done Sir/Madame
      I switched two months ago to a no school night policy , so basically a drink on Saterday only in a country where you can pretty much start drinking at breakfast without raising an eyebrow. Even if I’m good company too and hold it together you are right it can easily become a problem, definitely more productive and posative, shaved a minute of my kmph run and sleeping better.
      An eye opener to the friends who try to undermine your efforts and those who get behind you and even get on board. The hardest part is social pressure to just have one etc.
      I toast you with a Perrier !

      1. On The Buses

        Thank you very much!

        A watery toast to you too.

        The social pressure is immense, and the denial within my own family is even rife.

        At a family occasion I was offered a glass of champagne by my father last week whom with I regularly discuss my sobriety. He said he didn’t want me to feel left out and I should feel free to start drinking again whenever I felt able.

        1. Janet, I ate my avatar

          Yep my favourite line is when I get accused of turning into a health nut lol. What did you do with Janet etc …treat yourself ( that one really pushes my buttons ) The treat is getting to say no thanks.
          I’m 37 lads the party can’t go on for ever and I reckon the more energised me is better craic anyway.

          1. On The Buses

            There are many ‘treats’ as well as being able to say ‘no thanks’. No hangovers, not spending money, being able to drive home.

            Keep it up!

  3. Anomanomanom

    I hate this term problem drinker. I personally drink every Friday and Saturday. I love a few cans of tuborg( I know it’s cheap but love the taste) after work. Numerous times iv heard “why don’t you not drink for a while”, I like drinking iv no problem, I do something I like in moderation. Most people drink in moderation.

    1. Janet, I ate my avatar

      It’s a touchy subject and yep I’d say if it’s a few at the weekend no bother. You might be surprised what an invisible crutch it can be to some people and even if they are not rolling around locked it can have a negative impact on relationships, work and even mild depression. That qualifies as a problem in my book.

  4. Just sayin'

    The GAA? I think you’ll find that rugby is just as if not more bound to alcohol sponsorship than GAA

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