Pour Encourager Les Autres



A gendarme from Cherbourg, France with a banner brought in by irish climate change activists

Climate change pre-crimes?

Mais oui.

The activists, ranging in age from 20 to 72, are all involved in the group Stop Climate Chaos, an umbrella group comprised of 28 environmental groups including Friends of the Earth, Trócaire, An Taisce, Concern and Christian Aid.

An officer with the French border police in Cherbourg told The Irish Times the group had been stopped under the state-of-emergency legislation which currently banned demonstrations in France.

Speaking before their bus had been let through, the officer said it was expected the group would be returned to Ireland on Thursday evening as they were considered “likely to trouble public order in France”.

Asked how they knew about the group, the officer replied: “We were advised by the Irish authorities.”

The border police later confirmed the position had changed and the bus was being allowed to proceed but declined to comment on the reason why.

Threat to deport Irish climate activists entering France lifted (Harry McGee, irish Times)

Mark Malone writes:

So Irish authorities forewarned French police about visiting climate change campaigners heading to COP21. Pretty much puts the question of political policing to bed.

Top pic: William Hederman

48 thoughts on “Pour Encourager Les Autres

  1. Paps

    Demonstrations currently banned in France, Irish Authorities learn of people going over with the sole purpose to demonstrate in France…. did you want them to keep the mouth shut?

    1. Neilo

      No, Mark, it puts the question of security co-operation to bed. France has temporarily banned demonstrations and Ireland, being a good neighbour, let them know there were protesters on the way. Blah blah, police state/blueshirts/worse than the SS etc.

          1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            @ Paps;
            The ‘at threat’ idea is farcical, as pointed out by pendaticduck.

            Your use of the words ‘were at / a threat’ is perplexing.
            -That’s not English, but if it’s not your first language I understand.

            -Surely you weren’t implying that they were a threat to anyone?
            Please clarify.

          2. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            The event was sanctioned by French Police*.

            *‘Gendarmes’ is what they call them
            A lovely bunch of lads.

    1. The People's Hero

      Concern is a secular, non-denominational organisation…. no God there….

      You silly goose, you…

      1. bisted

        …secular…seriously.. the founding fathers finucaine would have begged to differ. The only thing non-denominational about them is that they will accept any denomination.

        1. The People's Hero

          I’ll see your Finucanes as founding fathers with the O’Loughlin Kennedys who actually founded the organisation…. 45 years ago. All aid was routed through missionaries and the most excellent Jack and Aengus Finucane were of course priests where involved early on, In the humanitarian space they’re legacy is legendary.

          But then we have uneducated misanthropes like you who come along with little knowledge and lots bile to attempt to sully and cheapen their work and good name…

          Since the 80s, Concern adopted a secular status and have been that way ever since. Religion is not part in any way shape or form in their work. But let’s not let that get in the way of a good ignorance filled rant….., eh?

          Silly goose? Fuppin’ moron, is more apt.

  2. AlisonT

    Very irresponsible to go to France demonstrating at the moment. The security forces are stretched and there is good reason for the state of emergency.

    1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

      They wanted to attend a protest that was already sanctioned by the police.
      And they were the only delegation from anywhere who got stopped on entry to the country.

          1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            I read it at the bottom of a link that has since been removed from this post.
            I’m pretty sure it was an Irish Times post, but I can’t find it again.
            It featured the same photo.

            Also, it was one of the members of the delegation who said they were the only ones stopped, which she had deduced from talking to her ‘colleagues’.
            It was the Irish Times who said the protest was sanctioned by the French Police.

          2. meadowlark

            Thanks for that badatmemes. I just saw your reply now. I would have been interested in reading that article. A pity, I have to say. But thanks for answering :)

          3. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            No bother.
            I’m sorry I’m not better at remembering names and stuff.

            I believe there were a few scuffles at the protest, causing certain ‘News’ outlets to change tact for the sake of sensationalism.
            Hippies don’t buy newspapers, if you know what I’m sayin’.

          4. meadowlark

            Hardly a surprise there. Sure they change their agenda to suit the times. It’s frustrating. ‘Facts’ clash from publication to publication. There’s inaccuracies everywhere, information left out to suit the angle of the story. And articles onlone are charged and removed. Frustrating.

      1. Deluded

        Hi sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq and meadowlark,
        I noted a reference to misinformation earlier… there were clashes between climate protesters and police in Paris on Nov 29th;
        reuters.com reported that scores were arrested, independent.ie reported 100 and bloomberg.com reported hundreds.

        The link sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq refers to is still there: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/threat-to-deport-irish-climate-activists-entering-france-lifted-1.2462046
        … which includes the comment that they were the only group stopped. However the Independent notes that this group “included Grace O’Sullivan, who was on board Greenpeace’s Rainbow Warrior in July 1985 when it was bombed by the French secret service* amid protests about nuclear testing underway French Polynesia.”
        *Opération Satanique

        The UN voted last year to designate Greenpeace as a terrorist organisation, apparently in response to “changes made to the Nazca Lines area” in Peru. (The made a huge climate change protest message)

  3. Bonzor

    What?! A French border guard told a probably-irate bus load of people that it was the Irish who had reported them? It must be true then!

    Get a grip. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

  4. John M

    Excellent news: anything that puts a halt to the non-elected group of egotists that is An Taisce can only be A Good Thing.

    1. Nigel

      It must be so annoying. If only they’d listened to people like An Taisce, the flooding might not be quite so bad, eh? Less overgrazing, less runoff, more bogland to soak it up, that kind of thing. Galling, it must be.

      1. Neilo

        An Taisce? The shakings of the Ascendancy bag lecturing their former tenants on how to keep their cottages just so?. No thanks.

        1. Nigel

          And the floods keep flooding. I mean, it wasn’t just An Taisce saying these things but they were ignored as lectures from egoists and shakings and whatever and now we keep reaping the floods.

          1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            The people who live at the top of the hill will always have a condescending and unhelpful comment to make.
            You should be as smart as them.
            Pay them no attention.

            Just rob their boat.
            Plain sailing, forever.
            Fupp them.

          2. Nigel

            It’s not the comments of the people on top of the hill, it’s the overgrazing, woodland clearance and peat removal in the hills. They’re on top of the hill, they don’t need boats. Apparently it’s worse to be condescended to than to have a biblical flood wash away everything you own.

          3. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            Sorry Nigel.
            I live on a hill.
            I came here during a time when it was cheap to live on a hill, because a lot of people don’t like going up and down hills.
            It wasn’t foresight. I’m here because I was poor.
            I don’t do schadenfreude*, but I live on a hill.
            In Jobstown, Tallaght.

            *Maybe I do, I dunno. If I do I don’t mean to.

  5. Tish Mahorey

    Anyone excusing the Irish actions in this instance are Fine Gaelers. Nobody else would defend misuse of an anti-terrorist law.

    1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

      Don’t do that.

      Calm the fupp down.
      Learn how to stop reading. It’s easy.
      Don’t read my book about it.

      Anyway, sure we both know know you aren’t serious.

          1. sǝɯǝɯʇɐpɐq

            You know know nkow it baybee (hic)

            There’s an awful lot of people commenting.
            Is is daytime?

          2. scottser

            don’t think about what time it is, just go outside right now in what you’re wearing and delight in the universe’s answer.

  6. DubLoony

    What exactly were the French told? Group of climate protesters going over, they’re a grand bunch or nasty Trocaire over there to – do what, exactly?

    The French are nervous right now, they’ve had a massacre and right now there are world leaders all gathered for COP21 talks on climate change. If I were French I’d want to know who was heading my way and what the story was with them.

  7. ReproBertie

    Asked how they knew about the group, the officer replied: “We were advised by the Irish authorities.”

    So the Irish authorities rang the French and asked Pierre and his mates to keep an eye on the group as they were aware of the state of emergency and wanted to keep the Irish citizens safe.

    Somehow I don’t think they were warning them about a gang of anti-establishment nutters in Trocaire.

    I’m wearing a t-shirt today but if I was wearing a shirt it would probably be white with a nice check pattern.

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