Dear Enda, will these extra school places be available to all or just kids who pretend they’ve been baptised? pic.twitter.com/iAWuKnY56O
— Andy McGeady (@andymcgeady) September 30, 2015
Hmmm.
Anyone?
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One is either baptised or not, surely?
My daughter isn’t baptised. And I won’t be doing it any time soon. I recently mentioned it to an aunt and she was really surprised. Apparently you should just do it to give your child the best options for school.
I would call this pretend baptism, maybe? To baptise a child in a religion which you don’t believe in, which you don’t expect your child to believe in, all for the sake of a primary school?
A primary school exclusively funded by taxes from the exchequer of something that calls itself a republic.
Yep, a disgrace really.
A country full of a la carte christians.
Utter BS.
Everyone has the right to be al a cart whatever they want to be.
Indeed they do.
Still hypocritical though
How so bingo?
Thanks meadowlark. I see that you mean.
Pretty few new catholic schools are getting approved thankfully. Will probably still be some
yes, but I think the key concern is that many (most?) of these new places will be in existing schools, most of which are Catholic.
Depends on the area – my area got a new ETNS before the catholic schools were allowed expand. Lots of constrained sites etc ensure it’ll be new builds
But if there was going to be a school building programme on that scale (minimum of 43 new secondary schools, probably more, to accommodate 43,000 kids), I think Enda would have taken the chance to mention it yesterday, no?
and if these additional places are in existing schools, I would imagine that, just as with the last school buildings programme, these extensions will be gifted to the church (or the trusts that hold the buildings). So the state pays, say €100k for an extension to a school, which increases the value of the building and at some later point if the State seeks ownership of the school (in part settlement of the child abuse bill or because they decide to provide education directly) they will have to pay the full value of the building, including the extension they paid for.
The fact that a child can be refused because some nut-job didn’t splash some water on them and utter some magic words is fupping laughable!!
High Elder – Your child cannot be admitted to the chamber of truth until you visit the local warlock and have them bound to the beliefs of the invisible all knowing entity call GabboGabboNobNob .
Parent – Must I?
High elder – YES! Or you must go elsewhere.
Parent – OK.
The “comedy” aside, entry requirements based on shared ethos or participation is not that strange.
Shared religion, newsjustin.
It’s about a shared religion.
And that’s abhorrent, it’s kids attending publically funded institutions we’re talking about.
Ah yeah, the ethos that 4 year olds totally share, that is definitely not foisted on them by parents who are mostly doing it to ensure they get an education.
It’s kids attending schools according to their parent’s wishes. Something I support for everyone (and the constitution does too).
It’s a sad form of sectarianism and discrimination by the state and nothing more.
this is more about parents having no choice but to lie about their religious beliefs in order to access what is supposed to be a fundamental right to education for their children.
You’re awful intolerant of non-catholics Justin. Weren’t you telling eveyone that they had to tolerate all dissenting opinons before the marraige equality referendum?
if you dont want your kids going to a catholic school then send them somewhere else. Dont expect the school to change just for you!
Ugh…
It’s a 100% fully PUBLICALLY funded school which happens to be managed by catholics. Atheists, muslims, jews and jedi all pay exactly the same as the catholics in the area towards it’s upkeep.
And I love how in my local area three of the four publicly funded schools are able to pick and choose their pupils based on a religion
It’s also owned by catholics. And there are generally local contributions to it’s upkeep. I know, I recently gave a donation (as did many others) to my parish school for extra works – not because I had kids there, but because I was a member of the RC parish.
Utter Bull, I frequently contribute to the local school, I am not a cathoilic I just happen to live in the parish- this is not church money.
Tax Payer pays for the school here – The Government of the Vatican State and it’s agents in Ireland should not have a role in how admissions are made. Tax payer funded, so children of tax payers are entitled to a school place.
Good luck getting them in
I have to make this choice soon. The fact that I have to make it at all disgusts me.