Work Must Pay, Eh?

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Lucinda Creighton

Further to Renua leader Lucinda Creighton’s comments this morning…

Graywingfield tweetz:

“Renua Ireland says work must pay, except if you work for Lucinda Creighton.”

From Ms Creighton’s website, posted last Thursday, October 1:

“Are you a bright, motivated and energetic self-starter with an interest in politics and public affairs? I am seeking an intern to work in my office in Leinster House, contributing to parliamentary, constituency and political projects and assisting in the day-to-day running of my office… The position is unpaid and will last for an initial duration of three months, starting immediately.”

Join our team! (Lucinda Creighton)

Previously: ‘There Will Be Incentives For People To Actually Take Pay Rises’

Mark Stedman (Rollingnews.ie)

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44 thoughts on “Work Must Pay, Eh?

  1. Fergus the magic postman

    Ha! You could not make it up. Do these people have any kind of thought process at all?

  2. Padi

    Seriously get over yourselves, I did a couple of upaid internships during school and then college, they hugely stood to me and helped me get my first paid job.

    People with drive and the working mindset will do what it takes, moaners however will just moan.

    1. Fergus the magic postman

      Oh get stuffed. It’s a clear contradiction to what she claims to be pushing for at the minute.

      1. Nessy

        If you’re pushing the line “work must pay” and then advertising for an unpaid intern: You’re clearly a hypocritical bottomh*le –
        Lucinda is a walking contradiction. Can’t wait to see her and Renua crash and burn in the election

        1. Neilo

          Everyone’s aware that unpaid internships are part of building a CV in an area of interest, I take it? What’s the alternative proposal – 600 yoyo a day and all the Hayek you can eat?

          1. Fergus the magic postman

            Ignoring the fact that you’re missing the point entirely, an alternative to an unpaid internships is a paid internship. You’re welcome.

        2. classter

          She is not genuinely pushing the line that ‘work must pay’, she is pushing the idea that ‘welfare must not pay’.

          She makes perfect sense within a right-wing American paradigm & thus there is nothing inconsistent about this whatsoever, however contemptible she may be.

          1. Andy

            So welfare should pay? So its an acceptable alternative to actually working?

            Wish someone told me that a decade ago!

    2. DCG

      Padi unpaid work is only possible for someone who doesn’t need the payment, ie are supported from elsewhere. I’ve seen many friends have to turn down offers of internships which would have stood to them hugely because they couldn’t afford to work unpaid. It’s the new system of screwing the less well off

      1. gallantman

        Massive hypocrisy. Indirectly discriminates against certain classes. If you had to pay rent in Dublin, not be financially supported by your folks say, how could you take this or any internship??

      2. Neilo

        Paid internships, eh? Why not pay Transition Year kids for their placements while we’re at it. 60 years ago, many trades charged apprentices for the privilege of acquiring skills – but thankfully, that is no longer the case. 13 weeks of living on baked beans is not the worst sacrifice imaginable to develop a skill set in your preferred area although I agree with Rob_G that unpaid internships are maybe pushing less well-off youngsters out of contention.

        1. Mr. T.

          This cannot be compared to a transition year placement. And by the way, most decent companies give those students a few quid. It’s the companies with most money who don’t give them anything.

          1. Fergus the magic postman

            Neilo, for what effect were you exaggerating? In any case, you’re still completely missing the point.

    3. george

      All jobs should be paid. We shouldn’t need unpaid jobs to have a chance to work for a living.

      1. Neilo

        @Fergus The Magic Postman – I wasn’t aware that I’d transgressed unwritten laws of debate laid down by the Head Buck Cat Of Unmissed Points (Broadsheet Division). I don’t agree with unpaid jobs in the totality of the economic sphere, but in certain rare cases I fail to see any great harm. Internships in political parties being such a case. YMMV and all that.

    4. Rob_G

      You are fortunate that your parents were able to support you during this period, Padi. However, some families would not be able to afford to support their children this way (particularly if they are from outside Dublin).

      The rise of unpaid internships in many industries is ensuring that white-collar jobs will remain the preserve of the middle-class.

  3. perricrisptayto

    Seriously get over yourselves, I did a couple of upaid internships during school and then college, they hugely stood to me and helped me get my first paid job.

    Well done you, nevertheless that does’nt make it any less obvious that Ms Creighton is talking out of both sides of her arse.

  4. Anthony Finucane

    “Please note that the position cannot be made permanent, but may be extended in duration. The successful candidate will also be expected to provide their own laptop.”

    Extended in duration… still without pay. Please also bring all your own pen.

  5. Mr. T.

    Entitled spoilt brats are raised to believe others should serve their wants.

    She’s certainly of the Fine Gael stable of self interest at the expense of others.

    1. Neilo

      It seems weird to me that Fine Gael are bought-in completely to levels of social provision that are generous by most metrics and yet are still viewed as some kind of hardcore, right-wing party when they’re much more in the Christian Democrat tradition. This isn’t directed at you, Mr. T, I just find it ticklish.

  6. sendog

    upaid internships and jobbrdige et al are another means to reduce the minimum wage.

    Interesting to note just how quickly the narrative that jobbridge generated. That working for free or nothing is now the new normal. Readers should note the demographic who pushed this. Largely 40+ middle class and above. The same cohert who got us into this mess with their greed and im alright jack attitude.
    This very same cohert peddled the mantra that the younger generations where also entitled brats.

    I recommed that all people below the age of 30 should emigrate just like i intend too. I refuse to pay for the mess others created. And i certainly wont be subsidising their lucrative lifestyles and entitled attitudes with increased taxes in return for mimimal services.

    The hyprocrasy in Ireland is astounding and clearly indicative of our voting record.

  7. diddy

    Itll be interesting to see how many people out there are dewey eyed for the PD’s…. they are reincarnated!!!

  8. bisted

    …but sure isn’t that the kind of thing you say when your are another flavour of grasping politician coming up to an election…

  9. Junkface

    Internships should be banned. Its America’s modern take on Slavery. Now its everywhere.

    Apprenticeships should be encouraged and are a benefit to society, at least they are paid a livable wage while they learn a career.

    Ban Internships!!

    1. Neilo

      Manumission and sweated, brutal labour VS a short spell of unpaid work experience. You’re right. They’re exactly the same! I agree with you totally about apprenticeships – Ireland is falling badly behind the international pace in trades.

  10. Junkface

    Renua are a joke. Does anyone really want another right wing political party in poxy Ireland?

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